Comments on: The CERN black hole http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/ The Neat Side of the Web Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:44:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: m8cct http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-1766587 m8cct Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:35:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-1766587 This video doesn't take Hawking Radiation into account, among many other things...A black hole with the mass of an atom would exist for about 5x10^-97 seconds before it evaporated. I don't know that it could gather enough mass from the Earth to stay alive long enough to kill us all, imagine how tiny the event horizon of the Black Hole would be, it definitely couldn't eat up matter at that sort of rate. I'd have to run the math, but the chance of a black hole being created is basically impossible and the chances of a black hole eating anything IS impossible, as far as I can tell. This video doesn't take Hawking Radiation into account, among many other things...A black hole with the mass of an atom would exist for about 5x10^-97 seconds before it evaporated. I don't know that it could gather enough mass from the Earth to stay alive long enough to kill us all, imagine how tiny the event horizon of the Black Hole would be, it definitely couldn't eat up matter at that sort of rate. I'd have to run the math, but the chance of a black hole being created is basically impossible and the chances of a black hole eating anything IS impossible, as far as I can tell.

]]> By: lianna http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-1752799 lianna Wed, 27 May 2009 19:33:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-1752799 Well, I really don't know if the world will end this way or not What about the sun exploding in 100 years? It's an educational video though. It's important to open our eyes up sometimes if nothing else, even if it's only a possibility. I always thought that the black hole was out in space someplace, and they've said we're too far from it anyways for this to happen Well, I really don't know if the world will end this way or not What about the sun exploding in 100 years?

It's an educational video though. It's important to open our eyes up sometimes if nothing else, even if it's only a possibility. I always thought that the black hole was out in space someplace, and they've said we're too far from it anyways for this to happen

]]> By: Mitch http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-1256378 Mitch Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:15:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-1256378 There was opinion offered that the first fission and fusion explosions would ignite the entire atmosphere of the planet and kill all our grandpas and grandmas. Evidently, grams and gramps survived. We could shut down CERN and go live in it, like a cave.... There was opinion offered that the first fission and fusion explosions would ignite the entire atmosphere of the planet and kill all our grandpas and grandmas. Evidently, grams and gramps survived.
We could shut down CERN and go live in it, like a cave....

]]> By: Anthony http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-1077127 Anthony Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:12:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-1077127 okay thats bullshit... first of all thats not what would happen. our fucking planet wouldnt open from the top. it will break peices of the planet andand the black hole will suck it all up to nothing. and you dont have to worry because when they do this experiment in december 2008 it will be fine... there not gonna do a project that could possabliy destroy human race. fuck nutss. there is way more energy in this world then that fucking experiment to do something called the black hole... and even if it did the black hole will only stay for a billionth of a billionth of a second so dont be scared of this experipment. okay thats bullshit... first of all thats not what would happen. our fucking planet wouldnt open from the top. it will break peices of the planet andand the black hole will suck it all up to nothing. and you dont have to worry because when they do this experiment in december 2008 it will be fine... there not gonna do a project that could possabliy destroy human race. fuck nutss. there is way more energy in this world then that fucking experiment to do something called the black hole... and even if it did the black hole will only stay for a billionth of a billionth of a second so dont be scared of this experipment.

]]> By: igla http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-972490 igla Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:53:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-972490 OMG WE GO NA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMG WE GO NA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

]]> By: Libber Rose http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-951360 Libber Rose Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:42:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-951360 Hello I think it was great, except you could at least have ended it thanking your sponsors. Hello

I think it was great, except you could at least have ended it thanking your sponsors.

]]> By: gwhitebeard http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-931403 gwhitebeard Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:05:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-931403 Well, the singularity that occurs will not be anti-matter which would neutralize and destroy itself when contacting matter. So it would only grow larger and denser and heavier particle by particle, until the result you see becomes reality. Only thing is the speed with which it will proceed would be measeured in nanoseconds. Bye Bye. Well, the singularity that occurs will not be anti-matter which would neutralize and destroy itself when contacting matter. So it would only grow larger and denser and heavier particle by particle, until the result you see becomes reality. Only thing is the speed with which it will proceed would be measeured in nanoseconds. Bye Bye.

