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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-780279</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i retract the statement about the cinch back. the ebay picture shows them. oh and also that pair only has one back pocket, typical from that era.</description>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-780179</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems somewhat legit. it has the buttons for suspenders, no belt loops (those didnt come till a few decades later), from what you can see there are studs for buttons on the back waist also which means it predates the cinch back, the left leg shows some twisting (which usually happened to earlier makes of levis), one of the earliest surviving pair of 501s are from 1901 and this is found in cali nonetheless. they actually did have sizes back then but fit smaller by todays standards. eg a pair of 501s from 1947 that are w32 l34 would translate to a w30 l33 today (i have a pair of deadstock repo 1947s). referring to the coin pocket, its not actually a coin pocket but a watch pocket. having that said it&#039;s either these are very very good repos from that time period or its the real deal.
levis is actually know for buying back vintage capital E era jeans so they can display them in their museum.
i used to work for levis, that&#039;s how i know all this needless info. it does seem legit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems somewhat legit. it has the buttons for suspenders, no belt loops (those didnt come till a few decades later), from what you can see there are studs for buttons on the back waist also which means it predates the cinch back, the left leg shows some twisting (which usually happened to earlier makes of levis), one of the earliest surviving pair of 501s are from 1901 and this is found in cali nonetheless. they actually did have sizes back then but fit smaller by todays standards. eg a pair of 501s from 1947 that are w32 l34 would translate to a w30 l33 today (i have a pair of deadstock repo 1947s). referring to the coin pocket, its not actually a coin pocket but a watch pocket. having that said it's either these are very very good repos from that time period or its the real deal.<br />
levis is actually know for buying back vintage capital E era jeans so they can display them in their museum.<br />
i used to work for levis, that's how i know all this needless info. it does seem legit</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-701182</link>
		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´m with bean here. Pure advertising.</description>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-692703</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pocket in the front right was not a &quot;coin pocket&quot;, but a watch pocket - a place to put your pocket watch.

Miners went without pants all the time in the mines - like steel workers, they worked hard and they played hard.

I doubt the story. They may have &quot;found&quot; them in the mine, but that doesn&#039;t mean they didn&#039;t place them there themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pocket in the front right was not a "coin pocket", but a watch pocket - a place to put your pocket watch.</p>
<p>Miners went without pants all the time in the mines - like steel workers, they worked hard and they played hard.</p>
<p>I doubt the story. They may have "found" them in the mine, but that doesn't mean they didn't place them there themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: 69VWBus</title>
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		<dc:creator>69VWBus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  They&#039;re my size!!</description>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-689475</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ lisa

It was quite common for miners to strip down to the bare essentials due to the heat underground.  However, I could be just stating the norm and these pantless miners were just getting loopy from a gas pocket down there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lisa</p>
<p>It was quite common for miners to strip down to the bare essentials due to the heat underground.  However, I could be just stating the norm and these pantless miners were just getting loopy from a gas pocket down there.</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
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		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah. no pants. candle-wax. what&#039;s going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah. no pants. candle-wax. what's going on?</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are all these miners losing their pants in the mines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are all these miners losing their pants in the mines?</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
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		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those copper rivets look pretty un-corroded for a 100 year stint in the dirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those copper rivets look pretty un-corroded for a 100 year stint in the dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W34? I&#039;m out.</description>
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		<title>By: SenorMysterioso</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just look at the picture and you can tell they are not that old.  

Trust me, I think some of the hand-me-downs I&#039;ve had to wear were at least 100 years old and I wish they were that stylish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just look at the picture and you can tell they are not that old.  </p>
<p>Trust me, I think some of the hand-me-downs I've had to wear were at least 100 years old and I wish they were that stylish</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-688098</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their was also a gunny sack...&quot;

Nice grammar there.  Ebay is a trip sometimes.</description>
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<p>Nice grammar there.  Ebay is a trip sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: the man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Levi company bids on these often and attempts to drive the price upwards. Eventually they win the bid and right off the expense by &quot;donating&quot; the jeans to their own Levi&#039;s Blue Jean Museum and calling the whole thing a charitable donation when in fact it is just done for the free advertisement. 

 If you doubt this ask yourself why these jeans keep popping up from mines (seven or eight of them by my count) and not from the closets of people. I was able to find a 1920&#039;s jean jacket in my great grandfather&#039;s clothes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Levi company bids on these often and attempts to drive the price upwards. Eventually they win the bid and right off the expense by "donating" the jeans to their own Levi's Blue Jean Museum and calling the whole thing a charitable donation when in fact it is just done for the free advertisement. </p>
<p> If you doubt this ask yourself why these jeans keep popping up from mines (seven or eight of them by my count) and not from the closets of people. I was able to find a 1920's jean jacket in my great grandfather's clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: wcf</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe that story, see seller&#039;s other auction: a fine old bridge in New York City.</description>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my doubts when I saw &quot;They are covered in candlewax from the &lt;b&gt;candle’s&lt;/b&gt; the miner was using to light the tunnel he was working in.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my doubts when I saw "They are covered in candlewax from the <b>candle’s</b> the miner was using to light the tunnel he was working in."</p>
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		<title>By: JEM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just looks a little suspicious to me. I know they are supposed to have been found in the dirt, but if they are what the seller claims them to be, is it wise to display them ON dirt?  (I&#039;m assuming this is not the mine they were pulled out of.)  Antique texiles are pretty fragile and laying them out on the dirty ground, in full sunlight is NOT the way to conserve the fabric.  Anyone who watches Antique Roadshow - even on casual basis - would know this, and would be running to the nearest expert in fabric conservation!
With an item like this, I&#039;d sure like to see a LOT more detailed pictures.

