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		<title>By: wrybabydave</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-928320</link>
		<dc:creator>wrybabydave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family turned off cable when Fear Factor came on at all hours of the day. Every. Day. That was a while ago! But we still enjoy the good bits of TV. There are so many ways to take only what you want now, that we&#039;ve made cable sort of obsolete in our home. We can watch political debates online, rent seasons of hit shows and catch up on TV&#039;s contribution to pop culture through blogs. All without the cost of cable or Tivo. Of course, our friends still think we&#039;re nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family turned off cable when Fear Factor came on at all hours of the day. Every. Day. That was a while ago! But we still enjoy the good bits of TV. There are so many ways to take only what you want now, that we've made cable sort of obsolete in our home. We can watch political debates online, rent seasons of hit shows and catch up on TV's contribution to pop culture through blogs. All without the cost of cable or Tivo. Of course, our friends still think we're nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-911814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with TVorNotTV. I watch Lost, Supernatural, and the Simpsons on TV, but since I don&#039;t have cable I watch like ten other shows on the Internet and DVD. Does this mean that I only watch 2.5 hours of TV a week? Of course not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm with TVorNotTV. I watch Lost, Supernatural, and the Simpsons on TV, but since I don't have cable I watch like ten other shows on the Internet and DVD. Does this mean that I only watch 2.5 hours of TV a week? Of course not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Parrish</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-904167</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Parrish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I&#039;ll be specific since there seems to be a bit of ambiguity here)
I stopped watching 99.9999% broadcast television about 7 years ago, and I primarily use the TV for watching movies from Netflix.  The other 0.0001% of the time the TV is not on a DVD is because there is a hurricane or tropical storm nearby me (Miami) and having the TV on to see possible evacuation orders is easier than listening to someone describe it on the radio.

I&#039;ll even up the snobbery a little bit in that the ONLY terrestrial radio I have listened to in the past two years is NPR ;-P  However I do listen to streaming internet music, but I only loosely call that as *radio*.


Oh, and why did I stop? I&#039;d say a mix of #1 and #2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I'll be specific since there seems to be a bit of ambiguity here)<br />
I stopped watching 99.9999% broadcast television about 7 years ago, and I primarily use the TV for watching movies from Netflix.  The other 0.0001% of the time the TV is not on a DVD is because there is a hurricane or tropical storm nearby me (Miami) and having the TV on to see possible evacuation orders is easier than listening to someone describe it on the radio.</p>
<p>I'll even up the snobbery a little bit in that the ONLY terrestrial radio I have listened to in the past two years is NPR ;-P  However I do listen to streaming internet music, but I only loosely call that as *radio*.</p>
<p>Oh, and why did I stop? I'd say a mix of #1 and #2.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunk Strutts</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-899517</link>
		<dc:creator>Bunk Strutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped watching TV about the time my kids started.  They&#039;d beg me not to come into the room because I&#039;d cause the program they were watching to be interrupted by commercial breaks.  As they got older, they begged me not to come in because the DVD would start skipping or freeze up as soon as I sat down.

I just gave it up, although I do miss COPS reruns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped watching TV about the time my kids started.  They'd beg me not to come into the room because I'd cause the program they were watching to be interrupted by commercial breaks.  As they got older, they begged me not to come in because the DVD would start skipping or freeze up as soon as I sat down.</p>
<p>I just gave it up, although I do miss COPS reruns.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-898570</link>
		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to comment on what Dolly said.
You work on shows for theater yet you say, &quot;Even good TV is pretty insubstancial compared to art.&quot;  Says who?  What is classified as art? 
You read, meditate and play with the cats and describe that as &quot;being engaged in real life&quot;. Well, if you say so I guess.
When watchin TV &quot;you&#039;re always thinking of something else you should be doing&quot; but listening to NPR and watching YouTube videos doesn&#039;t cause the same reaction?
You have got to be on that high horse you claim you&#039;re not on, otherwise you couldn&#039;t look that far down your nose at us peons watching television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've got to comment on what Dolly said.<br />
You work on shows for theater yet you say, "Even good TV is pretty insubstancial compared to art."  Says who?  What is classified as art?<br />
You read, meditate and play with the cats and describe that as "being engaged in real life". Well, if you say so I guess.<br />
When watchin TV "you're always thinking of something else you should be doing" but listening to NPR and watching YouTube videos doesn't cause the same reaction?<br />
You have got to be on that high horse you claim you're not on, otherwise you couldn't look that far down your nose at us peons watching television.</p>
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		<title>By: malcreant</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-898463</link>
		<dc:creator>malcreant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it odd to have a 42&quot; Plasma TV but not have a cable connection to it?  All I wanted it for was movies and for displaying photos.

