Comments on: A Free Thinker is Satan's Slave http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:22:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Anne Hedonia http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1872244 Anne Hedonia Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:40:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1872244 This is another example of why all forms of religion must be removed from society. By removing damaging aspects of human nature such as religion, faith and emotion, mankind can finally evolve to it's full potential. This is another example of why all forms of religion must be removed from society. By removing damaging aspects of human nature such as religion, faith and emotion, mankind can finally evolve to it's full potential.

]]> By: Ron http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1854141 Ron Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:47:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1854141 I think Robert Green Ingersoll said it best... "I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men." I think Robert Green Ingersoll said it best... "I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men."

]]> By: Leo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1774341 Leo Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:51:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1774341 If you aren't completely The Lord's, then you belong to Satan. If you aren't completely The Lord's, then you belong

to Satan.

]]> By: myk5 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1743657 myk5 Thu, 21 May 2009 22:52:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1743657 Well, Christianity is based on faith. The concept of Hell or Satan is dubious, even in a Christian paradigm, but there's no eliminating the necessity of faith, blind faith, to follow any form of Christian belief. The reality in relation to what we can know is severely limited, the more science discovers the more questions are manifest, not answers. This is how many scientists, to resolve the overwhelming cognitive dissonance, will turn to religion. There are intelligent science aware Christians, but they have in being Christian, surrendered thinking freely. This preacher and his intended message is unknown from just the title. It's even possible the preacher is deluded enough to think free thinking is compatible with Christian faith and means to argue against the Title of the sermon. Well, Christianity is based on faith. The concept of Hell or Satan is dubious, even in a Christian paradigm, but there's no eliminating the necessity of faith, blind faith, to follow any form of Christian belief.

The reality in relation to what we can know is severely limited, the more science discovers the more questions are manifest, not answers. This is how many scientists, to resolve the overwhelming cognitive dissonance, will turn to religion. There are intelligent science aware Christians, but they have in being Christian, surrendered thinking freely.

This preacher and his intended message is unknown from just the title. It's even possible the preacher is deluded enough to think free thinking is compatible with Christian faith and means to argue against the Title of the sermon.

]]> By: bry http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1650696 bry Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:46:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1650696 what it comes down to ,is that there are two types of people . some people believe in magic { god and the super natural } and those that dont . i say that people that believe in magic are more primitive in there thoughts.if it wernt for free thinkers , we would still be living in the trees. what it comes down to ,is that there are two types of people . some people believe in magic { god and the super natural } and those that dont . i say that people that believe in magic are more primitive in there thoughts.if it wernt for free thinkers , we would still be living in the trees.

]]> By: DawNoLiquiD http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1368472 DawNoLiquiD Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:02:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1368472 I really dont understand ! If You guys say that a free thinker is near to Satan .. then i guess , its like asking people to join/hold the bible .. what? is it some kind of club? i could say that, free thinker use most of the time thinking how to earn $$ to survive, going through lfe, no time for religouse stuff .. I really dont understand !
If You guys say that a free thinker is near to Satan ..
then i guess , its like asking people to join/hold the bible .. what? is it some kind of club?
i could say that, free thinker use most of the time thinking how to earn $$ to survive, going through lfe,
no time for religouse stuff ..

]]> By: Colin http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1348701 Colin Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:38:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1348701 I have been a Free Thinker all my life and am now enjoying my retirement. A Free Thinker is one who allows himself not to be bound by systems of belief. That does not mean that one does not have morals etc. By definition if one is a thinker then you have put some time into thinking about a whole range of issues and it may well be that many Free Thinkers live their lives on a much higher moral ground than those who profess to be a Christian but live their lives in an Un-Christian way. A Free Thinker does not look for your disapproval or approval; a person with a conscience needs most to be at peace with themself. Regards Colin I have been a Free Thinker all my life and am now enjoying my retirement.

A Free Thinker is one who allows himself not to be bound by systems of belief. That does not mean that one does not have morals etc. By definition if one is a thinker then you have put some time into thinking about a whole range of issues and it may well be that many Free Thinkers live their lives on a much higher moral ground than those who profess to be a Christian but live their lives in an Un-Christian way.

A Free Thinker does not look for your disapproval or approval; a person with a conscience needs most to be at peace with themself.

