Comments on: The Worst Tourists of the Western World? Oui, The French! http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:16:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-649645 Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:21:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-649645 @ neuralien Well, I'm not in the 17th or 18th centuries, am I? History aside, it doesn't help me understand the language past the accent. (It's "farmer French"... LOL. I bet the folks in Quebec would take offense to that!) @ neuralien

Well, I’m not in the 17th or 18th centuries, am I? History aside, it doesn’t help me understand the language past the accent. (It’s “farmer French”… LOL. I bet the folks in Quebec would take offense to that!)

]]> By: Lea http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-649192 Lea Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:49:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-649192 When I went to france, they were terribly rude and nasty to americans. Now, I agree, americans are pretty annoying tourists but I cannot understand why people go to another country and expect to be treated special. If you are a guest in another country, act like one. The native citizens are not there to cater to your every whim and I never expected that. I just think people should be polite to each other. No one has to like anyone but there's really no reason to be nasty either. Interesting side note, I've noticed that even tourists from different states within the US act differently. Just something to consider. When I went to france, they were terribly rude and nasty to americans. Now, I agree, americans are pretty annoying tourists but I cannot understand why people go to another country and expect to be treated special. If you are a guest in another country, act like one. The native citizens are not there to cater to your every whim and I never expected that. I just think people should be polite to each other. No one has to like anyone but there’s really no reason to be nasty either.

Interesting side note, I’ve noticed that even tourists from different states within the US act differently. Just something to consider.

]]> By: Algonkin http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648759 Algonkin Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:11:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648759 @ Neuralien Not many people know that and I'm glad you said it. Your statement is quite true. @ Neuralien

Not many people know that and I’m glad you said it. Your statement is quite true.

]]> By: WordyGrrl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648409 WordyGrrl Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:02:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648409 As a GI, I used to run into American tourists overseas and they were just painfully annoying to be around. Not because they were Americans, but because they were "the moneyed class" that can afford to travel overseas and expect the planet's people to kiss their asses. As a GI, I used to run into American tourists overseas and they were just painfully annoying to be around. Not because they were Americans, but because they were “the moneyed class” that can afford to travel overseas and expect the planet’s people to kiss their asses.

]]> By: Gaby http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648306 Gaby Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:59:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648306 Well all of this is completely biased, simply because every culture has it's own conception of politeness. Some cultures may call "hypocrisy" to what other culture defines as "polite" and so on. In my own personal experience, the only tourists I've met that has left me with a bad impression were Lebanese (not exactly in the west, then) and that is because the lady I spoke with was particularly moody. But I concur with the survey, the japanese tourists I've met have been wonderful, because they wanted to know more about the regional culture. The swedes I've met have been very nice too. Well all of this is completely biased, simply because every culture has it’s own conception of politeness. Some cultures may call “hypocrisy” to what other culture defines as “polite” and so on.

In my own personal experience, the only tourists I’ve met that has left me with a bad impression were Lebanese (not exactly in the west, then) and that is because the lady I spoke with was particularly moody. But I concur with the survey, the japanese tourists I’ve met have been wonderful, because they wanted to know more about the regional culture. The swedes I’ve met have been very nice too.

]]> By: Greengirl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648135 Greengirl Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:17:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648135 neuralien I thought that the majority of the French settlers of the Quebec area were loyal to the aristocracy. I could very well be confused. I agree with the part about Quebecois French being closer to the original French root language. One thing that you can see is that the Revolution never changed the Quebecois French in the use of pronouns and using Catholic Church objects as swears. neuralien

I thought that the majority of the French settlers of the Quebec area were loyal to the aristocracy. I could very well be confused. I agree with the part about Quebecois French being closer to the original French root language. One thing that you can see is that the Revolution never changed the Quebecois French in the use of pronouns and using Catholic Church objects as swears.

]]> By: jay http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648074 jay Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:50:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648074 Take it would a healthy dose of skepticism! ...a lot of bias can enter a poll that tries to quantitate 'nice', 'polite,' and 'rude' etc. These are very subjective and depend on preconceptions to a great degree.(for instance, I know some people in the Midwest that consider others 'rude' if they merely opt out of the rather vapid "have a nice day!" banality.) Take it would a healthy dose of skepticism! …a lot of bias can enter a poll that tries to quantitate ‘nice’, ‘polite,’ and ‘rude’ etc. These are very subjective and depend on preconceptions to a great degree.(for instance, I know some people in the Midwest that consider others ‘rude’ if they merely opt out of the rather vapid “have a nice day!” banality.)