I have just given up on Cox&#039;s DVR.  Pretty much useless when compared to even a TIVO.  I&#039;m hoping to create a box which uses Sage or Myth and use it as a video jukebox.

Now all i need are a few terabyte raid drive arrays. (that don&#039;t drown out the TV)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it odd to have a 42" Plasma TV but not have a cable connection to it?  All I wanted it for was movies and for displaying photos.</p>
<p>I have just given up on Cox's DVR.  Pretty much useless when compared to even a TIVO.  I'm hoping to create a box which uses Sage or Myth and use it as a video jukebox.</p>
<p>Now all i need are a few terabyte raid drive arrays. (that don't drown out the TV)</p>
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		<title>By: Thebes</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-2/#comment-896699</link>
		<dc:creator>Thebes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I haven&#039;t owned a television in over a decade. I understand now, when I see it in a bar or whatnot, why they call it television programming.

How do you want to live your life? What do you want to accomplish? I bet you didn&#039;t just say &quot;sit on my butt eating junk food and staring at a stupid show&quot;. Stop watching tv 3+ hours a day and you just might get some of whatever you did say done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I haven't owned a television in over a decade. I understand now, when I see it in a bar or whatnot, why they call it television programming.</p>
<p>How do you want to live your life? What do you want to accomplish? I bet you didn't just say "sit on my butt eating junk food and staring at a stupid show". Stop watching tv 3+ hours a day and you just might get some of whatever you did say done.</p>
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		<title>By: HoHum</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-896252</link>
		<dc:creator>HoHum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoopdi-do. Some of us finished undergrad courses before, and inclusive of, watching tee-vee. What does that say about your focusing faculties? Not to mention one&#039;s lack of fiscal priorities by allocating such sums for programming.

Just because you were incapable of making good decisions when it came to divvying up your time and money with tv in the loop doesn&#039;t mean other people can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoopdi-do. Some of us finished undergrad courses before, and inclusive of, watching tee-vee. What does that say about your focusing faculties? Not to mention one's lack of fiscal priorities by allocating such sums for programming.</p>
<p>Just because you were incapable of making good decisions when it came to divvying up your time and money with tv in the loop doesn't mean other people can't.</p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-895256</link>
		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave up TV in 2003 when I relocated to a new city.  I realized at the time that I was paying $125/mo for digital cable and internet, and watched a staggering 2 shows.  Whose Line is it Anyway and Dave Atell&#039;s Insomniac.  

I use the internet pretty regularly so I do still pay for that, and any shows I care for (The Office, South Park, It&#039;s Always Sunny in Philly) I catch online or buy on DVD.  Since I stopped wasting away watching TV, I&#039;ve gone back to school and am almost done with my first AA degree. :D    Kill your TV, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up TV in 2003 when I relocated to a new city.  I realized at the time that I was paying $125/mo for digital cable and internet, and watched a staggering 2 shows.  Whose Line is it Anyway and Dave Atell's Insomniac.  </p>
<p>I use the internet pretty regularly so I do still pay for that, and any shows I care for (The Office, South Park, It's Always Sunny in Philly) I catch online or buy on DVD.  Since I stopped wasting away watching TV, I've gone back to school and am almost done with my first AA degree. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />     Kill your TV, people!</p>
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		<title>By: tycho</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-891574</link>
		<dc:creator>tycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch TV either, but not because I have any sort of objection to it.  I just fell out of the habit while living in a house without any reliable reception.  I grew up as an avid tv watcher but life without tv isn&#039;t a big change at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't watch TV either, but not because I have any sort of objection to it.  I just fell out of the habit while living in a house without any reliable reception.  I grew up as an avid tv watcher but life without tv isn't a big change at all.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad you weren&#039;t learning how to break one paragraph up into several others, Dolly. I might have actually read  your comment.