Regards
Colin

]]> By: curtis http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1254671 curtis Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:46:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1254671 Basically, i believe this sign alludes to the group of known as the Freedom From Religion Foundation, who are known as the freethinkers. In the case of Hein v. FFRF, they sued the government for funding religious social services. This is one of over 100 suits they have lobbied to stop religion from being allowed in public places. I am a Christian, and while i dont want to ever be one to push my views on anyone else, it is difficult to see them pushed on me. As a lawyer i understand separation of church/state, however, A) this country has foundation of religious belief, B)prayer in public places and funding of religious services (that provide the exact same service as secular groups of the like) should be allowed as a matter of freedom. Thats what the courts held in this landmark case, more for upholding taxpayer standing than anything, but basically, these are people who fight to remove religion from everything in the world, thus, the work of satan in a christianity point of view. Basically, i believe this sign alludes to the group of known as the Freedom From Religion Foundation, who are known as the freethinkers. In the case of Hein v. FFRF, they sued the government for funding religious social services. This is one of over 100 suits they have lobbied to stop religion from being allowed in public places. I am a Christian, and while i dont want to ever be one to push my views on anyone else, it is difficult to see them pushed on me. As a lawyer i understand separation of church/state, however, A) this country has foundation of religious belief, B)prayer in public places and funding of religious services (that provide the exact same service as secular groups of the like) should be allowed as a matter of freedom. Thats what the courts held in this landmark case, more for upholding taxpayer standing than anything, but basically, these are people who fight to remove religion from everything in the world, thus, the work of satan in a christianity point of view.

]]> By: Bax http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1253984 Bax Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:08:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1253984 I have a curiosity on freethinker, all my life, i know religion give fears also opp. I just hate why there are religion, just make wars, discrimination to others who don't believe. Please freethinker, be free don't be like them, don't insult. I feel hatred between the freethinker to the religion is just the same like islam hate others. If freethinker rule the world, would it be a massacre to the religion or man with the religion? Because of hatred that i see to much. CMIIW. Thx I have a curiosity on freethinker, all my life, i know religion give fears also opp. I just hate why there are religion, just make wars, discrimination to others who don't believe. Please freethinker, be free don't be like them, don't insult. I feel hatred between the freethinker to the religion is just the same like islam hate others. If freethinker rule the world, would it be a massacre to the religion or man with the religion? Because of hatred that i see to much. CMIIW. Thx

]]> By: Shane http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1037446 Shane Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:32:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1037446 Got good news for all you people that believe in the bible,,,,,, its a false document and there's no such thing as satan or god,,, they were made up to control people thousands of years ago,,,, sorry i don't candy coat anything,,, the truth hurts that's why you get mad,,,, because its the beginning of knowledge not lies made up by some cultist pastor Ricky Shedd. I will leave all you people with this..... "They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." -Gerald Massey Got good news for all you people that believe in the bible,,,,,, its a false document and there's no such thing as satan or god,,, they were made up to control people thousands of years ago,,,, sorry i don't candy coat anything,,, the truth hurts that's why you get mad,,,, because its the beginning of knowledge not lies made up by some cultist pastor Ricky Shedd. I will leave all you people with this.....

"They must find it difficult...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."
-Gerald Massey

]]> By: cd.hanks@yahoo.com http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-1009036 cd.hanks@yahoo.com Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:55:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-1009036 Isn't this jerk part of the same group that claims that we have "free will"? So we have free will but cannot think for ourselves. Isn't this jerk part of the same group that claims that we have "free will"? So we have free will but cannot think for ourselves.

]]> By: Phil http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-935028 Phil Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:31:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-935028 I think he means that if you don`t question your own thoughts, than you take them for the truth and dot overcome them. :-) I think he means that if you don`t question your own thoughts, than you take them for the truth and dot overcome them.

:-)

]]> By: Max Fortres http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-930556 Max Fortres Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:58:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-930556 Our loving govt has hired 26,000 of these pastors to spread ignorance and compliance to govt orders. The "Men of God" will soon be asking you to give up all firearms and go to the 800 FEMA Concentration Camps quietly. They will quote Romans 13 as God's will that you submit to the foreign invaders with the heavenly blue helmets. Don't worry about them stealing your stuff, raping your children or wife. The pastor will be looting along side them, he even might be driving your car or truck. You certainly won't be needing that shiny new bass boat, where you're going. Don't be free thinking now! Truth is treason, in the empire of lies. Our loving govt has hired 26,000 of these pastors to spread ignorance and compliance to govt orders. The "Men of God" will soon be asking you to give up all firearms and go to the 800 FEMA Concentration Camps quietly. They will quote Romans 13 as God's will that you submit to the foreign invaders with the heavenly blue helmets. Don't worry about them stealing your stuff, raping your children or wife. The pastor will be looting along side them, he even might be driving your car or truck. You certainly won't be needing that shiny new bass boat, where you're going. Don't be free thinking now! Truth is treason, in the empire of lies.

