Comments on: Kids of Older Dads Have Increased Risk of Being Bipolar http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:31:18 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Blaze http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-890757 Blaze Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:15:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-890757 OK. thanks for the clarification. Was getting my info from my friend who is bi-polar, who described her teen years an being quite schizophrenic. I put them together because she and her dr did. OK. thanks for the clarification. Was getting my info from my friend who is bi-polar, who described her teen years an being quite schizophrenic. I put them together because she and her dr did.

]]> By: alice http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-879287 alice Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:51:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-879287 Hmm.. that gives me an idea for my dissertation. And yes, bi-polar ISN'T schizophrenia. (General) Bipolar symptoms: massive mood swings between deep depression and manic highs, (extremely manic highs can lead to delusions and hallucinations.) Schizophrenia symptoms: (postive) hallucinations- auditory and visual, delusions. (Negative) Lack of appetite, apathy, lack of motivation. Just wanted to clear that up. (Wiki it if you want to know more!) Hmm.. that gives me an idea for my dissertation.

And yes, bi-polar ISN'T schizophrenia.

(General) Bipolar symptoms: massive mood swings between deep depression and manic highs, (extremely manic highs can lead to delusions and hallucinations.)
Schizophrenia symptoms: (postive) hallucinations- auditory and visual, delusions. (Negative) Lack of appetite, apathy, lack of motivation.

Just wanted to clear that up. (Wiki it if you want to know more!)

]]> By: thordora http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-871922 thordora Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:09:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-871922 Funny...almost everyone I know, myself included, who has bipolar has young parents...I was RAISED by older parents though (adopted) so I wonder if that's meaningful...Not that antecdotal evidence means anything... Funny...almost everyone I know, myself included, who has bipolar has young parents...I was RAISED by older parents though (adopted) so I wonder if that's meaningful...Not that antecdotal evidence means anything...

]]> By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-870691 Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:15:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-870691 "There are no guarantees in life; a dad can get hit by a bus at 30 or can die in his sleep at 90." No, but kids don't generally worry about their 30-year-old father getting hit by a bus. But if he's 90, I think there's more likely to be questions about how long he's going to last. And I didn't mean to imply that this could CAUSE bi-polar disorder. All I meant was that the stress could certainly cause other emotional issues. Bi-polar disorder stems from something physical. Merely being worried about your old dad isn't going to cause it. "There are no guarantees in life; a dad can get hit by a bus at 30 or can die in his sleep at 90."

No, but kids don't generally worry about their 30-year-old father getting hit by a bus. But if he's 90, I think there's more likely to be questions about how long he's going to last.

And I didn't mean to imply that this could CAUSE bi-polar disorder. All I meant was that the stress could certainly cause other emotional issues. Bi-polar disorder stems from something physical. Merely being worried about your old dad isn't going to cause it.

]]> By: smak http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-869111 smak Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:07:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-869111 Silva, RTFA. It's not a dire as the snippet pulled out for Neatorama. Silva, RTFA. It's not a dire as the snippet pulled out for Neatorama.

]]> By: Moodindigo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-868260 Moodindigo Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:27:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-868260 Careful Tim, you're beginning to sound like Tom Cruise... Careful Tim, you're beginning to sound like Tom Cruise...

]]> By: Tim http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-866017 Tim Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:03:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-866017 Psychiatrists will stop at nothing to diagnose every living being and to drug and harm them as a result... Psychiatrists will stop at nothing to diagnose every living being and to drug and harm them as a result...

]]> By: murrtocrat http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-865660 murrtocrat Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:29:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-865660 (that's "bipolar is not equal to schizophrenia" if you can't make out the symbol) (that's "bipolar is not equal to schizophrenia" if you can't make out the symbol)

]]> By: murrtocrat http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-865658 murrtocrat Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:28:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-865658 quick fact check: bipolar?schizophrenia bipolar=manic depression carry on... quick fact check:

bipolar?schizophrenia
bipolar=manic depression

carry on...

]]> By: Blaze http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-865576 Blaze Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:08:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-865576 EEM - Bi-polar is schizophrenia. Just a more accurate name for the unwashed masses. As for seeing bi-polar symptoms earlier if the parents were older at conception, I'm gonna call BS on that. It all depends on brain chemistry, and when it changes during puberty. So unless dear old dad's genes are causing early puberty, there is no way to say that. I wonder if they are using date of DX or date of first symptoms. EEM - Bi-polar is schizophrenia. Just a more accurate name for the unwashed masses.

As for seeing bi-polar symptoms earlier if the parents were older at conception, I'm gonna call BS on that. It all depends on brain chemistry, and when it changes during puberty. So unless dear old dad's genes are causing early puberty, there is no way to say that. I wonder if they are using date of DX or date of first symptoms.

]]> By: Silva http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-865030 Silva Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:41:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-865030 This isn't good for me. Bi polar disorder runs on both sides of my family, and now I hear that because my dad was older when I was born (48), I'm at an even greater risk. Joy. I'm making an appointment to the shrink now, thanks. This isn't good for me. Bi polar disorder runs on both sides of my family, and now I hear that because my dad was older when I was born (48), I'm at an even greater risk. Joy. I'm making an appointment to the shrink now, thanks.

]]> By: smak http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-865017 smak Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:38:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-865017 There are no guarantees in life; a dad can get hit by a bus at 30 or can die in his sleep at 90. Correlation does not necessarily equal causation, people! There are no guarantees in life; a dad can get hit by a bus at 30 or can die in his sleep at 90.

Correlation does not necessarily equal causation, people!

]]> By: EEM http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-864948 EEM Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:19:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-864948 isn't that the case with schizophrenia as well? isn't that the case with schizophrenia as well?

]]> By: Terry http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-864788 Terry Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:25:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-864788 There's a new possible cause for bipolar published every week. None of them ever amount to anything. No lesion has ever been found for bipolar and no standard reliable lab test exists to identify the unknown cause. The use of antidepressants (and the side effects of mania) has seen the unreliable "labelling" by quacks of people as BP sky-rocketed. There's a new possible cause for bipolar published every week. None of them ever amount to anything. No lesion has ever been found for bipolar and no standard reliable lab test exists to identify the unknown cause.

The use of antidepressants (and the side effects of mania) has seen the unreliable "labelling" by quacks of people as BP sky-rocketed.

]]> By: sam http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-864522 sam Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:14:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-864522 no no - having bipolar kids just makes them FEEL like they're older due to an increased rate of aging. ;) no no - having bipolar kids just makes them FEEL like they're older due to an increased rate of aging. ;)

]]> By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/comment-page-1/#comment-864199 Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:41:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/02/kids-of-older-dads-have-increased-risk-of-being-bipolar/#comment-864199 It stands to reason. You're working with older genetic material, and more things can go wrong. Kids of old dads also have the added stress of wondering when dear ol' dad is going to pop his clogs. I would expect more emotional (and possibly mental) problems from that aspect alone. It stands to reason. You're working with older genetic material, and more things can go wrong.

Kids of old dads also have the added stress of wondering when dear ol' dad is going to pop his clogs. I would expect more emotional (and possibly mental) problems from that aspect alone.

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