Okay, I started to, but you began to climb that high horse and I gave up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad you weren't learning how to break one paragraph up into several others, Dolly. I might have actually read  your comment.</p>
<p>Okay, I started to, but you began to climb that high horse and I gave up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolly</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-889637</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have a tv, but it only goes on when we (me and my best friend) want to watch a movie or a dvd (documentaries sometimes). As far as those people wondering what it is that we DO if not sitting passively in front of the screen, well, for instance, we are working on shows for our theater company (rehearsals or performances almost every night) or between shows, writing/editing/marketing (I have 3 free-lance jobs that involve editing or writing or suchlike), cooking fabulous meals, reading books, volunteering for a variety of non-profits, meditating, playing with the cats -- in other words, engaged in real life (well, I guess you can call theatre &quot;real&quot; life -- at least it&#039;s got live people to interact with) instead of just being a sponge, just sitting there looking at shadows on a screen -- illusions instead of reality. Come on people, it&#039;s not snobbery -- I used to watch a bit, especially when my husband was dying, and I would keep him company as he watched the Food Network and Chuck Norris (go figure!), but after he died, I realized that there were just too many other fascinating activities luring me away from the tube. I&#039;m not up on a high horse, just honestly not really interested in what&#039;s happening in that world. Which is ironic, since one of my writing projects was a sitcom I developed with a friend (that never went anywhere since neither of us had any Hollywood connections). I read the newspaper, listen to NPR and surf the web for information, look at clips on YouTube sometimes (we love MadTV), but haven&#039;t the patience, I guess, to just sit -- I&#039;m always thinking of something else I should be doing, so tend to just do it and never even think of turning on the tv. We actually were planning to watch the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, but just are not in the habit of turning on the tv, so missed it. Oh well, no big deal. Ephemera is all it is. Not anything lasting or significant, really, if you are honest about it. Even good tv is pretty insubstantial compared to art. Is it possible for anything on tv to even approach art? I don&#039;t know. Maybe something on PBS occasionally. A great documentary (but we tend to get those from Netflix so we can watch them at our leisure). Mostly, not. I don&#039;t plan to get a digital converter box (although maybe for the 3 times annually we DO turn on the box -- for the Tonys, the Oscars, the Emmies)? We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have a tv, but it only goes on when we (me and my best friend) want to watch a movie or a dvd (documentaries sometimes). As far as those people wondering what it is that we DO if not sitting passively in front of the screen, well, for instance, we are working on shows for our theater company (rehearsals or performances almost every night) or between shows, writing/editing/marketing (I have 3 free-lance jobs that involve editing or writing or suchlike), cooking fabulous meals, reading books, volunteering for a variety of non-profits, meditating, playing with the cats -- in other words, engaged in real life (well, I guess you can call theatre "real" life -- at least it's got live people to interact with) instead of just being a sponge, just sitting there looking at shadows on a screen -- illusions instead of reality. Come on people, it's not snobbery -- I used to watch a bit, especially when my husband was dying, and I would keep him company as he watched the Food Network and Chuck Norris (go figure!), but after he died, I realized that there were just too many other fascinating activities luring me away from the tube. I'm not up on a high horse, just honestly not really interested in what's happening in that world. Which is ironic, since one of my writing projects was a sitcom I developed with a friend (that never went anywhere since neither of us had any Hollywood connections). I read the newspaper, listen to NPR and surf the web for information, look at clips on YouTube sometimes (we love MadTV), but haven't the patience, I guess, to just sit -- I'm always thinking of something else I should be doing, so tend to just do it and never even think of turning on the tv. We actually were planning to watch the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, but just are not in the habit of turning on the tv, so missed it. Oh well, no big deal. Ephemera is all it is. Not anything lasting or significant, really, if you are honest about it. Even good tv is pretty insubstantial compared to art. Is it possible for anything on tv to even approach art? I don't know. Maybe something on PBS occasionally. A great documentary (but we tend to get those from Netflix so we can watch them at our leisure). Mostly, not. I don't plan to get a digital converter box (although maybe for the 3 times annually we DO turn on the box -- for the Tonys, the Oscars, the Emmies)? We'll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Instead?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instead?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the folks who insist on &quot;I could be doing other things instead:&quot;

Like what? What makes watching something that one derives some form of satisfaction from (whether in the form of new information, &quot;mindless&quot; delight, or what-have-you) any less valid as a thing-to-do?