]]> By: just a guy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648054 just a guy Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:14:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648054 "Overall, French travelers landed 19th out of 21 nations worldwide" 19 out of 21 doesn't make them the worst. Who is the 21st? “Overall, French travelers landed 19th out of 21 nations worldwide”

19 out of 21 doesn’t make them the worst. Who is the 21st?

]]> By: neuralien http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-648016 neuralien Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:22:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-648016 @Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Actually, Québecois French is closer to the actual French root language. The Frence language in France continued its natural evolution and became what it is today whereas Québecois French evolved from the language spoken by the original colonists being mostly the rural, common or less aristocratic people of that period. If you research what French sounded like back in the 17th and 18th century, it would surprisingly sound close to Québecois. @Neatoramawontsendmeapassword

Actually, Québecois French is closer to the actual French root language. The Frence language in France continued its natural evolution and became what it is today whereas Québecois French evolved from the language spoken by the original colonists being mostly the rural, common or less aristocratic people of that period. If you research what French sounded like back in the 17th and 18th century, it would surprisingly sound close to Québecois.

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647885 Christophe Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:00:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647885 C'est vrai, nous sommes les pires touristes, surtout les Parisiens. And Bah.. has a very good analysis of French tiping. C’est vrai, nous sommes les pires touristes, surtout les Parisiens.

And Bah.. has a very good analysis of French tiping.

]]> By: HW http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647836 HW Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:14:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647836 wackybit "Maybe it’s because they are in a different country and they just don’t care??" Same goes for everybody. Look at the American military. They just get drunk, rape, and then go off and kill somebody the next day. wackybit

“Maybe it’s because they are in a different country and they just don’t care??”

Same goes for everybody. Look at the American military. They just get drunk, rape, and then go off and kill somebody the next day.

]]> By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647827 Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:58:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647827 Nick D., As a Canadian, I wouldn't be annoyed if a French person spoke French to me. We all learn the language in school, so it would be fun practice. I prefer "real" French anyway... I can't understand "Quebecois" (same language, horribly mangled accent). I don't think the anti-French sentiment is as bad here as you think it is, anyway. That seems to be more of an American thing. And as far as them not speaking other languages, my sister found the opposite when she went to France. Everywhere she went, she'd start out in French and the people would automatically switch to English. Maybe they're more stubborn when they travel... I don't know. I will agree about the Chinese, though. There are lots of them here (tourists and residents). A lot don't bother to learn the language. It's frustrating to have to deal with them in public. I always end up feeling like the stupid one because I can't understand them. Last time I checked, though, Chinese was not one of our official languages. Nick D.,

As a Canadian, I wouldn’t be annoyed if a French person spoke French to me. We all learn the language in school, so it would be fun practice. I prefer “real” French anyway… I can’t understand “Quebecois” (same language, horribly mangled accent).

I don’t think the anti-French sentiment is as bad here as you think it is, anyway. That seems to be more of an American thing. And as far as them not speaking other languages, my sister found the opposite when she went to France. Everywhere she went, she’d start out in French and the people would automatically switch to English. Maybe they’re more stubborn when they travel… I don’t know.

I will agree about the Chinese, though. There are lots of them here (tourists and residents). A lot don’t bother to learn the language. It’s frustrating to have to deal with them in public. I always end up feeling like the stupid one because I can’t understand them. Last time I checked, though, Chinese was not one of our official languages.

]]> By: pfelelep http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647800 pfelelep Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:29:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647800 french guy says: "Cocoricooooo!" french guy says:

“Cocoricooooo!”

]]> By: bean http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647796 bean Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:20:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647796 The worst tourists I've ever dealt with were Japanese, with Germans a close second. Japanese tour groups in American art museums always try to touch the priceless 300 year old paintings. The worst tourists I’ve ever dealt with were Japanese, with Germans a close second. Japanese tour groups in American art museums always try to touch the priceless 300 year old paintings.

]]> By: kid_icarus http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647714 kid_icarus Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:15:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647714 take that ya "cheese eating surrender monkeys!" ahhhh i finally get to quote groundskeeper willie.... take that ya “cheese eating surrender monkeys!”

ahhhh i finally get to quote groundskeeper willie….

]]> By: whatever http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647470 whatever Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:55:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647470 what does being FAT have to do with anything? what does being FAT have to do with anything?

]]> By: rabrabbit http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647264 rabrabbit Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:22:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647264 France is also the most visited country in the world ;) France is also the most visited country in the world ;)

]]> By: LH http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647193 LH Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:08:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647193 I´ve heard the same thing about french people. I´ve heard the same thing about french people.

