Comments on: You Don't Need It http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:07:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jane http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-754871 jane Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:39:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-754871 The advertiser who rented the space probably doesn't care a whit about said sticker. Folks who want their product are going to purchase it anyway. Now the property owner who has to either spend half an hour with a razor blade and goo-gone to remove the sticker (or pay someone to) is probably going to feel otherwise. The advertiser who rented the space probably doesn't care a whit about said sticker. Folks who want their product are going to purchase it anyway. Now the property owner who has to either spend half an hour with a razor blade and goo-gone to remove the sticker (or pay someone to) is probably going to feel otherwise.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-753626 ted Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:31:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-753626 When I look at all the home-made, illegal ads taped, pasted, and stapled to streetlamps and walls, it's a lot worse than billboard advertising. This sticker is just more garbage. When I look at all the home-made, illegal ads taped, pasted, and stapled to streetlamps and walls, it's a lot worse than billboard advertising.

This sticker is just more garbage.

]]> By: Ben B. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-752317 Ben B. Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:56:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-752317 It's vandalism. The ad company paid for that space; the little "you don't need it" sticker is a parasite, using the moneys paid by the ad company to give you a message they've not paid for. Regardless of the truth (or relevance) of the parasitic message, the basic issue here is property rights, not what the ad says. You want to tell people they don't need stuff? Fine. Buy an ad. It's vandalism. The ad company paid for that space; the little "you don't need it" sticker is a parasite, using the moneys paid by the ad company to give you a message they've not paid for.

Regardless of the truth (or relevance) of the parasitic message, the basic issue here is property rights, not what the ad says. You want to tell people they don't need stuff? Fine. Buy an ad.

]]> By: Carl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-749457 Carl Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:17:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-749457 Companies pay people like me to make them look good. Yet I'm all for the people having a voice back to bring reality and dialogue back into the equation. This subtle subversive reality check is fantastic. Companies pay people like me to make them look good. Yet I'm all for the people having a voice back to bring reality and dialogue back into the equation. This subtle subversive reality check is fantastic.

]]> By: Fake Jake http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-748384 Fake Jake Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:19:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-748384 Just because something is a 'crime' doesn't make it wrong, and just because something is 'paid for' doesn't make it right. To all you people defending the companies 'rights', maybe you should look at what crimes these companies have committed. Sweatshops, false advertising, environmental destruction... I only support the rights of non-criminal enterprises. Just because something is a 'crime' doesn't make it wrong, and just because something is 'paid for' doesn't make it right.

To all you people defending the companies 'rights', maybe you should look at what crimes these companies have committed. Sweatshops, false advertising, environmental destruction... I only support the rights of non-criminal enterprises.

]]> By: sparge http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-748286 sparge Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:27:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-748286 Where can I buy one of those stickers? Where can I buy one of those stickers?

]]> By: Mohammed http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-748259 Mohammed Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:17:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-748259 Plain and simple, it's vandalism. Just because someone put a sticker on an ipod advertisement doesn't mean people aren't going to buy it. It's the person choice as to what he needs or doesn't need. I use my ipod daily, on the commute to and from work, working out, going running, listening to it around the house. It is almost irreplaceable to me. I don't like the concept, we all know the world is materialistic, one man putting stickers on advertisements isn't going to change that. Plain and simple, it's vandalism. Just because someone put a sticker on an ipod advertisement doesn't mean people aren't going to buy it. It's the person choice as to what he needs or doesn't need. I use my ipod daily, on the commute to and from work, working out, going running, listening to it around the house. It is almost irreplaceable to me. I don't like the concept, we all know the world is materialistic, one man putting stickers on advertisements isn't going to change that.

]]> By: Anti-Authoritarian http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-2/#comment-747979 Anti-Authoritarian Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:09:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-747979 Your face is visually polluting the space I live in (the city). I didn't ask to see your face. I would LOVE to be able to walk down the street and not have your face shoved in my face. I don't give a rat's ass if you "paid" for the house you live in here. I applaud this effort. In fact, I'm going to get some paper bags! ****** What kind of bubble to you live in to think the world around you exists for your personal visual satisfaction? If all people are equal, then they have equal rights to purchase space and use it as they please. Even for advertisement. You're no better than them -- how dare you dictate what they do with their own property? If they tried to control *your* property, you'd be up in arms. A double standard if ever there was one. Your face is visually polluting the space I live in (the city). I didn't ask to see your face. I would LOVE to be able to walk down the street and not have your face shoved in my face. I don't give a rat's ass if you "paid" for the house you live in here.

I applaud this effort. In fact, I'm going to get some paper bags!

******

What kind of bubble to you live in to think the world around you exists for your personal visual satisfaction? If all people are equal, then they have equal rights to purchase space and use it as they please. Even for advertisement. You're no better than them -- how dare you dictate what they do with their own property? If they tried to control *your* property, you'd be up in arms. A double standard if ever there was one.