Get off your high-horses. What, just because you&#039;re reading it&#039;s a better use of your time? Have you seen some of the dreck people read? What&#039; it&#039;s more &quot;intellectual&quot; because it&#039;s on paper instead of phosphor? Or how about the exercise lobby? Just because you&#039;re &quot;outdoors&quot; it&#039;s a better use of your time?

There&#039;s ALWAYS something else to do, that&#039;s the bane of your modern civilized existence. You wouldn&#039;t BE worrying about what to do if your life were dictated by the realities of a hard-scrabble existence - the same plight that still exists in other parts of the world. So stop being all high-and-mighty and take a good long look at your &quot;I&#039;m doing something better&quot; remonstrations.

As far as I&#039;m concerned, if you&#039;re not doing anything that DIRECTLY benefits another human being (helping old people cross the street, making and delivering sandwiches to elderly homeless, visiting patients at a children&#039;s hospital, tending that garden of veggies which you intend to give out to the needy, etc), then you&#039;re just as much of a time-waster as the couch potato you&#039;re denigrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the folks who insist on "I could be doing other things instead:"</p>
<p>Like what? What makes watching something that one derives some form of satisfaction from (whether in the form of new information, "mindless" delight, or what-have-you) any less valid as a thing-to-do?</p>
<p>Get off your high-horses. What, just because you're reading it's a better use of your time? Have you seen some of the dreck people read? What' it's more "intellectual" because it's on paper instead of phosphor? Or how about the exercise lobby? Just because you're "outdoors" it's a better use of your time?</p>
<p>There's ALWAYS something else to do, that's the bane of your modern civilized existence. You wouldn't BE worrying about what to do if your life were dictated by the realities of a hard-scrabble existence - the same plight that still exists in other parts of the world. So stop being all high-and-mighty and take a good long look at your "I'm doing something better" remonstrations.</p>
<p>As far as I'm concerned, if you're not doing anything that DIRECTLY benefits another human being (helping old people cross the street, making and delivering sandwiches to elderly homeless, visiting patients at a children's hospital, tending that garden of veggies which you intend to give out to the needy, etc), then you're just as much of a time-waster as the couch potato you're denigrating.</p>
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		<title>By: TVorNotTV</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-889295</link>
		<dc:creator>TVorNotTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many things wrong with that article... I should first call out the irony that the article itself is of the &quot;sound byte&quot; variety - it&#039;s practically insubstantial. Why? Because the people reading it are expecting short &quot;TV-sized&quot; bytes.

That being said, the article doesn&#039;t make clear whether:

1) No TV = no physical display devices in the home.
2) No TV = Display device(s) present, but no cable / satellite service; however playback devices (DVD player, VCR, game console, etc) present.
3) No TV = ditto #2, add OTA antenna
4) No TV = ditto #3, subtract playback devices

Each of the above options entails entirely different things, as some commenters have already stated. It&#039;s also bothersome that most &quot;intellectuals&quot; who claim not to own / watch TV take the view that the lumpenmasse who do are somehow less intelligent or educated than they.

Why is discovery of new facts or frontiers only acceptable if it comes from dead trees or classrooms? In today&#039;s information-saturated world, you&#039;d have to be a total Luddite to still maintain the fiction that TV = network OTA broadcasts only. BBC (and the BBC America variant), PBS (in all affiliate permutations), Discovery, TLC, Science Channel, History Channel, etc etc etc - each of these channels offer well-produced and - let&#039;s face it and accept the fact - easily-digestible content which serve to expand a person&#039;s knowledge and view of the world. And who&#039;s to say that, once piqued, that same person couldn&#039;t go out and read more about a given subject?