]]> By: Nick D. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647185 Nick D. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:56:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647185 Algonkin, Sorry for the omission. Having said that two thirds of Canadians speaks English exclusively. French speakers only amount for a less than a quarter of Canada population and I don't think they were part of those who complained French tourists wouldn't speak the local language. Algonkin,

Sorry for the omission. Having said that two thirds of Canadians speaks English exclusively. French speakers only amount for a less than a quarter of Canada population and I don’t think they were part of those who complained French tourists wouldn’t speak the local language.

]]> By: Algonkin http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647173 Algonkin Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:37:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647173 Sorry Nick D. but Canada has two official languages French and English and yes, French Canadians are fond of France. Sorry Nick D. but Canada has two official languages French and English and yes, French Canadians are fond of France.

]]> By: Bah... http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647120 Bah... Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:34:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647120 For the tipping issue: In France, service is ALWAYS comprised in the bill (15%), in bars, cafés and restaurants. Tipping is so only when you feel like, and often only a small amount (it's all extra in the waiter's pocket, who already has a decent (albeit not huge...) salary with social security and retirement plan). So, abroad, French people don't realize immediately that waiters live in fact from tipping. For the tipping issue:
In France, service is ALWAYS comprised in the bill (15%), in bars, cafés and restaurants. Tipping is so only when you feel like, and often only a small amount (it’s all extra in the waiter’s pocket, who already has a decent (albeit not huge…) salary with social security and retirement plan).

So, abroad, French people don’t realize immediately that waiters live in fact from tipping.

]]> By: Nick D. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647081 Nick D. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:02:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647081 Strangely enough, half of the countries where the survey was made (Germany, France, Italy, UK, Canada & the USA) are English speaking countries which are not especially renown for their fondness of France. Strangely enough, half of the countries where the survey was made (Germany, France, Italy, UK, Canada & the USA) are English speaking countries which are not especially renown for their fondness of France.

]]> By: Monica http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647077 Monica Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:59:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647077 The Brits in third place? Do me a favour. This study is clearly a load of cobblers, Brits abroad are notorious for being loud, obnoxious drunkards (In certain European countries anyway, countries not included in this study) I think the whole thing is a load of rubbish (I am British BTW) The Brits in third place? Do me a favour. This study is clearly a load of cobblers, Brits abroad are notorious for being loud, obnoxious drunkards (In certain European countries anyway, countries not included in this study)

I think the whole thing is a load of rubbish

(I am British BTW)

]]> By: Anthony http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-647025 Anthony Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:49:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-647025 Thailand and Italy are far apart. Thailand and Italy are far apart.

]]> By: wackybit http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-646879 wackybit Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:04:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-646879 Are you sure the japanese are the nicest? I've been living in Thailand and the apartment I'm living in is 80% or more japanese and they are the loudest and rudest people I've ever seen. They gather in groups and they just start talking. Even in nice quiet Italian restaurants, if there is a group of japanese (3 is enough). The whole restaurant can hear what they are saying! except we dont understand them. I consider japanese people to be amongst the worst tourist. When I went to japan for a trip it was completely different, they are nice and polite. They are even quiet in restaurants. Maybe it's because they are in a different country and they just don't care?? Are you sure the japanese are the nicest?
I’ve been living in Thailand and the apartment I’m living in is 80% or more japanese and they are the loudest and rudest people I’ve ever seen. They gather in groups and they just start talking. Even in nice quiet Italian restaurants, if there is a group of japanese (3 is enough). The whole restaurant can hear what they are saying! except we dont understand them.

I consider japanese people to be amongst the worst tourist.

When I went to japan for a trip it was completely different, they are nice and polite. They are even quiet in restaurants.
Maybe it’s because they are in a different country and they just don’t care??

]]> By: Anthony http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-646850 Anthony Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:46:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-646850 France is in Europe. France is in Europe.

]]> By: Clapoti http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-646769 Clapoti Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:04:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-646769 You forgot the part where they say: "Americans, by contrast, demand the same exceptional service they are used to at home, which is why they rank as the loudest, most inclined to complain and among the least polite." I would also include Australians in this ;) You forgot the part where they say:

“Americans, by contrast, demand the same exceptional service they are used to at home, which is why they rank as the loudest, most inclined to complain and among the least polite.”

I would also include Australians in this ;)

]]> By: lambic http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/08/the-worst-tourists-of-the-western-world-oui-the-french/#comment-646754 lambic Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:57:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=17215#comment-646754 im a waitress, and unfortunatly this was so true with the uneducated french.the parisians are the worse (often) lets give them a chance though...i work at a new restaurant where people are more concious and it is better im a waitress, and unfortunatly this was so true with the uneducated french.the parisians are the worse (often) lets give them a chance though…i work at a new restaurant where people are more concious and it is better

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