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		<title>By: That Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1770504</link>
		<dc:creator>That Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or you can watch the movie/documentary &quot;What The Bleep Do We Know?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or you can watch the movie/documentary &#8220;What The Bleep Do We Know?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: That Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1769128</link>
		<dc:creator>That Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

if you believe that time is the 4th dimension or not this is still a video to watch. Everything is a dot.</description>
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<p>if you believe that time is the 4th dimension or not this is still a video to watch. Everything is a dot.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ from Peacehaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ from Peacehaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just goes to show, you can&#039;t be too careful.</description>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I found this site again, and remain unconvinced...

Time has no limits! It is impossible to multiply by something, i. e. x^4, because it would just turn into x^3 * infinity (basically, infinity)

I am not arguing that it is not a valid part of the space-time continuum and that they are not related in some way- but time is NOT a physical thing. It cannot be multiplied by anything!

Has anyone here seen &#039;Flatland&#039;? It&#039;s some really racially and sexually insensitive video we had to watch for math. It&#039;s about a two-dimensional world introduced to a three-dimensional world. It puts into perspective how impossible it is to imagine another dimension. Tesseracts help, but can anyone really imagine themselves in a fourth dimensional world? It is virtually impossible without a three-dimensional screen of sorts projecting this simulation of a fourth dimensional world, much as the glare on an sphere on a computer screen can make it look three-dimensional. However, we are only able to recognize this if we have seen this dimension before, so we can refer to it. Impossible!

Now: can you imagine time travel? OF COURSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I found this site again, and remain unconvinced&#8230;</p>
<p>Time has no limits! It is impossible to multiply by something, i. e. x^4, because it would just turn into x^3 * infinity (basically, infinity)</p>
<p>I am not arguing that it is not a valid part of the space-time continuum and that they are not related in some way- but time is NOT a physical thing. It cannot be multiplied by anything!</p>
<p>Has anyone here seen &#8216;Flatland&#8217;? It&#8217;s some really racially and sexually insensitive video we had to watch for math. It&#8217;s about a two-dimensional world introduced to a three-dimensional world. It puts into perspective how impossible it is to imagine another dimension. Tesseracts help, but can anyone really imagine themselves in a fourth dimensional world? It is virtually impossible without a three-dimensional screen of sorts projecting this simulation of a fourth dimensional world, much as the glare on an sphere on a computer screen can make it look three-dimensional. However, we are only able to recognize this if we have seen this dimension before, so we can refer to it. Impossible!</p>
<p>Now: can you imagine time travel? OF COURSE!</p>
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		<title>By: cezayir</title>
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		<dc:creator>cezayir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forgot the biggest hoaxes in which humanity has believed in huge numbers : religions ! now , of course , even if you have a religion you have to admit that at most only one can be true , the others are all big hoaxes , and of course you can choose to believe that they are all hoaxes , just like i do , i&#039;m amazed you forgot them !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forgot the biggest hoaxes in which humanity has believed in huge numbers : religions ! now , of course , even if you have a religion you have to admit that at most only one can be true , the others are all big hoaxes , and of course you can choose to believe that they are all hoaxes , just like i do , i&#8217;m amazed you forgot them !</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong delta. Here we go again:

&#916;x&#178; + &#916;y&#178; + &#916;z&#178; - c&#178;&#916;t&#178; = s&#178;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong delta. Here we go again:</p>
<p>&Delta;x&sup2; + &Delta;y&sup2; + &Delta;z&sup2; &#8211; c&sup2;&Delta;t&sup2; = s&sup2;</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-905542</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this will work better:

&#948;x&#178; + &#948;y&#178; + &#948;z&#178; - c&#178;&#948;t&#178; = s&#178;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this will work better:</p>
<p>&delta;x&sup2; + &delta;y&sup2; + &delta;z&sup2; &#8211; c&sup2;&delta;t&sup2; = s&sup2;</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-890422</link>
		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yea... i learned that.... hehe... shows how much i pay attention in math...

i still don&#039;t understand, though, how the speed of light has any relation to the dimensions, or prove it in any way. im sure that the idea has something to do with the fact that light is the fastest thing in the universe (i think), which i guess could make some sort of a vague connection, yet proving nothing significant about the dimensions...

