Comments on: A True Image From the False Kiva http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:56:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: clipping path http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1875394 clipping path Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:04:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1875394 very nice picture. very nice picture.

]]> By: ehaight http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1063329 ehaight Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:47:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1063329 two things came to my mind when i saw this... 1. that's pretty amazing 2. that looks like a vagina two things came to my mind when i saw this...
1. that's pretty amazing
2. that looks like a vagina

]]> By: bill http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1052376 bill Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:37:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1052376 well man, you need more practice to photoshop, keep on man you can do it, good luck well man, you need more practice to photoshop, keep on man you can do it, good luck

]]> By: mds http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1042935 mds Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:45:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1042935 RW - Do a search for astro-photography and Milky Way. You'll find it's not only done with long exposures but stacking those pictures to isolate details. It's no less beautiful because of the technique used, but it doesn't represent how you would perceive galaxy. RW - Do a search for astro-photography and Milky Way. You'll find it's not only done with long exposures but stacking those pictures to isolate details. It's no less beautiful because of the technique used, but it doesn't represent how you would perceive galaxy.

]]> By: rw http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1042319 rw Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:07:54 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1042319 Okay all you skeptics - just do a Google search on Milky Way photography, and you will see plenty of non-streaky photos of said galaxy. After you do that, head west to the high and dry regions of the Four Corners area. The Milky Way can seem so bright sometimes that you will think it is illuminating the landscape. Not. A. Fake. Okay all you skeptics - just do a Google search on Milky Way photography, and you will see plenty of non-streaky photos of said galaxy.

After you do that, head west to the high and dry regions of the Four Corners area. The Milky Way can seem so bright sometimes that you will think it is illuminating the landscape.

Not. A. Fake.

]]> By: DOJ http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1042129 DOJ Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:08:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1042129 cool picture, but i noticed the missing star trails too. Alas I was hoping someone would have an explanation. cool picture, but i noticed the missing star trails too. Alas I was hoping someone would have an explanation.

]]> By: CheeseDuck http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041920 CheeseDuck Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:00:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041920 I'm loving this picture, even if it is fake. I'm loving this picture, even if it is fake.

]]> By: CLWTYG http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041707 CLWTYG Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:02:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041707 I'm from southeastern utah and really thought this was fairly close to how the night sky looked for everyone (minus the milky way, you can see it but it isn't that well-defined). I miss star-gazing at home terribly (and I only live 2 hours away). I'm from southeastern utah and really thought this was fairly close to how the night sky looked for everyone (minus the milky way, you can see it but it isn't that well-defined). I miss star-gazing at home terribly (and I only live 2 hours away).

]]> By: rgmb http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041372 rgmb Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:03:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041372 Fake! Yep, nice shot but has to be a composite as others noted! If you don't believe us, just check out other long exposure night sky shots on his website. :) They demonstrate the earth's rotation accurately. http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/galleries.asp?Sort=Country&Value=Canada&page=1 Fake! Yep, nice shot but has to be a composite as others noted! If you don't believe us, just check out other long exposure night sky shots on his website. :) They demonstrate the earth's rotation accurately.

http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/galleries.asp?Sort=Country&Value=Canad a&page=1

]]> By: jumping on the fake train http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041335 jumping on the fake train Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:50:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041335 this is a bad fake, long exposure of star field + earths rotation = not this this is a bad fake, long exposure of star field + earths rotation = not this

]]> By: Xopl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041331 Xopl Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:49:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041331 I'd say it is at least plausible. Go take a long exposure shot of the night sky way out in the country. The Milkyway really is there. I'd say it is at least plausible. Go take a long exposure shot of the night sky way out in the country. The Milkyway really is there.

]]> By: Alberto http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041018 Alberto Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:36:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041018 This is FAKE! Take a close look at the clipping path on the horizon. Look at it's color. The same for the sharp, shadowless opening of the cave. Not only is it FAKE, it's not even a good one. I do image manipulation for a living. Look at the "large version" - questionable at best. The color is the giveaway Sorry suckers. You have been had. FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE This is FAKE!

Take a close look at the clipping path on the horizon. Look at it's color. The same for the sharp, shadowless opening of the cave.

Not only is it FAKE, it's not even a good one. I do image manipulation for a living.

Look at the "large version" - questionable at best.

The color is the giveaway

Sorry suckers. You have been had.