]]> By: bill http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-929582 bill Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:39:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-929582 Americans dummiest people on earth. This is living proof Americans dummiest people on earth. This is living proof

]]> By: C.R. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-928885 C.R. Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:34:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-928885 Religion IS the root of all evil. Religion IS the root of all evil.

]]> By: keredine http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-927755 keredine Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:18:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-927755 the people satan loves most and controls the best are christianand religious fanatics, because they are the easiest to take over control of, as presently the case in the USA. all evil has to do is take over the christian leadership(as it has already done) and the sheeple follows blindly into the abyss. god gave us the capacity to think and analyse as a weapon against being deceived. the people satan loves most and controls the best are christianand religious fanatics, because they are the easiest to take over control of, as presently the case in the USA.
all evil has to do is take over the christian leadership(as it has already done) and the sheeple follows blindly into the abyss. god gave us the capacity to think and analyse as a weapon against being deceived.

]]> By: Unholy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-927098 Unholy Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:20:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-927098 I was raised Christian but lately started loosing my faith. Its so funny when you sit in a room full of people with different religions and all claim to be right and think you belong in a place of eternal torture for not believing them. I honestly wish religion didn't exist, it causes me lots of emotional stress. Hopefully this will go away over time, but I feel like shit every time I think what if I'm wrong and will end up in hell, regardless whether I live a good life or not just because I noticed there is something wrong with this whole religious thing. Nowadays a priest raping kids and repenting will go to heaven, but if you read Harry Potter you burn in hell. What a joke, I feel sorry for this world. I was raised Christian but lately started loosing my faith. Its so funny when you sit in a room full of people with different religions and all claim to be right and think you belong in a place of eternal torture for not believing them.

I honestly wish religion didn't exist, it causes me lots of emotional stress. Hopefully this will go away over time, but I feel like shit every time I think what if I'm wrong and will end up in hell, regardless whether I live a good life or not just because I noticed there is something wrong with this whole religious thing.

Nowadays a priest raping kids and repenting will go to heaven, but if you read Harry Potter you burn in hell. What a joke, I feel sorry for this world.

]]> By: jw http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-925094 jw Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:19:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-925094 nice pic...I was brought up christian but I found out that even the king james version has been tampered with. I sought a teacher named Jordan Maxwell which you can google, and he taught some REAL truths about God, the bible, astro-theology, symbolism, and so forth. Very interesting stuff to say the least. I believe there is God, but it's not what we've been taught in bible study. nice pic...I was brought up christian but I found out that even the king james version has been tampered with. I sought a teacher named Jordan Maxwell which you can google, and he taught some REAL truths about God, the bible, astro-theology, symbolism, and so forth. Very interesting stuff to say the least. I believe there is God, but it's not what we've been taught in bible study.

]]> By: Kungfublood http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-924485 Kungfublood Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:32:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-924485 What the pastor meant was in order to tell people what to think you must charge them as he does and not give advice for free, or heaven forfend ,allow that every one should have a personal relationship to the divine and those who are free to do so are less craven than he is. What the pastor meant was in order to tell people what to think you must charge them as he does and not give advice for free, or heaven forfend ,allow that every one should have a personal relationship to the divine and those who are free to do so are less craven than he is.

]]> By: paulbe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-924463 paulbe Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:28:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-924463 christians and American christians are two completely different things. I have little time for christians and their stupidity as a rule but can tolerate them, on the other hand, American christians I prefer to think of simply as "the enemy". christians and American christians are two completely different things. I have little time for christians and their stupidity as a rule but can tolerate them, on the other hand, American christians I prefer to think of simply as "the enemy".

]]> By: Chimpeach http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-924029 Chimpeach Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:14:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-924029 Hey! They forgot to post the Kool-aid flavor of the month! Fuh-Q Farging Fuqs! Hey! They forgot to post the Kool-aid flavor of the month!

