The YouTube Gunman

jeez, what can you do? For every one wacko that actually does this, there are 1000 people who are just talking.

Nice. Way to take a story and spin it into some pro-gun control piece.

If police let the guy go simply because he had a license to carry, then they are idiots. He violated the law by making threats of violence, which are not covered by the freedom of speech. Gun control laws are not at fault here, a dumbass kid with dumbass parents and dumbass police are.

The picture is a little disturbing, and perpetuates his bravado. Good to cover the story. Not the picture I would have chosen.

Very sad situation, but it shows these things happen elsewhere than in the USA.

Oh please, the gun somehow caused this? It’s an inanimate object.

Unfortunately, defenseless is rarely the same as safe.

Uttles,

That’s kind of the point behind laws. Yeah, the police, the parents and the kid might all have been stupid. Stupid people abound on this planet. If police always had the immediate and right answers, and parents were all intelligent, and kids never made poor decisions, laws would be obsolete. Bureaucracy – as much as we hate it – exists because it’s impossible to have consistent and reaosonable thoughts on all levels of authority.

is there a psychology knowledgable person over here that could explain why they don’t just start blowing their own brains or jump from a bridge?
Some stuff seems quite hard to understand…

I’ve posted about things not being ‘neat’ or ‘neato’ before, and basically have had other commenters mock me for it (such as ‘this isn’t called “Rose Colored Glasses-o-rama” ‘ or some such thing.) So i give up in saying that, even though it applies.

That being said – here’s a comment that is something completely different!:

Man, this wouldn’t have happened if the police who released him didn’t play all those violent video games!
(sarcasm).

How much do you want to bet that he, like EVERY SINGLE OTHER KID that went off on a spree, was on some psychotropic drug? (US Gov’t data.) And I would bet a million bucks that it was an “anti-depressant” that made him _depressed_ enough to be insane. Don’t you just love modern “science”? Or, correctly, modern quacks!

Want proof?
http://www.cchr.org/video/psychiatric_drugs/Fight_for_Kids_The_Candace _Downing_Story.html

I like neatorama because it exposes me to information I might not come across otherwise. This post is not any worse than what you see on any local news, especially considering that it just states what happened without putting some spin on the story. You “Neat Freaks” need to chill.

I didn’t hear about this and I don’t read the news. I actually rely on anything important enough spilling over into the blogs I read that wouldn’t otherwise cover regular news.

I appreciate the article.

I bet if schools encouraged their students to start carrying guns we wouldn’t see another thing like this for a really long time.

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Guns just make it a little bit easier for people to kill people. I think (watch out, this is a personal OPINION!) this lunatic wouldn’t have had a chance to kill 10 people if he had used a knife…

@Ted: but he did, he shot himself in the head and died, so he’s no coward after all.

… but on the other hand, I might have misread your comment.

dandy, did you not notice this happened in Finland?

I don’t see why it isn’t “neat”. It may not be happy, wacky stuff, but not everything that is fascinating is cheerful. Sometimes, fascinating things are terrible, horrible examples of human behavior. Sometimes, that is the reason they are so interesting.

Besides, it isn’t like Alex posted a picture of the gunshot wounds or something.

I’m with Ted, if they want to die, why don’t they just do it. Why murder innocent people, just for attention, then do it. Cowards.

The reason they don’t just kill themselves is because they don’t just ‘want to die’. From what I’ve taken from all these murder-suicide people, what they *want* to do is kill people.

Only after they’ve killed and find themselves in a hopeless situation – realizing what they’ve done and now faced with the dispair and self-loathing of their villiany (as well as the despair of facing consequence) – THEN suicide it what they want.

That’s just my theory on such people’s motivation and behavior pattern.

No less cowardly, no less tragic for all involved.

@sw: No I hadn’t – guess I’ve seen way to many drug killings to even look anymore. Now that’s sad…

@bekkie: As I mentioned above, I will bet it was psychotropics that got him into that state of mind in the first place. Why in God’s name would you want to send him back to those quacks for more?

Did he kill himself? Well, then, he did have the guts to finish the job. I had heard that he was still alive – shot all the other people and then couldn’t do himself.

just a guy, you’ve got a good point. I think what they do is they back themselves into a corner. This guy – nobody would care if he just shot himself in his apartment. He wants to be noticed, but he also doesn’t have the balls to shoot himself without first building himself up.

So, he goes and kills a bunch of people he never liked, and with the cops on their way, he can finally find the “courage” to take his own life. He’s gone past the point of no return, and forced himself to die or face the consequences of his actions. At that point, death becomes the easier option for him, and he’s able to pull the trigger.

Still a coward.