]]> By: Darren http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-929635 Darren Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:48:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-929635 The odds of something happening are irrelevant to me. If all goes to plan then everyone is happy - champagne is drunk and 'woo hoo' for CERN and break out all the Nobel Prizes. However, if it goes horribly wrong and it's 'Ooops - that wasn't s'posed to happen' then it's not exactly something that can be undone, is it? Massive black-hole consuming all and time to kiss our asses goodbye - if we have to time to do so, that is. I don't think there will be a disaster movie on it...... Ultimately, there is no practical use for this. OK, we could have a greater understanding of the universe but, so what??? There are a few thoughts already on things like this - 'only fools rush in' or 'can we or should we' and as far as I am concerned if there is a risk - irrespective of how small - even if there's 100 googal squared of a chance that we can blow ourselves up (or suck ourselves in????) then this whole thing should be stopped. As no one can ever reassure me otherwise - and never will - especially as nothing good will be achieved from it, then, time to pull the plug. In the future, if our lives depended on its success, then go ahead - we're doomed anyway. However, as this is not the case, is it really, really, really worth to 'potentially end life as we know it' if it the 'Oops' scenario occurs. I say not. The odds of something happening are irrelevant to me.

If all goes to plan then everyone is happy - champagne is drunk and 'woo hoo' for CERN and break out all the Nobel Prizes.

However, if it goes horribly wrong and it's 'Ooops - that wasn't s'posed to happen' then it's not exactly something that can be undone, is it? Massive black-hole consuming all and time to kiss our asses goodbye - if we have to time to do so, that is. I don't think there will be a disaster movie on it......

Ultimately, there is no practical use for this.

OK, we could have a greater understanding of the universe but, so what???

There are a few thoughts already on things like this - 'only fools rush in' or 'can we or should we' and as far as I am concerned if there is a risk - irrespective of how small - even if there's 100 googal squared of a chance that we can blow ourselves up (or suck ourselves in????) then this whole thing should be stopped.

As no one can ever reassure me otherwise - and never will - especially as nothing good will be achieved from it, then, time to pull the plug.

In the future, if our lives depended on its success, then go ahead - we're doomed anyway.

However, as this is not the case, is it really, really, really worth to 'potentially end life as we know it' if it the 'Oops' scenario occurs.

I say not.

]]> By: weaponsguru http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-925537 weaponsguru Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:35:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-925537 Oh well - it's 0834 BST & we're still here! Only 4 hours to go until the broomstick lands :-( Don't suppose anyone knows if there is a hurricane on its way towards the South Coast of England do they? Oh well - it's 0834 BST & we're still here!
Only 4 hours to go until the broomstick lands :-(

Don't suppose anyone knows if there is a hurricane on its way towards the South Coast of England do they?

]]> By: lowliferider http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-918786 lowliferider Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:04:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-918786 If it was that dangerous, why have not seen any demonstration or manifestation in the front gates at CERN (I know, I work there as a technician) We (at CERN) have a great understanding of what is going to happen, but we laugh at all religious freaks that think it’s the end of the world (to all of you freaks, why are you just sitting behind your PC and post unfounded crap? Did you read ANGELS AND DEMONS by Dan Brown? It’s a great book it has a few mistakes about CERN but its close, and yes we do have and produce anti matter.) One last thing to all the religious freaks, in your book (the bible) Jesus would be back to save us all again? What are you worried about? Maybe it’s time to confess your sins, repent yourself in the name of …. (who ever you believe in). If it was that dangerous, why have not seen any demonstration or manifestation in the front gates at CERN (I know, I work there as a technician) We (at CERN) have a great understanding of what is going to happen, but we laugh at all religious freaks that think it’s the end of the world (to all of you freaks, why are you just sitting behind your PC and post unfounded crap? Did you read ANGELS AND DEMONS by Dan Brown? It’s a great book it has a few mistakes about CERN but its close, and yes we do have and produce anti matter.) One last thing to all the religious freaks, in your book (the bible) Jesus would be back to save us all again? What are you worried about? Maybe it’s time to confess your sins, repent yourself in the name of …. (who ever you believe in).

]]> By: weaponsguru http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-917909 weaponsguru Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:38:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-917909 I for one would welcome the end of the world. My Mother-in-law is flying in from Scotland tomorrow (she doesn't need a plane, just somewhere to park her broom!). I could die happy knowing (albeit very briefly) that she was not going to enjoy her week of moaning about my house / everything that I do!!! I for one would welcome the end of the world. My Mother-in-law is flying in from Scotland tomorrow (she doesn't need a plane, just somewhere to park her broom!).
I could die happy knowing (albeit very briefly) that she was not going to enjoy her week of moaning about my house / everything that I do!!!

]]> By: Granturista http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-840885 Granturista Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:49:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-840885 That's me flushing the toilet. That's me flushing the toilet.

