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	<title>Comments on: LeMons: Racing Junk Cars</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/28/lemons-racing-junk-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-1037584</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ldlredhed:

First; it&#039;s not all about the money. How many people do you know that play softball, soccer, pool, volleyball, you name it, and expect a return on what they spend on their sport of choice? Bet it&#039;s not many.

Second: The requirements for roll cages, suits, helmets, decent tires/brakes, etc... is for &lt;b&gt;SAFETY&lt;/b&gt;. Liability issues require that (this is the USofA). Besides; I sure wouldn&#039;t want to be racing in a pack of any size if I didn&#039;t have some assurance that they&#039;d be able to negotiate a turn, slow or stop safely. Even with all the safety requirements, someone was killed in a race this year; without them the casualty count would undoubtedly have been higher, and lawsuits would&#039;ve shut down the organization entirely.

The LeMons organizers and racers know what they&#039;re doing, and don&#039;t want those who don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing on the track; they would only be a danger to themselves and others. But there ain&#039;t nuthin&#039; elite about LeMons. If someone wants to race but never has before, there are plenty of opportunities within LeMons to learn from others, but as in a lot of things, a know-it-all attitude won&#039;t get you anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ldlredhed:</p>
<p>First; it&#8217;s not all about the money. How many people do you know that play softball, soccer, pool, volleyball, you name it, and expect a return on what they spend on their sport of choice? Bet it&#8217;s not many.</p>
<p>Second: The requirements for roll cages, suits, helmets, decent tires/brakes, etc&#8230; is for <b>SAFETY</b>. Liability issues require that (this is the USofA). Besides; I sure wouldn&#8217;t want to be racing in a pack of any size if I didn&#8217;t have some assurance that they&#8217;d be able to negotiate a turn, slow or stop safely. Even with all the safety requirements, someone was killed in a race this year; without them the casualty count would undoubtedly have been higher, and lawsuits would&#8217;ve shut down the organization entirely.</p>
<p>The LeMons organizers and racers know what they&#8217;re doing, and don&#8217;t want those who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing on the track; they would only be a danger to themselves and others. But there ain&#8217;t nuthin&#8217; elite about LeMons. If someone wants to race but never has before, there are plenty of opportunities within LeMons to learn from others, but as in a lot of things, a know-it-all attitude won&#8217;t get you anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: ldlredhed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ldlredhed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow,
First.....the prize barely covers the enterance fee for most teams.  $500 for the car and $100 per each driver (4-6 drivers are required) plus $75 for the non driving team mambers.
Second....this doesn&#039;t include all the many extras that need to be done/required to have the car race ready...roll cage, suits and helmets (where 415$ is the &quot;cheap&quot; selection), special seatbelts, special seats if they don&#039;t meet height requirement...ect

This sounded like an interesting event...I was actually stoked till I read all the various requirements.....they say &quot;nice cars aren&#039;t welcome&quot;  but this is still an event for the racing elite.
sigh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow,<br />
First&#8230;..the prize barely covers the enterance fee for most teams.  $500 for the car and $100 per each driver (4-6 drivers are required) plus $75 for the non driving team mambers.<br />
Second&#8230;.this doesn&#8217;t include all the many extras that need to be done/required to have the car race ready&#8230;roll cage, suits and helmets (where 415$ is the &#8220;cheap&#8221; selection), special seatbelts, special seats if they don&#8217;t meet height requirement&#8230;ect</p>
<p>This sounded like an interesting event&#8230;I was actually stoked till I read all the various requirements&#8230;..they say &#8220;nice cars aren&#8217;t welcome&#8221;  but this is still an event for the racing elite.<br />
sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/28/lemons-racing-junk-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-1034725</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LeMons is what true racing is about; no corporate sponsors, no big prizes, no high-dollar equipment... The racers and support teams are there just for the love of the sport, and for fun. And when someone is suspected to be cheating, the punishments can be, umm, a little severe; like &lt;a href=&quot;http://jalopnik.com/399327/lemons-peoples-curse-victim-salazar-racing-bmw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this BMW&lt;/a&gt; that &quot;won&quot; the People&#039;s Curse award and got chewed up by some heavy equipment.

Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://jalopnik.com/tag/24-hours-of-lemons/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jalopnik.com&lt;/a&gt; for complete LeMons coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeMons is what true racing is about; no corporate sponsors, no big prizes, no high-dollar equipment&#8230; The racers and support teams are there just for the love of the sport, and for fun. And when someone is suspected to be cheating, the punishments can be, umm, a little severe; like <a href="http://jalopnik.com/399327/lemons-peoples-curse-victim-salazar-racing-bmw" rel="nofollow">this BMW</a> that &#8220;won&#8221; the People&#8217;s Curse award and got chewed up by some heavy equipment.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://jalopnik.com/tag/24-hours-of-lemons/" rel="nofollow">Jalopnik.com</a> for complete LeMons coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/28/lemons-racing-junk-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-1034075</link>
		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The #85 has Alitalia colours. Yes it&#039;s a lemon ;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The #85 has Alitalia colours. Yes it&#8217;s a lemon ;p</p>
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