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	<title>Comments on: Museum of Forgotten Art Supply</title>
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		<title>By: Wally Littman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally Littman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never knew this site existed. I have Zipatone by the carload. Also
Press type and loads of mechanical pens. Don&#039;t know what to do with them. I&#039;d welcome suggestions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never knew this site existed. I have Zipatone by the carload. Also<br />
Press type and loads of mechanical pens. Don't know what to do with them. I'd welcome suggestions</p>
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		<title>By: Ilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are not yet forgotten. They are great collection nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not yet forgotten. They are great collection nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: ArtBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArtBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I remember the day of drafting by hand in the 80&#039;s. There was quite a sense of accomplishment with it, but the artistic expression was slow. CAD and photo shop seam to have done away with the old school style, but there&#039;s a quality to the old way that just can&#039;t be matched with a computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I remember the day of drafting by hand in the 80's. There was quite a sense of accomplishment with it, but the artistic expression was slow. CAD and photo shop seam to have done away with the old school style, but there's a quality to the old way that just can't be matched with a computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Vim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have stuff like these :D I use them along with my graphic tablet. Fun :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have stuff like these <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I use them along with my graphic tablet. Fun <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Any Type Of Art Supplies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Any Type Of Art Supplies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wide variety of products that cater to all price ranges, ages, and styles of art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wide variety of products that cater to all price ranges, ages, and styles of art.</p>
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		<title>By: Finding Art Supplies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finding Art Supplies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finding art supplies that are the exact fit for every artist can be a tall order, but at Trekell we are committed to the quality of our products and have been offering our customers the very best in fine art supplies and art brushes for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finding art supplies that are the exact fit for every artist can be a tall order, but at Trekell we are committed to the quality of our products and have been offering our customers the very best in fine art supplies and art brushes for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Gellner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gellner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol behold the internet! Where ancient people used ancient devices called the &quot;computer&quot; to access now-obsolete &quot;information&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol behold the internet! Where ancient people used ancient devices called the "computer" to access now-obsolete "information"!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a set of French curves on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-French-Curve-Set-of-8-Drafting-Drawing-Curves_W0QQitemZ160259457761QQihZ006QQcategoryZ11784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
They are not mine, I just saw them and thought someone might be interested.    :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a set of French curves on ebay.<br />
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-French-Curve-Set-of-8-Drafting-Drawing-Curves_W0QQitemZ160259457761QQihZ006QQcategoryZ11784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-French-Curve-Set-of-8-Drafting-Drawing-Curves_ W0QQitemZ160259457761QQihZ006QQcategoryZ11784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem</a><br />
They are not mine, I just saw them and thought someone might be interested.    <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a class where we weren&#039;t allowed to use a computer to so various projects and it was one of the best experiences ever. It makes you really appreciate a well done job and it sparked my interest on typography :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a class where we weren't allowed to use a computer to so various projects and it was one of the best experiences ever. It makes you really appreciate a well done job and it sparked my interest on typography <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pagalina</title>
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		<dc:creator>pagalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh sweet coloraid sheet. I don&#039;t miss those things at all. I just remember screwing up. drawing letterforms by hand taught me a fine appreciation of letterforms but sweet jesus, that was torture. Let&#039;s add, the aforementioned coloraid, guache, and amberlith to the list. bleck. nostalgia is nice but I&#039;ll take my imac any old day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh sweet coloraid sheet. I don't miss those things at all. I just remember screwing up. drawing letterforms by hand taught me a fine appreciation of letterforms but sweet jesus, that was torture. Let's add, the aforementioned coloraid, guache, and amberlith to the list. bleck. nostalgia is nice but I'll take my imac any old day!</p>
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		<title>By: artbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>artbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beside the fact that a lot of these tools are still in regular use, many of them have become indispensable to digital artists using the Wacom Cintiq tablets.  A standard tablet doesn&#039;t let you maintain a consistent orientation of the pen tool on the work, but the Cintiq does, which lets you to use rulers and curves right on the screen.  Very nifty, and the reason I bought one.

As an aside, I was an ID major in the mid 80s (ACCD), and we had to make our own set of ship&#039;s curves in the shop.  Ship&#039;s curves are kind of like French curves, but larger and straighter, and were traditionally used for drawing the section curves on ship blueprints.  Making one&#039;s own drawing tools is a sweet memory I&#039;m afraid few students get to experience today.

@Kyle - that&#039;s awesome they start you on traditional tools.  I was a draftsman, then and industrial designer for years while using only traditional tools.  I LOVED Rapidographs and did much of my early personal artworks with them.  Sure, there were disadvantages to those &quot;ancient&quot; tools sometimes, but the deep understanding you gain from using these will forever serve you better than any &quot;here&#039;s what button to press&quot; sort of &quot;education&quot;.

