Comments on: Sheriff Sentences Self to Jail to Find Out How It Feels Like http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:15:55 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Nick http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-832738 Nick Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:22:48 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-832738 One Sheriff I'd like to see try this is Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. His program of housing prisoners in military style tents, feeding them the cheapest food possible, and dressing them in stripes and pink underwear are very popular with his non-convicted constituents and apparently have not been ruled constitutional. One Sheriff I'd like to see try this is Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. His program of housing prisoners in military style tents, feeding them the cheapest food possible, and dressing them in stripes and pink underwear are very popular with his non-convicted constituents and apparently have not been ruled constitutional.

]]> By: Tom Beirne http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-832417 Tom Beirne Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:34:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-832417 I help out in the Chaplain's office of a correctional facility with Scripture and discharge planning. After release, arranging for employment, decent housing, AA/NA counseling, and fellowship meetings attended by mentors and mentees together to resolve problems and pray. Mostly Christian but faith based. The most rewarding aspect is when these men decide to give back and mentor to those leaving prison in fear as they were--addressing the mind, body, and Spirit. I help out in the Chaplain's office of a correctional facility with Scripture and discharge planning. After release, arranging for employment, decent housing, AA/NA counseling, and fellowship meetings attended by mentors and mentees together to resolve problems and pray. Mostly Christian but faith based. The most rewarding aspect is when these men decide to give back and mentor to those leaving prison in fear as they were--addressing the mind, body, and Spirit.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-816794 Thomas Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:31:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-816794 I gotta say, spending the night in the pokey isn't fun, and I hope to not do it again any time soon. Most people feel that you deserve whatever you get in jail, and don't realize that it becomes a dehumanizing experience, not a corrective one. I gotta say, spending the night in the pokey isn't fun, and I hope to not do it again any time soon. Most people feel that you deserve whatever you get in jail, and don't realize that it becomes a dehumanizing experience, not a corrective one.

]]> By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-816617 Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:00:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-816617 Would you rather have a sheriff who doesn't have any idea what your situation is like... or one who might have a bit of an idea because he's put himself in his prisoners' shoes? Now if we could just get politicians to temporarily live on the salaries of their constituents and doctors to spend time in their own hospitals, we'd be well on the way to creating more empathy in society. Would you rather have a sheriff who doesn't have any idea what your situation is like... or one who might have a bit of an idea because he's put himself in his prisoners' shoes?

Now if we could just get politicians to temporarily live on the salaries of their constituents and doctors to spend time in their own hospitals, we'd be well on the way to creating more empathy in society.

]]> By: Juan Motaim http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-812316 Juan Motaim Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:36:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-812316 This guy sounds like he's on the road to true empathy with the inmates, which is always in short supply in our correctional system. With that said, while he's receiving a government paycheck, it's pretty unconstitutional for him personally to bring religion into his workplace. (I know there are a lot of religious outreach programs in our prisons, and as long as access is fair and equal for all, that can be a good opportunity for the inmates. But when tax dollars pay the salaries of the people running them, that's totally different.) Look at it this way -- if his Malachi program were about readings from The Qur'an, rather than The Bible, he'd likely be booted out of office pretty quickly, and the article in Newsweek would be all about that. This guy sounds like he's on the road to true empathy with the inmates, which is always in short supply in our correctional system.

With that said, while he's receiving a government paycheck, it's pretty unconstitutional for him personally to bring religion into his workplace. (I know there are a lot of religious outreach programs in our prisons, and as long as access is fair and equal for all, that can be a good opportunity for the inmates. But when tax dollars pay the salaries of the people running them, that's totally different.)

