Comments on: Dogs Learn Morals and a Sense of Fairness From Living with Humans http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:27:17 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Melissa http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-889761 Melissa Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:54:54 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/#comment-889761 The really moral dogs would have been if one had been rewarded with a treat, and saw the one not being rewarded and shared with him. The really moral dogs would have been if one had been rewarded with a treat, and saw the one not being rewarded and shared with him.

]]> By: Xopl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-888851 Xopl Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:41:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/#comment-888851 The dog doesn't feel injustice. This is simply Pavlov. The dog isn't getting food so why bother doing the behavior? Anthropomorphizing animals is bad. The dog doesn't feel injustice. This is simply Pavlov. The dog isn't getting food so why bother doing the behavior? Anthropomorphizing animals is bad.

]]> By: Jaxx http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-888652 Jaxx Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:13:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/#comment-888652 Wait, Wha? So the dog who was not getting rewarded stopped trying to get rewarded? No kidding. This is thought to be because the dog feels its unfair? Maybe if the dog who WAS getting rewarded stopped playing. Feeling guilty that the other dog was not being treated fairly. I think the dog is conditioned to know or think that no reward is coming, so why play. It has nothing to do with the other dog being rewarded. I will go read the article now to see if this experiment is completely off base. Wait, Wha?

So the dog who was not getting rewarded stopped trying to get rewarded? No kidding.

This is thought to be because the dog feels its unfair?

Maybe if the dog who WAS getting rewarded stopped playing. Feeling guilty that the other dog was not being treated fairly.

I think the dog is conditioned to know or think that no reward is coming, so why play. It has nothing to do with the other dog being rewarded.

I will go read the article now to see if this experiment is completely off base.

]]> By: Ty http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-882635 Ty Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:16:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/#comment-882635 They should repeat this experiment with domesticated wolves. They should repeat this experiment with domesticated wolves.

]]> By: Ty http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-882625 Ty Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:15:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/#comment-882625 Poor doggy... Poor doggy...

]]> By: red http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-880817 red Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:46:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/dogs-learn-morals-and-a-sense-of-fairness-from-living-with-humans/#comment-880817 I'd apply this more to pack mentality than a sense of inequity really. The dog consistently receiving the treat is clearly the (scientist)alpha's preferred dog and therefor the one second in line would simply give up until called upon. In a situation where that dog is alone however, he's the apple of the alpha's eye and thus there's no status rules to worry about. Just my theory anyway. I'd apply this more to pack mentality than a sense of inequity really. The dog consistently receiving the treat is clearly the (scientist)alpha's preferred dog and therefor the one second in line would simply give up until called upon.

In a situation where that dog is alone however, he's the apple of the alpha's eye and thus there's no status rules to worry about.

Just my theory anyway.

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