&gt;&gt;&gt;end of rambling post....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beside the fact that a lot of these tools are still in regular use, many of them have become indispensable to digital artists using the Wacom Cintiq tablets.  A standard tablet doesn't let you maintain a consistent orientation of the pen tool on the work, but the Cintiq does, which lets you to use rulers and curves right on the screen.  Very nifty, and the reason I bought one.</p>
<p>As an aside, I was an ID major in the mid 80s (ACCD), and we had to make our own set of ship's curves in the shop.  Ship's curves are kind of like French curves, but larger and straighter, and were traditionally used for drawing the section curves on ship blueprints.  Making one's own drawing tools is a sweet memory I'm afraid few students get to experience today.</p>
<p>@Kyle - that's awesome they start you on traditional tools.  I was a draftsman, then and industrial designer for years while using only traditional tools.  I LOVED Rapidographs and did much of my early personal artworks with them.  Sure, there were disadvantages to those "ancient" tools sometimes, but the deep understanding you gain from using these will forever serve you better than any "here's what button to press" sort of "education".</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;end of rambling post....</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently a sophomore architect student and we still use a lot of these tools for the first two years. Its hand drafting until junior year.

Those Rapidographs are fun stuff. Don&#039;t mess up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm currently a sophomore architect student and we still use a lot of these tools for the first two years. Its hand drafting until junior year.</p>
<p>Those Rapidographs are fun stuff. Don't mess up</p>
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		<title>By: Skipweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skipweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought my ten year old son a set of French Curves earlier this year - he wanted them for drawing sinuous dragons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought my ten year old son a set of French Curves earlier this year - he wanted them for drawing sinuous dragons.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/13/museum-of-forgotten-art-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-655262</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>French curves, still used. Neatorama gettin&#039; a lotta flack fer this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French curves, still used. Neatorama gettin' a lotta flack fer this.</p>
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		<title>By: Polx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God there&#039;s a blast from the past.

French Curves.

Well that&#039;s what we uised to call them.

But as has been stated, a lot of that stuff is still in use...I look to my left and see ISOGRAPHS and Rapidographs of mine some which were new whn my Dad bought them in the early 50&#039;s and they still work fine.

I have two full sets of Isographs, one that has only ever known white ink.

But i now use the computer so much than when I find my slef makign a mistake with a pen I keep mutterign &quot;undo&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God there's a blast from the past.</p>
<p>French Curves.</p>
<p>Well that's what we uised to call them.</p>
<p>But as has been stated, a lot of that stuff is still in use...I look to my left and see ISOGRAPHS and Rapidographs of mine some which were new whn my Dad bought them in the early 50's and they still work fine.</p>
<p>I have two full sets of Isographs, one that has only ever known white ink.</p>
<p>But i now use the computer so much than when I find my slef makign a mistake with a pen I keep mutterign "undo".</p>
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		<title>By: Prophet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn´t say they are forgotten.</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Stanhope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Stanhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father was a classically trained graphic artist (RISD &#039;65) and ran a commercial art studio in Boston for more than 20 years.  In his world, if you wanted a different font you either had to pick it out of a book and pay a company to &quot;set&quot; the type for you - or you had to draw the font yourself.  Tools like those above were the regular playthings of my youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father was a classically trained graphic artist (RISD '65) and ran a commercial art studio in Boston for more than 20 years.  In his world, if you wanted a different font you either had to pick it out of a book and pay a company to "set" the type for you - or you had to draw the font yourself.  Tools like those above were the regular playthings of my youth.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah the old French curves. Much racier than our staid English curves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the old French curves. Much racier than our staid English curves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sew, and I use french curves all the time when drafting or altering patterns.  Of course, the one I usually use is 2 feet long, but the smaller ones are invaluable for creating curved darts and other interesting details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sew, and I use french curves all the time when drafting or altering patterns.  Of course, the one I usually use is 2 feet long, but the smaller ones are invaluable for creating curved darts and other interesting details.</p>
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		<title>By: DeLuxe</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeLuxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just try and draw shapes like that in Illustrator...
Oh, and why are old photographs so much sharper than our 8+ Megapixel modern snaps?</description>
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Oh, and why are old photographs so much sharper than our 8+ Megapixel modern snaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 30 years old - a relative newbie in the illustration/design field and I still use a lot of these tools along with the computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm 30 years old - a relative newbie in the illustration/design field and I still use a lot of these tools along with the computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously we use pantone swatch books all the time! And there&#039;s still room for burnishers and whatnot in our office. Neat collection nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously we use pantone swatch books all the time! And there's still room for burnishers and whatnot in our office. Neat collection nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: MoonCake</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoonCake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have inherited all of my mom&#039;s art supplies and i totally have those. they were great for arts &amp; crafts when i was growing up, and definitely helped with my creativity today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have inherited all of my mom's art supplies and i totally have those. they were great for arts &amp; crafts when i was growing up, and definitely helped with my creativity today!</p>
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		<title>By: davedonelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>davedonelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For real ancient artifacts, consider the architect&#039;s rule and slide rule.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kunati.com/heart-of-diamonds&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dave Donelson, author of Heart of Diamonds&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For real ancient artifacts, consider the architect's rule and slide rule.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kunati.com/heart-of-diamonds" rel="nofollow">Dave Donelson, author of Heart of Diamonds</a></p>
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		<title>By: SenorMysterioso</title>
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		<dc:creator>SenorMysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least half of this stuff is still used pretty regularly</description>
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