Fuh-Q Farging Fuqs!

]]> By: UnSabbath http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-923553 UnSabbath Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:58:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-923553 -This just proves what total f@#&ing morons these people are... boogeyman's gonna gitcha! -This just proves what total f@#&ing morons these people are... boogeyman's gonna gitcha!

]]> By: Jackson http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-923393 Jackson Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:36:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-923393 I'm a free thinker so kiss my a** religious freaks! I'm a free thinker so kiss my a** religious freaks!

]]> By: Ron http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-923296 Ron Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:25:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-923296 Oh my god ... more crap from all those jesus freaks, no wonder this country is f**ked. More than 70% of Americans don't use their brains anyway ... thanks to FOX and the like, they have been brain washed. If we stop for a minute and think, we would not be slaves to the big coorporations and lobbiests ... oh and to Israel, choosen people my foot! Oh my god ... more crap from all those jesus freaks, no wonder this country is f**ked. More than 70% of Americans don't use their brains anyway ... thanks to FOX and the like, they have been brain washed. If we stop for a minute and think, we would not be slaves to the big coorporations and lobbiests ... oh and to Israel, choosen people my foot!

]]> By: imp http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-923225 imp Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:16:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-923225 Speaking as a former Christian: Christians believe that the human ability to think is corrupted by powerful demonic influences. It's rather as if Satan had the power of hypnotic suggestion - that he can put thoughts in your head and make you think they're your own. The only protection that humans have against this influence is to have faith in Jesus Christ to deliver them. Otherwise, by breaking free of Jesus you become a slave to Satan. This spiritual condition might be seen as analogous to the physical situation of a child who thinks that once he gets free of his parents and runs away to the Big City, he will never again encounter people who will abuse and exploit him, and of course he is wrong. The analogy breaks down, however, in that while parents and unsavory members of the urban underclass exist, God and Satan do not. And while human reason is indeed corrupt, its corruption is nowhere more manifest than in the human propensity to embrace 'faith' as superior to reason. Speaking as a former Christian:

Christians believe that the human ability to think is corrupted by powerful demonic influences. It's rather as if Satan had the power of hypnotic suggestion - that he can put thoughts in your head and make you think they're your own.

The only protection that humans have against this influence is to have faith in Jesus Christ to deliver them. Otherwise, by breaking free of Jesus you become a slave to Satan.

This spiritual condition might be seen as analogous to the physical situation of a child who thinks that once he gets free of his parents and runs away to the Big City, he will never again encounter people who will abuse and exploit him, and of course he is wrong.

The analogy breaks down, however, in that while parents and unsavory members of the urban underclass exist, God and Satan do not. And while human reason is indeed corrupt, its corruption is nowhere more manifest than in the human propensity to embrace 'faith' as superior to reason.

]]> By: ijdavis http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-922761 ijdavis Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:20:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-922761 This raises an interesting theological question. Was Jesus a free thinker. Seems to me that the strongest evidence for the devil, is that fact that christians serve so willingly do evil. This raises an interesting theological question. Was Jesus a free thinker. Seems to me that the strongest
evidence for the devil, is that fact that christians serve so willingly do evil.

]]> By: Bud Bread http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-903269 Bud Bread Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:19:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-903269 I think he means that, like many Christers, he is an asshole. I think he means that, like many Christers, he is an asshole.

]]> By: malcreant http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-898519 malcreant Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:39:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-898519 I think it simply means aren't allowed to think freely if you want to get in good with god. I think it simply means aren't allowed to think freely if you want to get in good with god.

]]> By: bobby lightfoot http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-888004 bobby lightfoot Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:38:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-888004 Just think how much debate would be generated by a sign put up by some baptist snake handling wang with an I.Q. ABOVE 70!! Woah! the interweb sure does rock. Almost as much as amazing cell phones. I'm going to try to smoke more. Just think how much debate would be generated by a sign put up by some baptist snake handling wang with an I.Q. ABOVE 70!!

Woah!

the interweb sure does rock. Almost as much as amazing cell phones.

I'm going to try to smoke more.

]]> By: S http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/comment-page-2/#comment-882490 S Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:57:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/#comment-882490 er, I meant "elf" instead of "elves" in that last sentence. Damned free-floated godless elves of typos! er, I meant "elf" instead of "elves" in that last sentence. Damned free-floated godless elves of typos!

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