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	<title>Comments on: World&#8217;s First Wave Farm Opens</title>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/01/worlds-first-wave-farm-opens/#comment-1047549</link>
		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's some concerns on the durability of the system in the harsh environment compared to other solutions like the Searev sealed-pod program. It's still a wonderful idea and seeing it coming reality is a ray of hope for my utility bill in 2040.

Waves are interesting as well as tides/currents : check out Seagen in UK or Verdant Power's turbines in NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s some concerns on the durability of the system in the harsh environment compared to other solutions like the Searev sealed-pod program. It&#8217;s still a wonderful idea and seeing it coming reality is a ray of hope for my utility bill in 2040.</p>
<p>Waves are interesting as well as tides/currents : check out Seagen in UK or Verdant Power&#8217;s turbines in NY.</p>
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		<title>By: K!P</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/01/worlds-first-wave-farm-opens/#comment-1046649</link>
		<dc:creator>K!P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im by no means a expert, but i think the energy taken from the air/sea is being put back into the sytem when we use it, hot air currents escaping buildings for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im by no means a expert, but i think the energy taken from the air/sea is being put back into the sytem when we use it, hot air currents escaping buildings for example.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/01/worlds-first-wave-farm-opens/#comment-1046455</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no physicist, but I have always wondered about many of these carbon-free energy systems. Particularly in the example of wave and wind farms, but solar may apply as well. The very process they employ simply converts one form of energy to the other, right? As such, won't we see cooling conditions in the ocean (for wave farms) and atmosphere (for wind farms)?  This cooling isn't the same as 'not producing carbon' but more from moving the energy from one system and into another.

Since it takes energy to move these various generators, won't the waves and wind which pass them be perhaps colder and slower?

If someone could explain this to me I would greatly appreciate it. ^___^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no physicist, but I have always wondered about many of these carbon-free energy systems. Particularly in the example of wave and wind farms, but solar may apply as well. The very process they employ simply converts one form of energy to the other, right? As such, won&#8217;t we see cooling conditions in the ocean (for wave farms) and atmosphere (for wind farms)?  This cooling isn&#8217;t the same as &#8216;not producing carbon&#8217; but more from moving the energy from one system and into another.</p>
<p>Since it takes energy to move these various generators, won&#8217;t the waves and wind which pass them be perhaps colder and slower?</p>
<p>If someone could explain this to me I would greatly appreciate it. ^___^</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not quite correct to say that there are "no CO2 emissions".  Refining and casting 700 tonnes of carbon steel is a carbon-intensive process.

It is true that there are no carbon emissions after the initial investment, however.  I wonder what the break-even point is, relative to a conventional gas-powered or coal-powered plant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not quite correct to say that there are &#8220;no CO2 emissions&#8221;.  Refining and casting 700 tonnes of carbon steel is a carbon-intensive process.</p>
<p>It is true that there are no carbon emissions after the initial investment, however.  I wonder what the break-even point is, relative to a conventional gas-powered or coal-powered plant?</p>
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