Also, wasn&#039;t there something on TV recently about antique Levis?  Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just looks a little suspicious to me. I know they are supposed to have been found in the dirt, but if they are what the seller claims them to be, is it wise to display them ON dirt?  (I'm assuming this is not the mine they were pulled out of.)  Antique texiles are pretty fragile and laying them out on the dirty ground, in full sunlight is NOT the way to conserve the fabric.  Anyone who watches Antique Roadshow - even on casual basis - would know this, and would be running to the nearest expert in fabric conservation!<br />
With an item like this, I'd sure like to see a LOT more detailed pictures.</p>
<p>Also, wasn't there something on TV recently about antique Levis?  Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: Peeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lister doesn&#039;t really provide much information regarding authenticity or how they got from his neighbor&#039;s hands to his..but since this is a really popular listing you&#039;d think Levi&#039;s would have spoken up about it if they know they didn&#039;t produce anything like this in the 1890&#039;s. But I&#039;m suspicious that the wording of the listing is one of those &#039;you actually were bidding on a picture of an iPhone&#039; scams..like it&#039;s the bag that&#039;s the 1890&#039;s piece..not the jeans (because he doesn&#039;t actually know or because he does know they&#039;re fake).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lister doesn't really provide much information regarding authenticity or how they got from his neighbor's hands to his..but since this is a really popular listing you'd think Levi's would have spoken up about it if they know they didn't produce anything like this in the 1890's. But I'm suspicious that the wording of the listing is one of those 'you actually were bidding on a picture of an iPhone' scams..like it's the bag that's the 1890's piece..not the jeans (because he doesn't actually know or because he does know they're fake).</p>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-687730</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this continues to prove why I will not buy a pair of jeans with rips, scuffs, or bleached areas just to look like I&#039;ve worn them out.  Buy a decent pair...work and play in them then you&#039;ll get that worn look you pay over $45 for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this continues to prove why I will not buy a pair of jeans with rips, scuffs, or bleached areas just to look like I've worn them out.  Buy a decent pair...work and play in them then you'll get that worn look you pay over $45 for.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those would make some bitchin&#039; cutoffs.</description>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/29/vintage-levis/comment-page-1/#comment-687696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fluke!

Wikipedia says: &quot;Although the company began producing denim overalls in the 1870s, modern jeans were not produced until the 1920s.&quot;

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fluke!</p>
<p>Wikipedia says: "Although the company began producing denim overalls in the 1870s, modern jeans were not produced until the 1920s."</p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi</a>'s</p>
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		<title>By: Gail Pink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail Pink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their was also a gunny sack...&quot;
You&#039;d think they&#039;d at least check for typos before printing that blurb. Gee wiz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Their was also a gunny sack..."<br />
You'd think they'd at least check for typos before printing that blurb. Gee wiz</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>real or not, id buy them if they were say, twenty bucks or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>real or not, id buy them if they were say, twenty bucks or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture is too small to tell for sure, but that fly doesn&#039;t look like it uses buttons. I&#039;m pretty sure zippers weren&#039;t in common use 100 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture is too small to tell for sure, but that fly doesn't look like it uses buttons. I'm pretty sure zippers weren't in common use 100 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: bean</title>
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		<dc:creator>bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like viral advertising. Note the coin pocket in the front right of the jeans; did they even include those in the 19th century?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like viral advertising. Note the coin pocket in the front right of the jeans; did they even include those in the 19th century?</p>
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		<title>By: Neslock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neslock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I haven&#039;t researched this, but the fact that the jeans have a tag listing the size as &quot;W 34 L 33&quot; makes me seriously doubt the advertised age. I&#039;d be surprised if that sizing method was in use 100 years ago.

Some of the questions on the eBay page are pretty funny:
&quot;Dear Sir, If I purchased these jeans from you, what type of detergent would you suggest using to get the wax off?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I haven't researched this, but the fact that the jeans have a tag listing the size as "W 34 L 33" makes me seriously doubt the advertised age. I'd be surprised if that sizing method was in use 100 years ago.</p>
<p>Some of the questions on the eBay page are pretty funny:<br />
"Dear Sir, If I purchased these jeans from you, what type of detergent would you suggest using to get the wax off?"</p>
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		<title>By: Peeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the Smithsonian have an eBay account?</description>
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