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	<title>Comments on: Should I Stop or Should I Go?</title>
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		<title>By: flashtastic</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-702953</link>
		<dc:creator>flashtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the lights themselves are not that confusing (read comments above as to what each of them refers to) the sequence of lights is.

The left and right arrows go green at the same time but the straight circle never goes green. This is because the part of Swanston St ahead is not designed to take a large amount of traffic. Taxis (and others familiar with the intersection) routinely ignore the red light and cross anyway.

It is quite common to see confused motorists opposite these lights waiting to go straight only to have 50 cars pile up behind them beeping them through a few sequences until they give up and turn left or right.

I know all of this as I used to attend RMIT university which is just around the corner from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the lights themselves are not that confusing (read comments above as to what each of them refers to) the sequence of lights is.</p>
<p>The left and right arrows go green at the same time but the straight circle never goes green. This is because the part of Swanston St ahead is not designed to take a large amount of traffic. Taxis (and others familiar with the intersection) routinely ignore the red light and cross anyway.</p>
<p>It is quite common to see confused motorists opposite these lights waiting to go straight only to have 50 cars pile up behind them beeping them through a few sequences until they give up and turn left or right.</p>
<p>I know all of this as I used to attend RMIT university which is just around the corner from here.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-699799</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris Gregory  
Actually at this intersection (corner of La Trobe and Swanston St) the trams cannot turn, they do cross the intersecion from both directions though.

And yes it is a dangerous intersection, last week I saw a taxi driver run the red light there, I think he did it on purpose though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Gregory<br />
Actually at this intersection (corner of La Trobe and Swanston St) the trams cannot turn, they do cross the intersecion from both directions though.</p>
<p>And yes it is a dangerous intersection, last week I saw a taxi driver run the red light there, I think he did it on purpose though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brayden</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-643221</link>
		<dc:creator>Brayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can't forget this one:

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/london_photos/Canary_Wharf_Traffic_Lights.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t forget this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/london_photos/Canary_Wharf_Traffic_Lights.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/london_photos/Canary_Wharf_Traffic_Ligh ts.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Polx</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-640527</link>
		<dc:creator>Polx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsey

yeah that was the name of the place. I only ever went in there to Daimaru, so to my mind they were synonymous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsey</p>
<p>yeah that was the name of the place. I only ever went in there to Daimaru, so to my mind they were synonymous.</p>
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		<title>By: Larfin Jackarse</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-640384</link>
		<dc:creator>Larfin Jackarse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Lindsey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Lindsey!</p>
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		<title>By: your_mum_goes_to_college</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-640094</link>
		<dc:creator>your_mum_goes_to_college</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbourne is RIDIC to drive through! So easy to get lost and end up on a highway from the city with no exits that leads you to the sticks. And they e charge you all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbourne is RIDIC to drive through! So easy to get lost and end up on a highway from the city with no exits that leads you to the sticks. And they e charge you all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail Pink</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-640060</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail Pink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They would love this in New York City!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would love this in New York City!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/03/should-i-stop-or-should-i-go/#comment-639921</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The background cone is part of Melbourne Central, a shopping center.  The cone covers an old museum where a shot tower is housed.  I live two blocks from the stop light, I'll try to get a pic of it lit and send it in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The background cone is part of Melbourne Central, a shopping center.  The cone covers an old museum where a shot tower is housed.  I live two blocks from the stop light, I&#8217;ll try to get a pic of it lit and send it in.</p>
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		<title>By: Polx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in the background is the conical roof of Daimaru.

Or the shopping centre where Daimaru was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in the background is the conical roof of Daimaru.</p>
<p>Or the shopping centre where Daimaru was.</p>
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		<title>By: Polx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was riding a bicycle in Melbourne, I realised that  basically at every cross roads you were performing a Hooky.

Austaralia is so fine

God I miss my Kingswood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was riding a bicycle in Melbourne, I realised that  basically at every cross roads you were performing a Hooky.</p>
<p>Austaralia is so fine</p>
<p>God I miss my Kingswood</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbourne has the largest tram system in the English-speaking world, and they almost all meet in the central business district. So you've got lights for the trams going down the middle of the street, then lights for traffic on either side of the street, then lights for when the trams are turning and for when the automotive traffic can turn.

The camera angle obfuscates the lights themselves, which are fairly self-explanatory. I've lived in Melbourne long enough to be comfortable with the hook turn as well, which again is only in the CBD. For truly confusing traffic systems, go to Canberra, which is a planned city based on weird circular trafic patterns - you need to use a protractor to give someone directions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbourne has the largest tram system in the English-speaking world, and they almost all meet in the central business district. So you&#8217;ve got lights for the trams going down the middle of the street, then lights for traffic on either side of the street, then lights for when the trams are turning and for when the automotive traffic can turn.</p>
<p>The camera angle obfuscates the lights themselves, which are fairly self-explanatory. I&#8217;ve lived in Melbourne long enough to be comfortable with the hook turn as well, which again is only in the CBD. For truly confusing traffic systems, go to Canberra, which is a planned city based on weird circular trafic patterns - you need to use a protractor to give someone directions.</p>
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		<title>By: Larfin Jackarse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larfin Jackarse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be great fun when the power goes out.

@Makkelele  
I would love to take a fode for you but that means going in to the city and ahhh no thanks.

I think this it here http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&#38;ie=UTF8&#38;ll=-37.809788,144.963781&#38;spn=0.000379,0.000587&#38;t=h&#38;z=21</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be great fun when the power goes out.</p>
<p>@Makkelele<br />
I would love to take a fode for you but that means going in to the city and ahhh no thanks.</p>
<p>I think this it here <a href="http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=-37.809788,144.963781&amp;spn=0.000379,0.000587&amp;t=h&amp;z=21" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=-37.809788,144.963781&amp; spn=0.000379,0.000587&amp;t=h&amp;z=21</a></p>
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		<title>By: EP</title>
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		<dc:creator>EP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that is a great idea to control traffic jams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is a great idea to control traffic jams.</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha oh the hook turns, the reason I never even attempted to drive when I lived there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha oh the hook turns, the reason I never even attempted to drive when I lived there</p>
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		<title>By: Makkelele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makkelele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can some Aussie please post a picture-serie of this one being lit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can some Aussie please post a picture-serie of this one being lit?</p>
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		<title>By: Polx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_turn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_turn" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_turn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Polx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I lived in Melbourne for nearly 7 years and don't recall ever seeing these.

But with a bit of logical thought... if you think of it as being that the centre lights are for the trams and the others are for the cars the whole thing is a lot simpler than it looks.


A lot simpler than tryng to describe the Melbourne Hook Turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I lived in Melbourne for nearly 7 years and don&#8217;t recall ever seeing these.</p>
<p>But with a bit of logical thought&#8230; if you think of it as being that the centre lights are for the trams and the others are for the cars the whole thing is a lot simpler than it looks.</p>
<p>A lot simpler than tryng to describe the Melbourne Hook Turn.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People must be far more 'with it' there... around here, they would just be confused, and there would be a lot of accidents. Now I know what you are thinking... we are not really a bunch of inbred idiots, there are just a lot of older people, that's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People must be far more &#8216;with it&#8217; there&#8230; around here, they would just be confused, and there would be a lot of accidents. Now I know what you are thinking&#8230; we are not really a bunch of inbred idiots, there are just a lot of older people, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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