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	<title>Comments on: Why iPods Are So Expensive: Secret &quot;Apple Tax&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: kirbie</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-660658</link>
		<dc:creator>kirbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a 2nd G iPod nano and just over a year after I bought it I got the white screen of death. Now I have to reset it every time I want to use it and the ipod support site is a joke - there&#039;s no way to contact them.
I wish I&#039;d got a creative Vision or some other such device. 
I also hate the fact that Apple&#039;s products are so restrictive - it&#039;s so difficult to  alter with the software on them or alter them in any way. 
I&#039;ll never fall for style over substance again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a 2nd G iPod nano and just over a year after I bought it I got the white screen of death. Now I have to reset it every time I want to use it and the ipod support site is a joke - there's no way to contact them.<br />
I wish I'd got a creative Vision or some other such device.<br />
I also hate the fact that Apple's products are so restrictive - it's so difficult to  alter with the software on them or alter them in any way.<br />
I'll never fall for style over substance again.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-653461</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Apple tax? Gimme a break:

^ DEMAND = ^ PRICE


simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Apple tax? Gimme a break:</p>
<p>^ DEMAND = ^ PRICE</p>
<p>simple.</p>
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		<title>By: nevrdull</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-652225</link>
		<dc:creator>nevrdull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my,the fanboys are out in full force again..
appple does have a problem with its proprietary standards (as does MS, i know..) but then again, if apple wants to be perceived as the benevolent giant, which its supporters tell us that they are, it had better change its attitude.
and oh yeah, steve is an asshat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my,the fanboys are out in full force again..<br />
appple does have a problem with its proprietary standards (as does MS, i know..) but then again, if apple wants to be perceived as the benevolent giant, which its supporters tell us that they are, it had better change its attitude.<br />
and oh yeah, steve is an asshat.</p>
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		<title>By: Xinavera</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-652211</link>
		<dc:creator>Xinavera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t like iPods?  Buy a Zune and be one of the tens of dozens of satisfied Zune users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't like iPods?  Buy a Zune and be one of the tens of dozens of satisfied Zune users.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-652171</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see, they can&#039;t make enough money selling the ipod and ripping off consumers, so they make more by ripping off manufacturers.  They did something similar with Firewire, but not nearly on this scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, they can't make enough money selling the ipod and ripping off consumers, so they make more by ripping off manufacturers.  They did something similar with Firewire, but not nearly on this scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric B.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-652040</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, doesn&#039;t this just tell us why the accesories are expensive, not the actual iPod?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, doesn't this just tell us why the accesories are expensive, not the actual iPod?</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651985</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@caitlin13: Some people like being shafted. They&#039;re called Bottoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@caitlin13: Some people like being shafted. They're called Bottoms.</p>
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		<title>By: Absent</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651944</link>
		<dc:creator>Absent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once bought a crystal that was psychically charged by Uri Gellar. I&#039;ve seen him to it, he holds the crystal in his hands and enforced the psychic energy into it. Steve Jobs does a similar thing with every iThing that comes odd the productions line, he personally infuses them with cool. I believe in this as much as I believe in my Uri Gellar crystal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once bought a crystal that was psychically charged by Uri Gellar. I've seen him to it, he holds the crystal in his hands and enforced the psychic energy into it. Steve Jobs does a similar thing with every iThing that comes odd the productions line, he personally infuses them with cool. I believe in this as much as I believe in my Uri Gellar crystal.</p>
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		<title>By: Homer Jay Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651866</link>
		<dc:creator>Homer Jay Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah let the sheeple tire themselves out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah let the sheeple tire themselves out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofar</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651635</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not approve of big companies making money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not approve of big companies making money.</p>
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		<title>By: S-r-ex</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651630</link>
		<dc:creator>S-r-ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why Apple is expensive, is because their logo is an apple which someone took a bite off, the company is called Apple, (our holy leader?) Steve Jobs presents their products, even touches them and holds them up, they have a minimalistic design, and not to forget all the hype around their products. &quot;The Macbook Air, is SO thin, we had to make the DVD player external!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why Apple is expensive, is because their logo is an apple which someone took a bite off, the company is called Apple, (our holy leader?) Steve Jobs presents their products, even touches them and holds them up, they have a minimalistic design, and not to forget all the hype around their products. "The Macbook Air, is SO thin, we had to make the DVD player external!"</p>
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		<title>By: EP</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651437</link>
		<dc:creator>EP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda, there are some programs to avoid this and copy the music to the pc. Most apple users know them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda, there are some programs to avoid this and copy the music to the pc. Most apple users know them.</p>
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		<title>By: AH</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651250</link>
		<dc:creator>AH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t make iPods more expensive at all. Rather, it makes some accessories for iPods more expensive. 

Moreover, the story actually states, &quot;In fact, licensing fees, such as the one for the ubiquitous “Made for iPod” sticker, account for the bulk of the so-called &#039;Apple tax.&#039;&quot;

So, 

1) This piece has nothing to do with the price of iPods or iPhones.