]]> By: sam http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-834685 sam Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:28:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-834685 Oh I forgot to mention that there is also a roughly 10^-40 chance that all the air in the room you're sitting in right now suddenly decide to re-align themselves to the end of the room away from you. Nothing is impossible, just highly improbable. Oh I forgot to mention that there is also a roughly 10^-40 chance that all the air in the room you're sitting in right now suddenly decide to re-align themselves to the end of the room away from you.

Nothing is impossible, just highly improbable.

]]> By: sam http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-834662 sam Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:25:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-834662 First of all, to correct someone else - a black hole would indeed move to the center of the earth - but it would keep moving until it comes out (or almost comes out) on the other end. It would swing back and forth like a pendulum until finally coming to rest in the center. Also, it would be black. You wouldn't be able to see what was going on because the light would not make it to your eyes - it would be sucked into the black hole. There is a roughly 10^-40 to 1 chance that this will happen. That number looks like this: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 cheers! First of all, to correct someone else - a black hole would indeed move to the center of the earth - but it would keep moving until it comes out (or almost comes out) on the other end. It would swing back and forth like a pendulum until finally coming to rest in the center.

Also, it would be black. You wouldn't be able to see what was going on because the light would not make it to your eyes - it would be sucked into the black hole.

There is a roughly 10^-40 to 1 chance that this will happen. That number looks like this:

10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

cheers!

]]> By: Adam Stanhope http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-827566 Adam Stanhope Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:46:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-827566 Trivia question... Who said, "I've got a hole in me pocket." ? Trivia question...

Who said, "I've got a hole in me pocket." ?

]]> By: Millertime http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-827498 Millertime Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:34:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-827498 Did anyone read that Larry Niven story where a guy commits murder with a micro-black hole? There's an interesting analysis in it of how a tiny black hole would eat a planet. The story starts, "One day, Mars will be gone." This was before, I think, Hawking realized that smaller black holes evaporate pretty quickly. Did anyone read that Larry Niven story where a guy commits murder with a micro-black hole? There's an interesting analysis in it of how a tiny black hole would eat a planet. The story starts, "One day, Mars will be gone." This was before, I think, Hawking realized that smaller black holes evaporate pretty quickly.

]]> By: Some Canadian Skeptic http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-827397 Some Canadian Skeptic Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:18:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-827397 So I said, "Super Collider? I just met her!" So I said, "Super Collider? I just met her!"

]]> By: dgaicun http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-826680 dgaicun Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:15:40 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-826680 Now THAT'S the biggest, baddest sinkhole on Earth. Now THAT'S the biggest, baddest sinkhole on Earth.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-826161 ted Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:44:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-826161 Those Mayans must have gotten their dates mixed up. This is supposed to happen in 2012. As for hard science - I stopped taking science in school because it was too hard. I much prefer the easy science. Those Mayans must have gotten their dates mixed up. This is supposed to happen in 2012.

As for hard science - I stopped taking science in school because it was too hard. I much prefer the easy science.

]]> By: MrPumpernickel http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-824999 MrPumpernickel Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:27:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-824999 I'm going to laugh so hard if this really happens. What else is there to do really? I'm going to laugh so hard if this really happens. What else is there to do really?

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-824842 Christophe Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:59:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-824842 The problem is not the black hole / CERN theory. It's just that it was a post from Adam : even a rather innocent post from him is driving people crazy ;) I bet there is a Facebook group named 'I hate Adam Stanhope and makes sure I'm posting some harsh comments' ;p Sorry Adam ;) and you know anyway I'll be one of the firsts to go, living only 3h30 away from Geneva! The problem is not the black hole / CERN theory. It's just that it was a post from Adam : even a rather innocent post from him is driving people crazy ;)
I bet there is a Facebook group named 'I hate Adam Stanhope and makes sure I'm posting some harsh comments' ;p

Sorry Adam ;)
and you know anyway I'll be one of the firsts to go, living only 3h30 away from Geneva!

]]> By: artbot http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-823592 artbot Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:07:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-823592 Screw science! It's time for Michael Bay's "LHC Collider" Terra-ists have taken over the LHC, set off a nuke, and using the operator's manual you downloaded off the net (http://www.iop.org/EJ/journal/-page=extra.lhc/jinst), you single-handedly save the world from the terra-ists! As the the ginormous explosion expands (in slow-mo), you (manually) switch on the black hole generator and suck the explosion backwards into another dimension and save the earth. Problem is, the explosion is actually zapped to an inhabited planet in another dimension, and the Pan-Dimensionalites mount a retaliatory attack on the Earth. Our hero then modifies the LHC (paying careful attention to the manual) into a (large) hand-held weapon and single-handedly fends off the alien invasion by shooting miniature black holes at them. Yes, I’m working on my “Best Screenplay” acceptance speech right now. Screw science! It's time for Michael Bay's "LHC Collider"

Terra-ists have taken over the LHC, set off a nuke, and using the operator's manual you downloaded off the net (http://www.iop.org/EJ/journal/-page=extra.lhc/jinst), you single-handedly save the world from the terra-ists!