whatever. school&#039;s started, and i have hw now. also, i really dont care about whatever the fourth dimension is. let it be light in ur opinion, but my opinion is still unswayed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yea&#8230; i learned that&#8230;. hehe&#8230; shows how much i pay attention in math&#8230;</p>
<p>i still don&#8217;t understand, though, how the speed of light has any relation to the dimensions, or prove it in any way. im sure that the idea has something to do with the fact that light is the fastest thing in the universe (i think), which i guess could make some sort of a vague connection, yet proving nothing significant about the dimensions&#8230;</p>
<p>whatever. school&#8217;s started, and i have hw now. also, i really dont care about whatever the fourth dimension is. let it be light in ur opinion, but my opinion is still unswayed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delta is a Greek letter that looks like a triangle. It&#039;s used by mathematicians to mean the change in a value.

Let&#039;s say that I moved from my computer chair to the couch. The change in distance is about 5 feet, so I could say that my delta x is 5 feet. Sometimes you&#039;ll hear people talk about delta-v, which is the change in velocity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delta is a Greek letter that looks like a triangle. It&#8217;s used by mathematicians to mean the change in a value.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that I moved from my computer chair to the couch. The change in distance is about 5 feet, so I could say that my delta x is 5 feet. Sometimes you&#8217;ll hear people talk about delta-v, which is the change in velocity.</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that makes more sense. but i just started geomentry (im in seventh grade, ppls) so idk wat delta is yet so i cant reply. just so long as it isn&#039;t velocity, it makes much more sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that makes more sense. but i just started geomentry (im in seventh grade, ppls) so idk wat delta is yet so i cant reply. just so long as it isn&#8217;t velocity, it makes much more sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That didn&#039;t come out very well. The &#039;?&#039; is a delta symbol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That didn&#8217;t come out very well. The &#8216;?&#8217; is a delta symbol.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some research, and the equation is like this:

(?x)^2 + (?y)^2 + (?z)^2 - (c^2)((?t)^2) = s^2

where x, y, and z are defined in meters.
where t is defined in seconds.
where c is the speed of light in meters/second
where s is a constant defined in meters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some research, and the equation is like this:</p>
<p>(?x)^2 + (?y)^2 + (?z)^2 &#8211; (c^2)((?t)^2) = s^2</p>
<p>where x, y, and z are defined in meters.<br />
where t is defined in seconds.<br />
where c is the speed of light in meters/second<br />
where s is a constant defined in meters</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and there would be time in a two-dimensional world, wouldn&#039;t there? yet no third dimension whatsoever. how does that alone not prove it? you can&#039;t skip a dimension!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and there would be time in a two-dimensional world, wouldn&#8217;t there? yet no third dimension whatsoever. how does that alone not prove it? you can&#8217;t skip a dimension!</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-865548</link>
		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t get how it makes any sense for there to be two different fourth dimensions. the spacial fourth dimension makes plently of sense to me, following the pattern of the dimensions, but I don&#039;t get how time has any relevence. following the mathematical pattern, x^4 (spacially) would have to equal x^4 (time-wise), which means than space would have to equal time, although they are measured in entirely different systems. if there was a way to measure time AND space seprately (as in not velocity) using the same system of measurement, this would make more sense, other than the fact that once the universe has something going (like the pattern of the first three dimensions), it usually doesnt stop. ever.

and if you were measuring the velocity along the time axis and the physical axixes (idk), the velocity along both axies (still idk) would need to include both time and physical measurement, thus comparing, thus being useless; as all would be the same, and come out with an equal or useless answer. also, what velocity is even being measured to acheive the speed of light? if it&#039;s light, that&#039;s just stupid and redundant. if its something else, please share! the only other relevant thing would be the time of the world itself and the natural course of things, which could not be accurately measured in physical space, velocity or not, or in time, because any measurement would be useless. time has no business in the dimensions! the only thing that concerns it is the speed of light, of which together have many affiliations which don&#039;t have a thing to do with the dimensions and space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t get how it makes any sense for there to be two different fourth dimensions. the spacial fourth dimension makes plently of sense to me, following the pattern of the dimensions, but I don&#8217;t get how time has any relevence. following the mathematical pattern, x^4 (spacially) would have to equal x^4 (time-wise), which means than space would have to equal time, although they are measured in entirely different systems. if there was a way to measure time AND space seprately (as in not velocity) using the same system of measurement, this would make more sense, other than the fact that once the universe has something going (like the pattern of the first three dimensions), it usually doesnt stop. ever.</p>
<p>and if you were measuring the velocity along the time axis and the physical axixes (idk), the velocity along both axies (still idk) would need to include both time and physical measurement, thus comparing, thus being useless; as all would be the same, and come out with an equal or useless answer. also, what velocity is even being measured to acheive the speed of light? if it&#8217;s light, that&#8217;s just stupid and redundant. if its something else, please share! the only other relevant thing would be the time of the world itself and the natural course of things, which could not be accurately measured in physical space, velocity or not, or in time, because any measurement would be useless. time has no business in the dimensions! the only thing that concerns it is the speed of light, of which together have many affiliations which don&#8217;t have a thing to do with the dimensions and space.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spacetime, which consists of 3 spatial dimensions and one complex time dimension, is &lt;i&gt;mathematically&lt;/i&gt; equivalent to a 4-dimensional space. And that 4-D model happens to imitate the real world. So we call time the 4th dimension.

