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	<title>Comments on: Rock Carvings Document the Secret History of Aboriginal Contact with Outsiders</title>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe this could be the real thing, however would be extremely interested to know if they actually bothered to ask the traditional land owners permission to photograph these rocks.
I have studied australian aboriginal art under Sally Butler from University of Queensland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe this could be the real thing, however would be extremely interested to know if they actually bothered to ask the traditional land owners permission to photograph these rocks.<br />
I have studied australian aboriginal art under Sally Butler from University of Queensland.</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went back and ahad a really rthorough look at the slide show, and sure enough the boats are painted not scratched in. Which blows my line of thinking out of the water.

But it does throw up some very odd things, a lot of the "modern" drawings are painted over older paintings.

THis as far as I kow simply doesn't happen with in aboriginal art/tradition.

The pantings are semi mystical in themsselves and are maintianed generation after generation, going back a SERIOUSLY long time.

So it would be frankly bizarre for some one to decide that drawing a a biplane or the missionaries should be domne over the old sacred paintings.

It may well be from the 19th century but it does seem very strange to attribute it to aboriginal peoples.

As their population has gone into decline many of the old sites simply don't have enough informed people to maintain them, and quite a few have had significant vandalism problems.

19th century vandalism?

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went back and ahad a really rthorough look at the slide show, and sure enough the boats are painted not scratched in. Which blows my line of thinking out of the water.</p>
<p>But it does throw up some very odd things, a lot of the &#8220;modern&#8221; drawings are painted over older paintings.</p>
<p>THis as far as I kow simply doesn&#8217;t happen with in aboriginal art/tradition.</p>
<p>The pantings are semi mystical in themsselves and are maintianed generation after generation, going back a SERIOUSLY long time.</p>
<p>So it would be frankly bizarre for some one to decide that drawing a a biplane or the missionaries should be domne over the old sacred paintings.</p>
<p>It may well be from the 19th century but it does seem very strange to attribute it to aboriginal peoples.</p>
<p>As their population has gone into decline many of the old sites simply don&#8217;t have enough informed people to maintain them, and quite a few have had significant vandalism problems.</p>
<p>19th century vandalism?</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempscire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tempscire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of the images seen in the slide show look like what you'd expect to see for aboriginal art. There's even a couple other depictions of ships that blend right into that style.

What's pictured above looks like someone Photoshopped some 19th century etchings onto a cave wall. Those are suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the images seen in the slide show look like what you&#8217;d expect to see for aboriginal art. There&#8217;s even a couple other depictions of ships that blend right into that style.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s pictured above looks like someone Photoshopped some 19th century etchings onto a cave wall. Those are suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mati

"Aboriginal Art" uses a very distinct visual lexicon and system of symbols that is not used by Occidentals.

And within the definition of Aboriginal to mean The aboriginal peoples of Australia including the Torres Strait Islanders even there ther is no homogeny. But they do have more in common artisically than they do with the European traditions.

Are you saying it's racist to say Aboriginal art?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mati</p>
<p>&#8220;Aboriginal Art&#8221; uses a very distinct visual lexicon and system of symbols that is not used by Occidentals.</p>
<p>And within the definition of Aboriginal to mean The aboriginal peoples of Australia including the Torres Strait Islanders even there ther is no homogeny. But they do have more in common artisically than they do with the European traditions.</p>
<p>Are you saying it&#8217;s racist to say Aboriginal art?</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like things other than that.  Good work on being gullible, Moti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like things other than that.  Good work on being gullible, Moti.</p>
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		<title>By: Moti The Wonder Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moti The Wonder Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone calling hoax actually read the story and seen ALL the pictures instead of just the one featured here?  I call not a hoax (many of the pictures are quite recent, some are 1000s of years old) and do some research first before calling hoax.  
"Aboriginal art simply doesn’t look like the object being depicted"  - what does "aboriginal" art look like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone calling hoax actually read the story and seen ALL the pictures instead of just the one featured here?  I call not a hoax (many of the pictures are quite recent, some are 1000s of years old) and do some research first before calling hoax.<br />
&#8220;Aboriginal art simply doesn’t look like the object being depicted&#8221;  - what does &#8220;aboriginal&#8221; art look like?</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think it is particularly cynical to see a fraud at work when all the visual cues  scream HOAX.

All the drawings scratched into rock supposedly in the 19th century but oddly have not weathered back to the colour of the rock in a century.
And they are all the same state of unweathered, like they were all done at once.

Also the pics are all obviously photo referenced, thr sailing boat is at an angle, which wold be a big leap from no perspective non realist art to an action shot including fore shortening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is particularly cynical to see a fraud at work when all the visual cues  scream HOAX.</p>
<p>All the drawings scratched into rock supposedly in the 19th century but oddly have not weathered back to the colour of the rock in a century.<br />
And they are all the same state of unweathered, like they were all done at once.</p>
<p>Also the pics are all obviously photo referenced, thr sailing boat is at an angle, which wold be a big leap from no perspective non realist art to an action shot including fore shortening.</p>
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		<title>By: Moodindigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moodindigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, aren't we all getting cynical. "Hoax" from me too though. Reminds me of the Ica stones:

skepdic.com/icastones.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, aren&#8217;t we all getting cynical. &#8220;Hoax&#8221; from me too though. Reminds me of the Ica stones:</p>
<p>skepdic.com/icastones.html</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazing how I thought 'hoax' as well. Still, there is hope...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazing how I thought &#8216;hoax&#8217; as well. Still, there is hope&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CheeseDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>CheeseDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its quite obvious its fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its quite obvious its fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fake as a virgin after prom night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fake as a virgin after prom night!</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm skeptical. The art is not in the Aboriginal style, it looks Western.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m skeptical. The art is not in the Aboriginal style, it looks Western.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shopped, or just plain fake.
They would never go into that much detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shopped, or just plain fake.<br />
They would never go into that much detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aboriginal art simply doesn't look like the object being depicted. They never used perspective.
Hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aboriginal art simply doesn&#8217;t look like the object being depicted. They never used perspective.<br />
Hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: Aea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this some sort of elaborate hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be terribly surprised if this some sort of elaborate hoax.</p>
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