To paraphrase a famous archaeologist&#039;s father, &quot;it tells me that Goose-stepping morons like these should try watching TV instead of burning them!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many things wrong with that article... I should first call out the irony that the article itself is of the "sound byte" variety - it's practically insubstantial. Why? Because the people reading it are expecting short "TV-sized" bytes.</p>
<p>That being said, the article doesn't make clear whether:</p>
<p>1) No TV = no physical display devices in the home.<br />
2) No TV = Display device(s) present, but no cable / satellite service; however playback devices (DVD player, VCR, game console, etc) present.<br />
3) No TV = ditto #2, add OTA antenna<br />
4) No TV = ditto #3, subtract playback devices</p>
<p>Each of the above options entails entirely different things, as some commenters have already stated. It's also bothersome that most "intellectuals" who claim not to own / watch TV take the view that the lumpenmasse who do are somehow less intelligent or educated than they.</p>
<p>Why is discovery of new facts or frontiers only acceptable if it comes from dead trees or classrooms? In today's information-saturated world, you'd have to be a total Luddite to still maintain the fiction that TV = network OTA broadcasts only. BBC (and the BBC America variant), PBS (in all affiliate permutations), Discovery, TLC, Science Channel, History Channel, etc etc etc - each of these channels offer well-produced and - let's face it and accept the fact - easily-digestible content which serve to expand a person's knowledge and view of the world. And who's to say that, once piqued, that same person couldn't go out and read more about a given subject?</p>
<p>To paraphrase a famous archaeologist's father, "it tells me that Goose-stepping morons like these should try watching TV instead of burning them!"</p>
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		<title>By: CheeseDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888962</link>
		<dc:creator>CheeseDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats a TV? I stick to my mistress the internet.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrés M.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888886</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrés M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived for the past two years without a TV and I love it. The problem now is internet, in every sense better and more addictive for information freaks like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived for the past two years without a TV and I love it. The problem now is internet, in every sense better and more addictive for information freaks like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888774</link>
		<dc:creator>Neatoramawontsendmeapassword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch as much TV as I used to.  I&#039;m on the computer more (not sure if that&#039;s a good thing).  During the summer, it&#039;s a lot easier to go with less TV.  There&#039;s nothing on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't watch as much TV as I used to.  I'm on the computer more (not sure if that's a good thing).  During the summer, it's a lot easier to go with less TV.  There's nothing on!</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888558</link>
		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No TV by choice... 
With more and more streaming programs / videos on Internet, I feel I&#039;m back to square one ;)</description>
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With more and more streaming programs / videos on Internet, I feel I'm back to square one <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Passerby</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888490</link>
		<dc:creator>Passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people I know can&#039;t understand why I don&#039;t watch tv anymore.  I stopped because it seriously annoys me and there are things I&#039;d rather be doing instead.

The longer I go without watching it, the more irritating some things about it become.  &#039;Laugh tracks&#039; on sitcoms, for example, are incredibly annoying after a year or so of not being exposed to them. Commercials drive me crazy. Wading through an hour of news when I can get what I want to know in a few minutes of reading online makes no sense.

Add a lack of much worth watching, and I&#039;m glad to do about anything else other than flip through 200+ channels for 20 minutes, trying in vain to find something that interests me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people I know can't understand why I don't watch tv anymore.  I stopped because it seriously annoys me and there are things I'd rather be doing instead.</p>
<p>The longer I go without watching it, the more irritating some things about it become.  'Laugh tracks' on sitcoms, for example, are incredibly annoying after a year or so of not being exposed to them. Commercials drive me crazy. Wading through an hour of news when I can get what I want to know in a few minutes of reading online makes no sense.</p>
<p>Add a lack of much worth watching, and I'm glad to do about anything else other than flip through 200+ channels for 20 minutes, trying in vain to find something that interests me.</p>
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		<title>By: James Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888478</link>
		<dc:creator>James Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in television, and i love it. People watching television helps me support my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in television, and i love it. People watching television helps me support my family.</p>
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		<title>By: mu</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888439</link>
		<dc:creator>mu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped watching TV in 1990. I was in university and I didn&#039;t have time for it, I couldn&#039;t afford a TV or cable either. If anything comes out on TV that I want to see (Trailer Park Boys, Battlestar Galactica, ...), then I wait until it is out on DVD and watch the whole season at once.