If I recall correctly, there is a spacetime equality that goes something like this:
   x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - t^2 = c^2
where t is the velocity along the time axis, c is the speed of light, and x, y, and z are velocity along the axes for 3-D space.

Thus, as you go faster in physical space (x, y, and z), your speed along the time axis slows down. If you could somehow achieve the speed of light in 3-D space, time would literally stand still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spacetime, which consists of 3 spatial dimensions and one complex time dimension, is <i>mathematically</i> equivalent to a 4-dimensional space. And that 4-D model happens to imitate the real world. So we call time the 4th dimension.</p>
<p>If I recall correctly, there is a spacetime equality that goes something like this:<br />
   x^2 + y^2 + z^2 &#8211; t^2 = c^2<br />
where t is the velocity along the time axis, c is the speed of light, and x, y, and z are velocity along the axes for 3-D space.</p>
<p>Thus, as you go faster in physical space (x, y, and z), your speed along the time axis slows down. If you could somehow achieve the speed of light in 3-D space, time would literally stand still.</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Z_$--
 mass can bend space, gravity, and maybe time (idk, i 4got) because of this:

imagine space as a rubber sheet. of course, this is two dimensional (again with the dimensions; stick with me). everything in space (planets, asteriods, stars, ETC.) is an object on that stretched rubber sheet. denser or heavier objects will weigh it down, creating a funnel-type thing bringing it down. since small, dense objects (like a heavy marble) would bring it down more steeply, it would suck everything in (a black hole) in comparison to, say, a tennis ball, which probably has the same if not greater weight, but it is distributed. it would still bring stuff down, but since it is a more gentle slope, thing would go into more of an &quot;orbit&quot; around it (like our solar system). this depression in the rubber sheet is gravity. since the two dimensional sheet is bending down into the third dimension, three-dimensional objects would rely on gravity in the fourth dimension (whoop-dee-doo). and, supporting my comments before, GRAVITY IS NOT A RESULT OF TIME. it is a result of fourth-dimensional depressions in a three-dimensional world. remember, if you were a two-dimensional shape on this rubber sheet, you wouldn&#039;t be aware of the depression at all except for the gravity increase. make any sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z_$&#8211;<br />
 mass can bend space, gravity, and maybe time (idk, i 4got) because of this:</p>
<p>imagine space as a rubber sheet. of course, this is two dimensional (again with the dimensions; stick with me). everything in space (planets, asteriods, stars, ETC.) is an object on that stretched rubber sheet. denser or heavier objects will weigh it down, creating a funnel-type thing bringing it down. since small, dense objects (like a heavy marble) would bring it down more steeply, it would suck everything in (a black hole) in comparison to, say, a tennis ball, which probably has the same if not greater weight, but it is distributed. it would still bring stuff down, but since it is a more gentle slope, thing would go into more of an &#8220;orbit&#8221; around it (like our solar system). this depression in the rubber sheet is gravity. since the two dimensional sheet is bending down into the third dimension, three-dimensional objects would rely on gravity in the fourth dimension (whoop-dee-doo). and, supporting my comments before, GRAVITY IS NOT A RESULT OF TIME. it is a result of fourth-dimensional depressions in a three-dimensional world. remember, if you were a two-dimensional shape on this rubber sheet, you wouldn&#8217;t be aware of the depression at all except for the gravity increase. make any sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-865039</link>
		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only reason that people have explained otherwise is because they need an explanation for the inexplainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only reason that people have explained otherwise is because they need an explanation for the inexplainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-865034</link>
		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey! i was an angry sixth grader last year. and by the fact that we can percieve moving through time, it is NOT the fourth dimension. using a second dimension living &quot;shape&quot; as perspective point, (for all those who have seen flatland) it is impossible to imagine the third dimension for them. it would be impossible to imagine our world multiplying by itself in a matter of spacial properties for our inferior eyes and mind. as you might have realized (by the math aspect of dimensions) 1 dimension is x, 2 is x*x, and so on. so if the fourth dimension would equal a space of x^4, this rules out time, as it would increase the space infinetly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey! i was an angry sixth grader last year. and by the fact that we can percieve moving through time, it is NOT the fourth dimension. using a second dimension living &#8220;shape&#8221; as perspective point, (for all those who have seen flatland) it is impossible to imagine the third dimension for them. it would be impossible to imagine our world multiplying by itself in a matter of spacial properties for our inferior eyes and mind. as you might have realized (by the math aspect of dimensions) 1 dimension is x, 2 is x*x, and so on. so if the fourth dimension would equal a space of x^4, this rules out time, as it would increase the space infinetly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can has forth demension?