]]> By: gryt http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-747892 gryt Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-747892 The advertisers are visually polluting the space I live in (the city). I didn't ask for that. I would LOVE to be able to walk down the street and not have these visuals shoved in my face. I don't give a rat's ass if they 'paid' for the ad space. I applaud this effort. In fact, I'm gonna get me some stickers! The advertisers are visually polluting the space I live in (the city). I didn't ask for that. I would LOVE to be able to walk down the street and not have these visuals shoved in my face. I don't give a rat's ass if they 'paid' for the ad space.

I applaud this effort. In fact, I'm gonna get me some stickers!

]]> By: X-Shark http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-747776 X-Shark Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:35:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-747776 In order for something to be vandalism and hold up in law it needs to be more than temporary. He is not damaging the add in any permanent or semi permanent way. In order for something to be vandalism and hold up in law it needs to be more than temporary. He is not damaging the add in any permanent or semi permanent way.

]]> By: David B http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-747381 David B Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:47:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-747381 I remove graffiti for a living and stickers of any kind when placed on someone else's property is vandalism and vandalism is a crime. It's just that simple. I remove graffiti for a living and stickers of any kind when placed on someone else's property is vandalism and vandalism is a crime. It's just that simple.

]]> By: rubken http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-747093 rubken Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:18:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-747093 I agree that this kind of message mostly preaches to the choir. The split of opinion in this comment thread shows that. From the middle of the baritone section, I don't buy that because companies have paid for advertising space they have a right to have their adverts completely unobstructed all the time. By that measure advertisers should apply for a partial refund and we'd all be fine again. They could set up cameras trained on every billboard in the world and corporations accounts with the billboard owners could be credited every time anyone stands in front of their poster. Advertising exists to get us to buy stuff we don't need. If we needed it we would find it ourselves. We are now confronted with a wall of unwanted commercial messages in most towns and cities. All this redundant junk costs money and resources to produce. Perhaps it could be better employed elsewhere? I agree that this kind of message mostly preaches to the choir. The split of opinion in this comment thread shows that.
From the middle of the baritone section, I don't buy that because companies have paid for advertising space they have a right to have their adverts completely unobstructed all the time. By that measure advertisers should apply for a partial refund and we'd all be fine again. They could set up cameras trained on every billboard in the world and corporations accounts with the billboard owners could be credited every time anyone stands in front of their poster.
Advertising exists to get us to buy stuff we don't need. If we needed it we would find it ourselves. We are now confronted with a wall of unwanted commercial messages in most towns and cities. All this redundant junk costs money and resources to produce. Perhaps it could be better employed elsewhere?

]]> By: MoonCake http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-747073 MoonCake Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:50:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-747073 i agree with AJ, here. it's definitely preaching to the choir. i am very anti-consumerism, so the sticker speaks to me and gets me to do that "hell yea!" thing while punching my fist in the air. but those people who actually ENJOY buying needless crap, they have every right to do so. it's their money. the only time i am willing to step in and say something is when that needless consumerism effects me, like this whole mortgage crisis. although i know it's the fault of the banks here, had people actually thought about what their money was paying for (interest, mostly) we may not have this huge of a problem. people are smart enough to say 'no' to credit cards, and they are smart enough to say 'no' to needless crap. but some aren't, and we have to hold their hands-- THAT is when it is bullshit. i agree with AJ, here. it's definitely preaching to the choir. i am very anti-consumerism, so the sticker speaks to me and gets me to do that "hell yea!" thing while punching my fist in the air. but those people who actually ENJOY buying needless crap, they have every right to do so. it's their money. the only time i am willing to step in and say something is when that needless consumerism effects me, like this whole mortgage crisis. although i know it's the fault of the banks here, had people actually thought about what their money was paying for (interest, mostly) we may not have this huge of a problem. people are smart enough to say 'no' to credit cards, and they are smart enough to say 'no' to needless crap. but some aren't, and we have to hold their hands-- THAT is when it is bullshit.

]]> By: Artifex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746954 Artifex Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:18:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746954 I don't need > To be told what I don't need. The ads and windowspace may be an eyesore, but they're less of an eyesore than those stickers. Also, as others have stated, it's vandalism. It doesn't matter how long it is up there, or how hard it is to remove. I don't need > To be told what I don't need.

The ads and windowspace may be an eyesore, but they're less of an eyesore than those stickers.

Also, as others have stated, it's vandalism. It doesn't matter how long it is up there, or how hard it is to remove.

]]> By: Moodindigo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746946 Moodindigo Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:10:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746946 @ Angstrom and Terry et al. I agree. I hate seeing ads everywhere I look and applaud anyone's attempt; lame, patronising, ineffectual and pointless to many that it may well be to reclaim just a little of my visual landscape from advertisers. I don't care how much they paid for that ad. Screw them. @ Angstrom and Terry et al.

I agree. I hate seeing ads everywhere I look and applaud anyone's attempt; lame, patronising, ineffectual and pointless to many that it may well be to reclaim just a little of my visual landscape from advertisers. I don't care how much they paid for that ad. Screw them.