I&#039;d probably fall into the socially liberal but fiscally conservative stereotype. I don&#039;t watch because there&#039;s nothing worth watching (that can&#039;t wait for DVDs) and I find that I&#039;m happier and calmer without the anxiety inducing advertising and &quot;news&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped watching TV in 1990. I was in university and I didn't have time for it, I couldn't afford a TV or cable either. If anything comes out on TV that I want to see (Trailer Park Boys, Battlestar Galactica, ...), then I wait until it is out on DVD and watch the whole season at once.</p>
<p>I'd probably fall into the socially liberal but fiscally conservative stereotype. I don't watch because there's nothing worth watching (that can't wait for DVDs) and I find that I'm happier and calmer without the anxiety inducing advertising and "news".</p>
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		<title>By: lisanocap</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-888389</link>
		<dc:creator>lisanocap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my tv blew up 3 years ago and i&#039;m to cheap to buy a new one.  too much reality crap on any way.</description>
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		<title>By: Marcie V.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887998</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcie V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of my friends or I watch tv, and it is safe to say we are all very liberal, but hardly &quot;crunchy&quot;. I just don&#039;t enjoy tv, it&#039;s so predictable, the ads make me crazy, and I just feel like my time is spent better elsewhere. We are all highly creative and intelligent, and it would be a shame to turn all our excellent conversations and activities to talking about tv shows. 
 I did have one person ask me once, upon hearing that I don&#039;t watch tv, if I went to the movies every night. She was baffled that I didn&#039;t choose to spend my evenings watching some sort of moving picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of my friends or I watch tv, and it is safe to say we are all very liberal, but hardly "crunchy". I just don't enjoy tv, it's so predictable, the ads make me crazy, and I just feel like my time is spent better elsewhere. We are all highly creative and intelligent, and it would be a shame to turn all our excellent conversations and activities to talking about tv shows.<br />
 I did have one person ask me once, upon hearing that I don't watch tv, if I went to the movies every night. She was baffled that I didn't choose to spend my evenings watching some sort of moving picture.</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887948</link>
		<dc:creator>red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to watch loads of TV when I was in advertising.  Along absorbing every other type of media I could.  This habit stuck even after I left advertising though.  Looking at media as a whole, it starts to become one big piece of art to me with many different layers to explore.

Anyway, land lady cut off the cable in the spring, and I decided not to put it back up on my own dime.  Thought I&#039;d see how well I&#039;d fair without it.

My life and the way I conceptualize some things has definitely changed without the constant exposure to advertising.   I find I&#039;m much more susceptible to an ad when I DO come across one now.

Still, now I find myself spending too much time at the computer, surfing and watching tv on it instead.  My attention span is nil because of the over load of media choices in one spot.  

Personally, I&#039;m going to bring the tv cable back.  At least then I did a multitude of other chores and respectable activities while it was on in the background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to watch loads of TV when I was in advertising.  Along absorbing every other type of media I could.  This habit stuck even after I left advertising though.  Looking at media as a whole, it starts to become one big piece of art to me with many different layers to explore.</p>
<p>Anyway, land lady cut off the cable in the spring, and I decided not to put it back up on my own dime.  Thought I'd see how well I'd fair without it.</p>
<p>My life and the way I conceptualize some things has definitely changed without the constant exposure to advertising.   I find I'm much more susceptible to an ad when I DO come across one now.</p>
<p>Still, now I find myself spending too much time at the computer, surfing and watching tv on it instead.  My attention span is nil because of the over load of media choices in one spot.  </p>
<p>Personally, I'm going to bring the tv cable back.  At least then I did a multitude of other chores and respectable activities while it was on in the background.</p>
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		<title>By: hi</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887847</link>
		<dc:creator>hi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growing up I watched a LOT of TV (pre-internet). In college, I didn&#039;t watch because I couldn&#039;t afford cable, and was too busy anyway. Then I moved in with my boyfriend, who didn&#039;t have one because he can&#039;t pull himself away from even the most insipid stuff and consciously didn&#039;t want to be like his dad. We got basic cable eventually (my idea), and just hated most of the formulaic programming and the ads, God the ads. In high school they taught us how radio and tv were initially invented as advertising vessels, I&#039;ve never forgotten that. My dad is an ad man, so I always tried not to bite the hand that fed me, but it&#039;s just sick how pervasive, flat out misleading and pandering it is. Anyone who loves tv, that&#039;s cool, just be rationally skeptical about what you see in between. Protein in your conditioner won&#039;t do anything to your hair, your hair is dead skin.