You made me do it Lord Jereth.</description>
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<p>You made me do it Lord Jereth.</p>
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		<title>By: Z_$</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z_$</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a general idea of how Einstein said that mass could bend space and that it affects gravity(I think, I saw it on some show). How does matter bent time? and for that matter, just explain quantum phisics in laymans terms to me. I have the brain of a two-year old.</description>
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		<title>By: Lord_Jereth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord_Jereth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait ... hold up .... did I read these comments correctly?

My gawd! An actual, intellectual debate in a comments section on the internet? That&#039;s unheard of! What is this world coming to?

No flames? No &quot;ghey&quot; bashing? No devolved commentary about lineage or racial slurs? No &quot;FIRST&quot; posts, lolcats references, bot spam or l33t sp34k??

You mean there&#039;s actually people on the internet in possession of a brain who can calmly and quietly discuss an issue without instantly sounding like a bunch of angry sixth graders, hiding behind the anonymity of their parent&#039;s computers to attack the world with their brand of sandbox &quot;wit&quot; and &quot;wisdom&quot;?

I&#039;m shocked and appalled! Has the universe suddenly gone mad ... again? Where have you all been hiding for the last ten years?

Well done! I think I actually learned something from the comments! Will wonders never cease!

LJ</description>
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<p>My gawd! An actual, intellectual debate in a comments section on the internet? That&#8217;s unheard of! What is this world coming to?</p>
<p>No flames? No &#8220;ghey&#8221; bashing? No devolved commentary about lineage or racial slurs? No &#8220;FIRST&#8221; posts, lolcats references, bot spam or l33t sp34k??</p>
<p>You mean there&#8217;s actually people on the internet in possession of a brain who can calmly and quietly discuss an issue without instantly sounding like a bunch of angry sixth graders, hiding behind the anonymity of their parent&#8217;s computers to attack the world with their brand of sandbox &#8220;wit&#8221; and &#8220;wisdom&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m shocked and appalled! Has the universe suddenly gone mad &#8230; again? Where have you all been hiding for the last ten years?</p>
<p>Well done! I think I actually learned something from the comments! Will wonders never cease!</p>
<p>LJ</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Dollak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Dollak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Horhay and Horgay (obviously a &quot;flame name,&quot; that latter one)...

There may or may not be other spatial dimensions in addition to the three we can perceive.  This is something physics has explored for a very long time, and the existence of additional dimensions would explain some of the more puzzling aspects of quantum physics and String Theory, as well as others.

Before quantum physics came along, three dimensions of space were all that was known to exist.  Einstein&#039;s equations, which often dealt with gravitational or relativistic distortions in both space AND time, show that (mathematically at least) time can be factored into such equations as if it were another dimension of space.  This does not mean that time is made of matter as we understand it --- but it turns out that a powerful, space-bending gravitational field also &quot;bends&quot; time.  Later, quantum physics treated time as if it could be pared down into quanta, and the term &quot;tachyon,&quot; popularized in time-travel episodes of &quot;Star Trek: TNG,&quot; was coined.

