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By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:00 +0000

Ok moon, I will clearify.

This union listed is corrupted. Just like ever union I have ever heard off. If I run across an honest union, I'll let you know.

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:30:34 +0000

All corporations must be corrupt, too, using your analysis. Dennis Koslowski was corrupt, so ALL corporations are corrupt. Right? Isn't that your theory?

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:28:45 +0000

No, this story is about ONE union. And from that, you extrapolated to "unions are all corrupt" with the aid of your right wing, corporate, anti-union web site.

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:57:46 +0000

Yeah that's the idea, if you can't attack the message, attack the messenger!

Corporate CEO do need to suffer in hell a lot longer, but this is about Union and many years of being corrupt.

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:54:00 +0000

At least you can assume you aren't getting the WHOLE story.

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:52:52 +0000

Also, if we put down all the corporate CEOs who wasted money on BS like this, we'd have a list a mile long. Remember the $5,000 shower curtain? Dennis Koslowski? Tyco International?

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:51:29 +0000

Didn't know about the right wing connection. I guess it means it's not true, right?

I don't care where the TRUTH comes from, it is still true.

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:47:31 +0000

Just so you know, the person who runs UnionFacts.com, Sarah Longwell, is also the spokesperson for Conservative Network, not a big fan of unions. It's more right wing crap from Conservative Network, whose big stars are Ann Coulter, Michele Malkin, Laura Ingraham, etc.

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:42:06 +0000

Jimbo, you're an expert because??

You read some kind of corporate sponsored, anti-union, web site??

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:16:25 +0000

Correction BONG water

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:16:03 +0000

Moon, you need to stop drinking the bonk water. Unions hurt this country, and that is a fact jack!

By: Moon

Moon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:21:27 +0000

Geez, the O'Reilly Factor viewers are out today, aren't they? ALL unions are corrupt, eh??

Sheesh. What a bunch of ill-informed nonsense.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:04:46 +0000

Unions had their place, about 100 years ago. Now the only thing they're good for is raising any given employer's cost of doing business by a significant percentage. If it weren't for the corrupt union bosses like this bozo, that money could very well be going into the pockets of the workers instead. I worked one unionized job in my entire life, and that was only for 7.5 hours -- didn't even finish my shift, the job was so crappy. I live in a right-to-work state, but when I balked at signing the union card, I was visited by some very large coworkers and strongly encouraged to put my doubts aside. "Rocking the boat" on my first day would not be in my best interest. In the end I signed, and was durned lucky to even get a dime for my trouble that one day. Oh, and the others that were hired that same day but didn't have the sense to walk out ended up being laid off two weeks later. Some union.

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:30:28 +0000

should have got to Cut. Its better than Morton's

By: Evil Pundit

Evil Pundit — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:45:23 +0000

Australian unions are all corrupt too.

Can you name any union that isn't corrupt?

By: Polx

Polx — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:50:56 +0000

Unions are all corrupt?

Bullsh*t.

American Unions may well be, but keep your comments about Unions in general to yourself.

By: Jefferson

Jefferson — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:36:32 +0000

Isn't that Bunk from The Wire?

By: Rogerebert

Rogerebert — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:04:23 +0000

This is an example of why unions have failed Americas. We want to believe that someone is fighting for worker rights, but in the end it is everyman for himself.

Democrats pay too much tribute to these organizations that have not been able to keep the jobs here or raise the living wage. Instead they are dinosaur that has not been told of their demise.

By: Peeves

Peeves — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:36:44 +0000

Yeah it's all power. But before I worked a minimum wage union job I had no idea how sleazy unions were. They were supposed to be why it's ok to work a low-wage job. But in most cases, at least in our recent economy, union fees are high compared to the protections they negotiate with the employer.

Example: Cashier for a large grocery? Be expected to get paid minimum wage, maybe 10 cents more, get very little hours, watch while management brings in a group of 10 or more people every month, see your hours go even lower, get no benefits of course (you don't work enough hours) and see your paychecks get hit with a $150 initiation fee. $150 for a person getting paid minimum wage and not getting enough hours to even think about getting health care on their own. Unions are lousy when they could be so much better. Oh, and this is Local 881.

By: mu

mu — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:26:07 +0000

Governments, corporations, and any other power structure you care to name are also corrupt. Power attracts the corruptible.

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:59:18 +0000

Nothing new here, unions are all corrupt.

http://www.unionfacts.com/