Now we watch some select stuff (The Office, Project Runway, How It&#039;s Made), but it&#039;s very hard not to get sucked into watching hours at a time while criticizing it at the same time. He built a free DVR, so we don&#039;t watch commercials or get sucked into whatever is on next. Anytime we watch tv in real-time we can&#039;t stand the ads anymore, so we just don&#039;t. 

Soon the internet will encompass TV, right? I can&#039;t really get all uppity about not watching TV since I spend hours online, but I do think choosing my own interactive content is better than watching whatever programming is on the box in front of me, and at least here I can usually ignore the ads. I also like the fluidity of links, especially on wikipedia (grain of salt there, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up I watched a LOT of TV (pre-internet). In college, I didn't watch because I couldn't afford cable, and was too busy anyway. Then I moved in with my boyfriend, who didn't have one because he can't pull himself away from even the most insipid stuff and consciously didn't want to be like his dad. We got basic cable eventually (my idea), and just hated most of the formulaic programming and the ads, God the ads. In high school they taught us how radio and tv were initially invented as advertising vessels, I've never forgotten that. My dad is an ad man, so I always tried not to bite the hand that fed me, but it's just sick how pervasive, flat out misleading and pandering it is. Anyone who loves tv, that's cool, just be rationally skeptical about what you see in between. Protein in your conditioner won't do anything to your hair, your hair is dead skin.</p>
<p>Now we watch some select stuff (The Office, Project Runway, How It's Made), but it's very hard not to get sucked into watching hours at a time while criticizing it at the same time. He built a free DVR, so we don't watch commercials or get sucked into whatever is on next. Anytime we watch tv in real-time we can't stand the ads anymore, so we just don't. </p>
<p>Soon the internet will encompass TV, right? I can't really get all uppity about not watching TV since I spend hours online, but I do think choosing my own interactive content is better than watching whatever programming is on the box in front of me, and at least here I can usually ignore the ads. I also like the fluidity of links, especially on wikipedia (grain of salt there, too).</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887764</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem may be in how people define &#039;watching TV&#039;. If you mean, do I sit down at the scheduled broadcast hour and spend half or more of the program time watching advertisements for the 3 shows I do take time to watch? Well, the answer is no.

Do I use my laptop and iPhone to watch shows when I want and commercial free? Hell yes. Do I watch shows from overseas with *usually* half-decent subtitles (anime, Kdrama, etc.) which are not delayed, dubbed, and repackaged to suit the &#039;typical US audience/western tastes&#039;?  Hells yes.

And yes, programming today is so poor there are not enough words to express the vacuous, banal, steaming s***pile which continues to ooze out of Los Angeles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem may be in how people define 'watching TV'. If you mean, do I sit down at the scheduled broadcast hour and spend half or more of the program time watching advertisements for the 3 shows I do take time to watch? Well, the answer is no.</p>
<p>Do I use my laptop and iPhone to watch shows when I want and commercial free? Hell yes. Do I watch shows from overseas with *usually* half-decent subtitles (anime, Kdrama, etc.) which are not delayed, dubbed, and repackaged to suit the 'typical US audience/western tastes'?  Hells yes.</p>
<p>And yes, programming today is so poor there are not enough words to express the vacuous, banal, steaming s***pile which continues to ooze out of Los Angeles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycatt</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaycatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should be a little more specific.  I use my TV to watch movies I get from Netflix, but I do not watch regularly broadcast television programs.  Is this what they mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should be a little more specific.  I use my TV to watch movies I get from Netflix, but I do not watch regularly broadcast television programs.  Is this what they mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Gellner</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887586</link>
		<dc:creator>Gellner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t have TV, but I don&#039;t watch one.</description>
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		<title>By: Dandy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887406</link>
		<dc:creator>Dandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s also because there isn&#039;t jack shiite on TV worth watching...?</description>
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		<title>By: Triseult</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/05/living-without-tvs/comment-page-1/#comment-887376</link>
		<dc:creator>Triseult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;TwoDragons:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Most of the shows we loved have either been canceled, turned cheesy, or the host was killed in a freak stingray accident.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, amen to that! You made me smile and sigh in sadness at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>TwoDragons:</b> <i>Most of the shows we loved have either been canceled, turned cheesy, or the host was killed in a freak stingray accident.</i></p>
<p>Oh, amen to that! You made me smile and sigh in sadness at the same time.</p>
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