So, while there may also be a 4th spatial dimension, we tend to regard time as a 4th dimension too.

It&#039;s also been proposed that time itself may have more than one &quot;dimension&quot; to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Horhay and Horgay (obviously a &#8220;flame name,&#8221; that latter one)&#8230;</p>
<p>There may or may not be other spatial dimensions in addition to the three we can perceive.  This is something physics has explored for a very long time, and the existence of additional dimensions would explain some of the more puzzling aspects of quantum physics and String Theory, as well as others.</p>
<p>Before quantum physics came along, three dimensions of space were all that was known to exist.  Einstein&#8217;s equations, which often dealt with gravitational or relativistic distortions in both space AND time, show that (mathematically at least) time can be factored into such equations as if it were another dimension of space.  This does not mean that time is made of matter as we understand it &#8212; but it turns out that a powerful, space-bending gravitational field also &#8220;bends&#8221; time.  Later, quantum physics treated time as if it could be pared down into quanta, and the term &#8220;tachyon,&#8221; popularized in time-travel episodes of &#8220;Star Trek: TNG,&#8221; was coined.</p>
<p>So, while there may also be a 4th spatial dimension, we tend to regard time as a 4th dimension too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also been proposed that time itself may have more than one &#8220;dimension&#8221; to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Horgay</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-859675</link>
		<dc:creator>Horgay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horhay:
You are an idiot.

The fourth dimension as time

    Main article: Spacetime

Usually, when a reference is made to four-dimensional coordinates, it is the temporal interpretation which is meant. In this case, the four coordinates are understood to represent 3 dimensions of space plus 1 dimension of time. Such a space is called a Poincaré space, Minkowski space, or &quot;(3 + 1)-space&quot;,[1] and is the space used in Einstein&#039;s theories of special relativity and general relativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horhay:<br />
You are an idiot.</p>
<p>The fourth dimension as time</p>
<p>    Main article: Spacetime</p>
<p>Usually, when a reference is made to four-dimensional coordinates, it is the temporal interpretation which is meant. In this case, the four coordinates are understood to represent 3 dimensions of space plus 1 dimension of time. Such a space is called a Poincaré space, Minkowski space, or &#8220;(3 + 1)-space&#8221;,[1] and is the space used in Einstein&#8217;s theories of special relativity and general relativity.</p>
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		<title>By: Horhay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horhay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m sorry, is time physical now? It&#039;s not, therefore it cannot be the fourth dimension. Technically speaking, the fourth dimension could never be correctly imagined by humans, therefore, we could never know what the fourth dimension is unless we went into the fourth dimension and our vision was replaced or evolved somehow so we could see in four dimensions. Imagine if you lived in two dimensions-- you would have no concept of up; so we cannot have any concept of whatever directional equivalent the fourth dimension is. So ha, Sam Dios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m sorry, is time physical now? It&#8217;s not, therefore it cannot be the fourth dimension. Technically speaking, the fourth dimension could never be correctly imagined by humans, therefore, we could never know what the fourth dimension is unless we went into the fourth dimension and our vision was replaced or evolved somehow so we could see in four dimensions. Imagine if you lived in two dimensions&#8211; you would have no concept of up; so we cannot have any concept of whatever directional equivalent the fourth dimension is. So ha, Sam Dios.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mythbusters did a show on the &quot;Woman impregnated by bullet&quot; and busted it. They were able to show that the multiple layers of clothes worn during that time would have been too thick for the bullet to have hit and penetrated both people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mythbusters did a show on the &#8220;Woman impregnated by bullet&#8221; and busted it. They were able to show that the multiple layers of clothes worn during that time would have been too thick for the bullet to have hit and penetrated both people.</p>
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		<title>By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neatoramawontsendmeapassword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudolph Fentz: the John Titor of the 1950s?

I like the one about the bullet making the woman pregnant.  It&#039;s so absurd it&#039;s funny.</description>
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<p>I like the one about the bullet making the woman pregnant.  It&#8217;s so absurd it&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read Jack Finney&#039;s time travel novels - very good stories.  