2) The required chip -- and it is only requires for particular kinds of accessories -- is a minority of the &quot;Apple Tax.&quot;

3) The rest of the &quot;Apple Tax&quot; is an entirely voluntary marketing program, wherein accessory manufacturers can put the symbol and label of Apple&#039;s &quot;Made for iPod&quot; program. 

This is, by far, the most misleading labeling/framing of a Neatorama piece that I&#039;ve ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn't make iPods more expensive at all. Rather, it makes some accessories for iPods more expensive. </p>
<p>Moreover, the story actually states, "In fact, licensing fees, such as the one for the ubiquitous “Made for iPod” sticker, account for the bulk of the so-called 'Apple tax.'"</p>
<p>So, </p>
<p>1) This piece has nothing to do with the price of iPods or iPhones.</p>
<p>2) The required chip -- and it is only requires for particular kinds of accessories -- is a minority of the "Apple Tax."</p>
<p>3) The rest of the "Apple Tax" is an entirely voluntary marketing program, wherein accessory manufacturers can put the symbol and label of Apple's "Made for iPod" program. </p>
<p>This is, by far, the most misleading labeling/framing of a Neatorama piece that I've ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: NuSound</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651143</link>
		<dc:creator>NuSound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what does that have to do with the price of iPods? Either I missed something, or that&#039;s is a seriously misleading title.
__

Miranda, without getting fanboyish, Apple&#039;s loyal &#039;customerbase&#039; has ZER0 to do with being locked in to iTunes purchases, and it&#039;s just silly to suggest otherwise. The customer base existed long before ITMS or iPods. Customers (of any brand) are loyal because the believe in the company and it&#039;s products. You can&#039;t strong-arm that kind of thing. 

If you aren&#039;t a &quot;loyal customer of X&quot; you can&#039;t really tell &quot;loyal customers of X&quot; why they are loyal. I&#039;m a long-time Apple customer. It has nothing to do with vendor lock-in for me, and you don&#039;t get to tell me otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what does that have to do with the price of iPods? Either I missed something, or that's is a seriously misleading title.<br />
__</p>
<p>Miranda, without getting fanboyish, Apple's loyal 'customerbase' has ZER0 to do with being locked in to iTunes purchases, and it's just silly to suggest otherwise. The customer base existed long before ITMS or iPods. Customers (of any brand) are loyal because the believe in the company and it's products. You can't strong-arm that kind of thing. </p>
<p>If you aren't a "loyal customer of X" you can't really tell "loyal customers of X" why they are loyal. I'm a long-time Apple customer. It has nothing to do with vendor lock-in for me, and you don't get to tell me otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Giachetti</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651139</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Giachetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put custom firmware on my PSP. Except for lack of touch screen, it does everything the I-got-boned. Even calls from wifi hotspots. 

Why spend all that dosh when $175 and some software changes and get the same things done but with better screen size and speed?  Even IRC chatting and adhock networking.

Up yours Jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put custom firmware on my PSP. Except for lack of touch screen, it does everything the I-got-boned. Even calls from wifi hotspots. </p>
<p>Why spend all that dosh when $175 and some software changes and get the same things done but with better screen size and speed?  Even IRC chatting and adhock networking.</p>
<p>Up yours Jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: DOJ</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-651057</link>
		<dc:creator>DOJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dinosaur with a Walkman? that sounds like 3/4ths a Seth Galifianakis joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dinosaur with a Walkman? that sounds like 3/4ths a Seth Galifianakis joke</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda Vink</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-650990</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda Vink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has a very loyal customerbase because of vendor lock in. If you&#039;ve bought a collection of songs on iTunes, you can only play &#039;em on an iPod or iTouch. That makes it hard to switch to another brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has a very loyal customerbase because of vendor lock in. If you've bought a collection of songs on iTunes, you can only play 'em on an iPod or iTouch. That makes it hard to switch to another brand.</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin13</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-650976</link>
		<dc:creator>caitlin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has a very loyal customer and fan base DanO. I&#039;d hardly say we&#039;re being &quot;shafted&quot;. If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t buy it. Join bean and his dinosaur age technology and laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has a very loyal customer and fan base DanO. I'd hardly say we're being "shafted". If you don't like it, don't buy it. Join bean and his dinosaur age technology and laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: bean</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-650948</link>
		<dc:creator>bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and my cassette Walkman are laughing our asses off at all the Apple fanboy yuppies.</description>
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		<title>By: DanO</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/10/why-ipods-are-so-expensive-secret-apple-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-650942</link>
		<dc:creator>DanO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Ipod accessories are ripoffs.  The main reason they come out with new models is so you have to buy a new case, charging cord and speakers.  Microsoft is no better but Apple really shafts its customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Ipod accessories are ripoffs.  The main reason they come out with new models is so you have to buy a new case, charging cord and speakers.  Microsoft is no better but Apple really shafts its customers.</p>
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