As the the ginormous explosion expands (in slow-mo), you (manually) switch on the black hole generator and suck the explosion backwards into another dimension and save the earth.

Problem is, the explosion is actually zapped to an inhabited planet in another dimension, and the Pan-Dimensionalites mount a retaliatory attack on the Earth. Our hero then modifies the LHC (paying careful attention to the manual) into a (large) hand-held weapon and single-handedly fends off the alien invasion by shooting miniature black holes at them.

Yes, I’m working on my “Best Screenplay” acceptance speech right now.

]]> By: Xinavera http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-823590 Xinavera Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:07:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-823590 Look, it's obviously ridiculous scientifically. But it's a video of the earth getting sucked into a black hole. That's neat isn't it? Spend 38 seconds enjoying the cool visuals and move on with your day. Thanks, Adam, for putting this up (and putting up with cantankerous readers). Look, it's obviously ridiculous scientifically. But it's a video of the earth getting sucked into a black hole. That's neat isn't it? Spend 38 seconds enjoying the cool visuals and move on with your day. Thanks, Adam, for putting this up (and putting up with cantankerous readers).

]]> By: elGordo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-823250 elGordo Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:06:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-823250 Ah screw it. I'm going to go with the assumption this thing is going to kill us all next month so I'm off to the Ferarri dealership. Ah screw it. I'm going to go with the assumption this thing is going to kill us all next month so I'm off to the Ferarri dealership.

]]> By: Zeke http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-823154 Zeke Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:47:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-823154 Look, here's the deal. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY this will happen. See, the energies the LHC is producing are occuring NATURALLY, EVERY DAY when the earth is struck by high-energy gamma rays. If this sort of thing were going to happen in the LHC, it would have ALREADY HAPPEND NATURALLY. So please, people, put down the crack pipe and let the scientists do their stuff so we can more fully understand the universe. Look, here's the deal. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY this will happen. See, the energies the LHC is producing are occuring NATURALLY, EVERY DAY when the earth is struck by high-energy gamma rays. If this sort of thing were going to happen in the LHC, it would have ALREADY HAPPEND NATURALLY.

So please, people, put down the crack pipe and let the scientists do their stuff so we can more fully understand the universe.

]]> By: Neelex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-822945 Neelex Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:06:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-822945 I, for one, welcome our wormhole aliens overlords I, for one, welcome our wormhole aliens overlords

]]> By: xadrian http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-822845 xadrian Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:48:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-822845 CERN and the LHC has basically been built to prove what the math has already theorized, and the math hasn't theorized making black holes. It's funny, about a decade ago it was anti-matter blowing up the Earth, now it's black holes swallowing us up. *forehead slap* CERN and the LHC has basically been built to prove what the math has already theorized, and the math hasn't theorized making black holes.

It's funny, about a decade ago it was anti-matter blowing up the Earth, now it's black holes swallowing us up. *forehead slap*

]]> By: Orjan Morjan http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-822606 Orjan Morjan Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:07:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-822606 I would be worried if they said they are trying to create small black holes. They are not. I would be worried if they said they are trying to create small black holes.

They are not.

]]> By: Adam Stanhope http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-822580 Adam Stanhope Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:04:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-822580 Kate: I posted the video and I certainly don't think that the LHC is going to create the black hole depicted in the video and cause the entire earth to be consumed in less than 38 seconds. This is a topic that has been <a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/14/dudes-sue-the-large-hadron-collider-to-stop-total-world-annihilation/" rel="nofollow">covered here in the past</a> with a bit of humor. It is in <a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2006/09/24/scientists-mini-bangs-dangerous-nah/" rel="nofollow">that vein</a> that this post appears today. Kate:

I posted the video and I certainly don't think that the LHC is going to create the black hole depicted in the video and cause the entire earth to be consumed in less than 38 seconds.

This is a topic that has been covered here in the past with a bit of humor. It is in that vein that this post appears today.

]]> By: Kid Kaz http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-822489 Kid Kaz Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:51:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/27/the-cern-black-hole/#comment-822489 It will cause sound in space!!!! It will cause sound in space!!!!

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