Some of these hoaxes are so far fetched, it&#039;s hard to believe people fell for them.  I guess that&#039;s why the Nigerian spammers are still in business.  Gullability is timeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read Jack Finney&#8217;s time travel novels &#8211; very good stories.  </p>
<p>Some of these hoaxes are so far fetched, it&#8217;s hard to believe people fell for them.  I guess that&#8217;s why the Nigerian spammers are still in business.  Gullability is timeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the moon one.  More proof that humans are pretty much hard-wired to believe anything they hear once their imagination kicks in.</description>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difference is Deadeye Dick didn&#039;t impregnate the woman with that bullet.</description>
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		<title>By: StacyBee</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-851545</link>
		<dc:creator>StacyBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Cy... guess I didn&#039;t think that sentence out :)  changed to &quot;images&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Cy&#8230; guess I didn&#8217;t think that sentence out <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   changed to &#8220;images&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: choggie</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-849979</link>
		<dc:creator>choggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ruse with the bullet n&#039; baby??....Vonnegut used that theme in his book, &quot;Deadeye Dick&quot;....The protag shot a gun for the first time in his life, having been surrounded by guns growing up (father&#039;s collection) and hit a pregnant lady a couple miles away!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That ruse with the bullet n&#8217; baby??&#8230;.Vonnegut used that theme in his book, &#8220;Deadeye Dick&#8221;&#8230;.The protag shot a gun for the first time in his life, having been surrounded by guns growing up (father&#8217;s collection) and hit a pregnant lady a couple miles away!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Dios</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-848881</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Dios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way, there is a fourth dimenson, which is actually time, no matter if time travelling is possible or not :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way, there is a fourth dimenson, which is actually time, no matter if time travelling is possible or not <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam Dios</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/30/six-more-hoaxes-that-fooled-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-848838</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Dios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well cy here is the original text on the fake Linné butterflies. This happens when people don&#039;t think about what they write carefully. I guess there were no photos, but drawn pictures in Linné&#039;s book.

Source: museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Hoaxipedia/Butterflies_of_Linnaeus/

&quot;The three butterflies shown to the right were part of the collection of the great eighteenth-century naturalist Carl Linnaeus. In 1763 he named and described all three of them in the twelfth edition of his Systema Naturae. However, only one of them was a real butterfly.

Linnaeus named the middle butterfly Papilio rhamni. It is a common butterfly in Europe, where it is better known as the Brimstone.

Linnaeus wrote that the other two butterflies were examples of a North American species, Papilio ecclipsis. In fact, all three butterflies are European brimstones. The top and bottom insects have simply had patches carefully painted on their wings. In other words, the Papilio ecclipsis is a hoax species.

This deception was uncovered in the nineteenth century by John Curtis, the author of many books about insects. It is not known who painted the patches on the wings of the butterflies. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well cy here is the original text on the fake Linné butterflies. This happens when people don&#8217;t think about what they write carefully. I guess there were no photos, but drawn pictures in Linné&#8217;s book.</p>
<p>Source: museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Hoaxipedia/Butterflies_of_Linnaeus/</p>
<p>&#8220;The three butterflies shown to the right were part of the collection of the great eighteenth-century naturalist Carl Linnaeus. In 1763 he named and described all three of them in the twelfth edition of his Systema Naturae. However, only one of them was a real butterfly.</p>
<p>Linnaeus named the middle butterfly Papilio rhamni. It is a common butterfly in Europe, where it is better known as the Brimstone.</p>
<p>Linnaeus wrote that the other two butterflies were examples of a North American species, Papilio ecclipsis. In fact, all three butterflies are European brimstones. The top and bottom insects have simply had patches carefully painted on their wings. In other words, the Papilio ecclipsis is a hoax species.</p>
<p>This deception was uncovered in the nineteenth century by John Curtis, the author of many books about insects. It is not known who painted the patches on the wings of the butterflies. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: cy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... so Linnaeus had access to photography in 1763 and all he did was publish fake photos in his book? What? Shouldn&#039;t he have capitalized on his access to color photography some 100 years before we know of the existence of the first working daguerreotypes? Just wondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; so Linnaeus had access to photography in 1763 and all he did was publish fake photos in his book? What? Shouldn&#8217;t he have capitalized on his access to color photography some 100 years before we know of the existence of the first working daguerreotypes? Just wondering&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;guess that’s why the Weekly World News can still be found in the checkout racks at the grocery store&quot;

actually WWN is no longer published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;guess that’s why the Weekly World News can still be found in the checkout racks at the grocery store&#8221;</p>
<p>actually WWN is no longer published.</p>
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