]]> By: Johnny Cat http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746901 Johnny Cat Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:04:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746901 YOU DON'T NEED IT ---> Thomas's beer. Wow that was easy. and stupid. YOU DON'T NEED IT ---> Thomas's beer.

Wow that was easy. and stupid.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746892 Thomas Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:57:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746892 Sticker or no, I'm not buying anything I don't need unless its beer. Sticker or no, I'm not buying anything I don't need unless its beer.

]]> By: Terry http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746820 Terry Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:40:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746820 Anything that snaps people out of their zombot consumer trance gets the thumbs up from me. Anything that snaps people out of their zombot consumer trance gets the thumbs up from me.

]]> By: prophet http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746756 prophet Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:18:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746756 I think they are subversive art and vandalism also. I think they are subversive art and vandalism also.

]]> By: John Schonchin http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746706 John Schonchin Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:54:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746706 By your logic Angstrom, if I don't like how you look, you are vandalizing my retina with your face when you walk down the street in my presence. The obvious solution is for everyone to wear blinders on our eyes and navigate with guide dogs because we can't be bothered with reality. By your logic Angstrom, if I don't like how you look, you are vandalizing my retina with your face when you walk down the street in my presence. The obvious solution is for everyone to wear blinders on our eyes and navigate with guide dogs because we can't be bothered with reality.

]]> By: Johnny Cat http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746656 Johnny Cat Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:32:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746656 Great point, Shannon. It's not only vandalism, it's self-promotion disguised as a movement, disguised as a message. It's not cool, kids. I don't care if your adhesive is green and doesn't leave a carbon footprint. It's wrong, and shame on those that support this kind of communication. If we were living in a perfect world... Great point, Shannon.

It's not only vandalism, it's self-promotion disguised as a movement, disguised as a message. It's not cool, kids. I don't care if your adhesive is green and doesn't leave a carbon footprint. It's wrong, and shame on those that support this kind of communication. If we were living in a perfect world...

]]> By: Martha Allen http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746637 Martha Allen Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:22:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746637 You don't need an ipod. You don't need an ipod.

]]> By: Chakolate http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746629 Chakolate Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:19:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746629 It seems very arrogant to me - and patronizing. Do these people seriously think that anyone believes they *need* an iPod? I know I don't need one. I also know I don't want one. Neither the original advert nor the addendum is worthwhile. It seems very arrogant to me - and patronizing. Do these people seriously think that anyone believes they *need* an iPod? I know I don't need one. I also know I don't want one. Neither the original advert nor the addendum is worthwhile.

]]> By: Dave http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746607 Dave Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:11:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746607 Vandalism? Not necessarily. It all depends on how aggressive the adhesive is and what the label is made of. If done right, it'd peel right off. And if done right, it'd be there forever. Vandalism? Not necessarily. It all depends on how aggressive the adhesive is and what the label is made of. If done right, it'd peel right off. And if done right, it'd be there forever.

]]> By: Diaz http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746538 Diaz Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:36:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746538 You don't need to read Neatorama. You don't need to read Neatorama.

]]> By: Daz http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746450 Daz Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:04:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746450 What would happen if somebody stuck a "you don't need it sticker" on another "you don't need it" sticker? Black hole implosion? What would happen if somebody stuck a "you don't need it sticker" on another "you don't need it" sticker?
Black hole implosion?

]]> By: Shannon http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746400 Shannon Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:55:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746400 http://antiadvertisingagency.com/promote-aaa Can no one see the delicious irony in this? http://antiadvertisingagency.com/promote-aaa

Can no one see the delicious irony in this?

]]> By: Angstrom http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746370 Angstrom Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:23:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746370 neither advertisers nor vandals pay ME for putting their visuals in my face. I don't want to see adverts on the street. It's my choice if I want to rent my retina out, not someone who decided they own my retinal space. Advertisers are vandalising my retina with their ugly words and strange messages. neither advertisers nor vandals pay ME for putting their visuals in my face. I don't want to see adverts on the street.

It's my choice if I want to rent my retina out, not someone who decided they own my retinal space.

Advertisers are vandalising my retina with their ugly words and strange messages.

]]> By: The Slapster http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746311 The Slapster Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:52:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746311 You wanna see sticker vandalism? http://www.flickr.com/photos/stickerking/sets/72157601707648957/ This guy (or group of wanna-be artists) has been plastering every light pole, newspaper box, mailbox and pretty much flat surface in a 30 mile radius lately. Is this the new cool thing? They don't even have the talent of many graffiti artists, it's a joke. You wanna see sticker vandalism?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stickerking/sets/72157601707648957/

This guy (or group of wanna-be artists) has been plastering every light pole, newspaper box, mailbox and pretty much flat surface in a 30 mile radius lately.

Is this the new cool thing? They don't even have the talent of many graffiti artists, it's a joke.

]]> By: V http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/comment-page-1/#comment-746310 V Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:50:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/14/you-dont-need-it/#comment-746310 Go Bubble Project! ;) .- Go Bubble Project!

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