Look at it this way -- if his Malachi program were about readings from The Qur'an, rather than The Bible, he'd likely be booted out of office pretty quickly, and the article in Newsweek would be all about that.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-811949 Alex Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:37:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-811949 Halt, grammar Nazi sympathizer! ;) Halt, grammar Nazi sympathizer! ;)

]]> By: Gladeye http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-811833 Gladeye Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:03:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-811833 Bah. Anyone who values good grammar or spelling gets mocked as a grammar nazi. I'd be embarrassed to write a caption like that. I wonder how it feels like for the guy who wrote this one. Bah. Anyone who values good grammar or spelling gets mocked as a grammar nazi. I'd be embarrassed to write a caption like that. I wonder how it feels like for the guy who wrote this one.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-811135 ted Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:33:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-811135 Exactly, Tim. It's just PR. So why do it? He's showboating. Exactly, Tim.
It's just PR.

So why do it? He's showboating.

]]> By: lucky http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810963 lucky Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:40:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810963 i like the story...and dave...it makes me smile that you corrected things...and alex...your statement made me laugh out loud to my cat (cause no one else is home) i like the story...and dave...it makes me smile that you corrected things...and alex...your statement made me laugh out loud to my cat (cause no one else is home)

]]> By: Peeves http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810834 Peeves Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:09:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810834 I think the real experience is really what it's like when they're not in actual jail. I live in Lake County and it really is segregated. If he wants to know what it's like to be his inmates the closest he'll get is living on the average wage and in the average apt, etc. I think the real experience is really what it's like when they're not in actual jail. I live in Lake County and it really is segregated. If he wants to know what it's like to be his inmates the closest he'll get is living on the average wage and in the average apt, etc.

]]> By: Tim http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810676 Tim Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:33:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810676 ted, I think he was pretty clear that he knows his experience does not represent the average inmate's experience. Katahrine, you must know something that wasn't stated in the article, because I don't see where it says that the inmates are required to participate in his program. ted, I think he was pretty clear that he knows his experience does not represent the average inmate's experience.

Katahrine, you must know something that wasn't stated in the article, because I don't see where it says that the inmates are required to participate in his program.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810562 ted Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:07:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810562 Dude makes $140,000/yr. Does he really think he's going to "connect" with prisoners by letting them watch him take a dump? Dude makes $140,000/yr. Does he really think he's going to "connect" with prisoners by letting them watch him take a dump?

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810509 Alex Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:57:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810509 Halt, grammar Nazi! :) Halt, grammar Nazi! :)

]]> By: Dave http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810431 Dave Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:41:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810431 Sorry to pick nits, but "Find Out How It Feels Like"???? How about "Find Out How It Feels", or perhaps "Find Out What It Feels Like". The way it is sounds a bit redundant and repetitive. Not to mention redundant. @Katharine: It sounds like only those who attend his Malachi program are required to read the Bible, but the program doesn't sound mandatory. And if you'd take the time to research other Christian groups that reach out to inmates you'll find some amazing success stories about how their attendees' recidivism rates are a fraction of the national average. http://www.pfm.org/ http://www.billglasscfl.org/ Sorry to pick nits, but "Find Out How It Feels Like"???? How about "Find Out How It Feels", or perhaps "Find Out What It Feels Like". The way it is sounds a bit redundant and repetitive. Not to mention redundant.

@Katharine: It sounds like only those who attend his Malachi program are required to read the Bible, but the program doesn't sound mandatory. And if you'd take the time to research other Christian groups that reach out to inmates you'll find some amazing success stories about how their attendees' recidivism rates are a fraction of the national average.
http://www.pfm.org/
http://www.billglasscfl.org/

]]> By: Katharine http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-810302 Katharine Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:11:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-810302 I find it disgusting that he's making them read the Bible. Not everyone in the United States is Christian. I find it disgusting that he's making them read the Bible. Not everyone in the United States is Christian.

]]> By: Jood42 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/comment-page-1/#comment-809629 Jood42 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:45:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/26/sheriff-sentences-self-to-jail-to-find-out-how-it-feels-like/#comment-809629 I am so glad I voted for him. I am so glad I voted for him.

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