FAKE FAKE FAKE
FAKE FAKE FAKE
FAKE FAKE FAKE
FAKE FAKE FAKE
FAKE FAKE FAKE

]]> By: Edward http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041015 Edward Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:33:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041015 Wally Pacholka, the photographer, has credentials and awards that are sufficient for me to judge that his description of how the photo was taken are accurate. http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/photographers_about.asp?photographer=Wally%20Pacholka Wally Pacholka, the photographer, has credentials and awards that are sufficient for me to judge that his description of how the photo was taken are accurate.

http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/photographers_about.asp?photographer=W ally%20Pacholka

]]> By: Craig Single http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1041001 Craig Single Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:27:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1041001 Definitely a fake/composite...the light on the earth doesn't jive with everything else...nice image though. www.singleexposure.com Definitely a fake/composite...the light on the earth doesn't jive with everything else...nice image though.

http://www.singleexposure.com

]]> By: Kevin http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1040851 Kevin Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:21:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1040851 I'm afraid I agree with those who call "fake", though I also love the picture. To gather enough light for that shot you would need a long exposure. However, the earth is turning, so a long exposure would simply give you star trails unless you tracked the sky -- in which case the cave would be a smear. Actually, I don't believe you can get that sky shot at all with a consumer (or possibly any) ground-based scope. It looks like a Hubble shot. I'm afraid I agree with those who call "fake", though I also love the picture.

To gather enough light for that shot you would need a long exposure. However, the earth is turning, so a long exposure would simply give you star trails unless you tracked the sky -- in which case the cave would be a smear. Actually, I don't believe you can get that sky shot at all with a consumer (or possibly any) ground-based scope. It looks like a Hubble shot.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1040686 ted Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:08:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1040686 Looks fake. Looks fake.

]]> By: tripleX http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1040387 tripleX Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:13:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1040387 Amazing picture. I installed it right away as my new desktop image. I'm a man, but I like the female symbolism: the cave, the circle, moonlight, the milkyway. Amazing picture. I installed it right away as my new desktop image.
I'm a man, but I like the female symbolism: the cave, the circle, moonlight, the milkyway.

]]> By: Tweeker http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1040120 Tweeker Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:10:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1040120 Makes me want to bust out the BB guy right now. I so enjoyed the power out. Makes me want to bust out the BB guy right now. I so enjoyed the power out.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1039933 Alex Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:52:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1039933 It's a composite, no doubt, but that doesn't take away from the beauty of the view/place/photo. It's a composite, no doubt, but that doesn't take away from the beauty of the view/place/photo.

]]> By: MrPumpernickel http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1039915 MrPumpernickel Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:40:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1039915 Nice shot, but ultimately he's a liar. "Is there any place in the world you could see a real sight like this? Yes." No, no there isn't. He said himself that it's a long duration exposure, so unless you can somehow trim your eyes into becoming a hell of a lot more light sensitive you're never going to actually see that. Nice shot, but ultimately he's a liar.

"Is there any place in the world you could see a real sight like this? Yes."

No, no there isn't. He said himself that it's a long duration exposure, so unless you can somehow trim your eyes into becoming a hell of a lot more light sensitive you're never going to actually see that.

]]> By: Ali S. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1039813 Ali S. Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:59:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1039813 @ Edward You and me both! I would kill to get an opportunity and the right kit to go out and do this kind of photography. @ Edward

You and me both! I would kill to get an opportunity and the right kit to go out and do this kind of photography.

]]> By: Dani http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1039789 Dani Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:50:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1039789 Great shot! I wonder if they have another one where they didn't light up the cave. Great shot! I wonder if they have another one where they didn't light up the cave.

]]> By: myleti http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1039788 myleti Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:49:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1039788 Wow. I took astronomy in high school and aside from the somewhat odd and creepy teacher, I enjoyed that class so much. I wish I could see things like this. This is absolutely amazing. Wow. I took astronomy in high school and aside from the somewhat odd and creepy teacher, I enjoyed that class so much. I wish I could see things like this. This is absolutely amazing.

]]> By: Edward http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/comment-page-1/#comment-1039748 Edward Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:30:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/29/a-true-image-from-the-false-kiva/#comment-1039748 I bow before the master. If I had taken this photo, I would retire my equipment and die knowing my life had not been in vain. I bow before the master.

If I had taken this photo, I would retire my equipment and die knowing my life had not been in vain.

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