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	<title>Comments on: Not Inviting 2 Classmates to Birthday Party Led to Complaint to Swedish Parliament</title>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was very wrong of a parent to give his kid invitations to pass out at school, when not all the kids were invited.  That is just bad manners.  We need to teach our children that they do have the right to invite who they want, yet...discretion and tact should be implied.  My daughter is going thru the same issue.  There are 36 kids in her class.  I told her to invite 5-7 kids to take to the movies.  We will be mailing the invites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was very wrong of a parent to give his kid invitations to pass out at school, when not all the kids were invited.  That is just bad manners.  We need to teach our children that they do have the right to invite who they want, yet...discretion and tact should be implied.  My daughter is going thru the same issue.  There are 36 kids in her class.  I told her to invite 5-7 kids to take to the movies.  We will be mailing the invites.</p>
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		<title>By: Baroni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The school and teacher have got this absolutely spot on. The venue for the party had obviously not been vetted prior to this (unauthorised) bash, the adults who were to attend had not had their CRB checks processed, the public health department had not given a clean bill of health to their kitchens and the play area for the party was not certificated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school and teacher have got this absolutely spot on. The venue for the party had obviously not been vetted prior to this (unauthorised) bash, the adults who were to attend had not had their CRB checks processed, the public health department had not given a clean bill of health to their kitchens and the play area for the party was not certificated.</p>
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		<title>By: kickinkirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>kickinkirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More bizarre assumptions to suit your argument: because the invitations were taken away, the teacher didn’t take him aside.  Huh?  That association simply doesn’t follow logically.  And confiscation, by its nature, is not necessarily permanent – but you&#039;ve just described it as such, only because it plays into your point of view.  (You don’t get your pot back because pot is illegal; invitations are not.)

You’ve been doing this in nearly every post, and it’s bizarre to me that you don’t even see it.  Or maybe you do, but you ignore the inconvenience.  The thing is, you make some valid points, but they’re really easy to disregard when they’re surrounded by so much nonsense and empty hostility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More bizarre assumptions to suit your argument: because the invitations were taken away, the teacher didn’t take him aside.  Huh?  That association simply doesn’t follow logically.  And confiscation, by its nature, is not necessarily permanent – but you've just described it as such, only because it plays into your point of view.  (You don’t get your pot back because pot is illegal; invitations are not.)</p>
<p>You’ve been doing this in nearly every post, and it’s bizarre to me that you don’t even see it.  Or maybe you do, but you ignore the inconvenience.  The thing is, you make some valid points, but they’re really easy to disregard when they’re surrounded by so much nonsense and empty hostility.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, kickinkirby, if the child had the invitations taken away, then the implication is that the teacher did not take him aside and say something to the effect of, &quot;You can&#039;t do that here&quot; or &quot;Do it on your own time&quot;. The invitations did not go back to the child at the end of the day, as the word &quot;confiscation&quot; implies. If you are driving with an ounce of weed in your car and the cops confiscate it, you aren&#039;t getting back are you? I am sure that even if the teacher didn&#039;t stand this boy in front of the class and call him a selfish little beast, that if anyone was humiliated and upset, it was that boy. After all, what we do know is that the boy took it pretty hard, and we do know that the invitations were not taken away until after he had handed them out, which means that everyone in the class saw what happened and was in fact, a part of the whole scene. It&#039;s not like the teacher saw the invitations in his book bag and took them without making an issue of the whole thing. Nope, she gathered them all up when she saw that two of the kids didn&#039;t get one. And yes, that&#039;s rude, humiliating, and rotten.

So, while I will admit that yes, I strongly worded my statements, I don&#039;t believe that based on the information we have, that it is entirely inaccurate. As far as I am concerned, that teacher is a tool and a harpy. 

I&#039;m not worked up over this, personally. I&#039;d be hard pressed to get &quot;worked up&quot; over much. I have fun with stuff until it bores me. I just find it strange how people are quick to defend the two uninvited guests when we have no word on how they even feel about it, and do know that they are not friends of this child. While I also think that the dad would have done better to rip the teacher and school administration a new one, that he is suddenly a jerk for defending his kid who had property stolen from him at the highest level he can is pretty crazy to me. After all, people defend parents who go to stupid lengths for far more frivolous things. And, for all we know, that is the only way to handle it in Sweden. I am not up on Swedish law.

Anyhow, I&#039;ve been pretty bored with this post for a long time, so I&#039;m done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, kickinkirby, if the child had the invitations taken away, then the implication is that the teacher did not take him aside and say something to the effect of, "You can't do that here" or "Do it on your own time". The invitations did not go back to the child at the end of the day, as the word "confiscation" implies. If you are driving with an ounce of weed in your car and the cops confiscate it, you aren't getting back are you? I am sure that even if the teacher didn't stand this boy in front of the class and call him a selfish little beast, that if anyone was humiliated and upset, it was that boy. After all, what we do know is that the boy took it pretty hard, and we do know that the invitations were not taken away until after he had handed them out, which means that everyone in the class saw what happened and was in fact, a part of the whole scene. It's not like the teacher saw the invitations in his book bag and took them without making an issue of the whole thing. Nope, she gathered them all up when she saw that two of the kids didn't get one. And yes, that's rude, humiliating, and rotten.</p>
<p>So, while I will admit that yes, I strongly worded my statements, I don't believe that based on the information we have, that it is entirely inaccurate. As far as I am concerned, that teacher is a tool and a harpy. </p>
<p>I'm not worked up over this, personally. I'd be hard pressed to get "worked up" over much. I have fun with stuff until it bores me. I just find it strange how people are quick to defend the two uninvited guests when we have no word on how they even feel about it, and do know that they are not friends of this child. While I also think that the dad would have done better to rip the teacher and school administration a new one, that he is suddenly a jerk for defending his kid who had property stolen from him at the highest level he can is pretty crazy to me. After all, people defend parents who go to stupid lengths for far more frivolous things. And, for all we know, that is the only way to handle it in Sweden. I am not up on Swedish law.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I've been pretty bored with this post for a long time, so I'm done.</p>
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		<title>By: kickinkirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>kickinkirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have made it clear if something is unknown.&quot;  Uh, nooo, you haven’t at all.  I’ve been following these comments since the top, and you’ve attributed all kinds of behavior to the teacher that the article just doesn’t support.  For example, just one post earlier: &quot;So this kid is left with no invitations for his friends, an adult humiliating him and dressing him down rather than tactfully explaining what was wrong with what he did.&quot;  That’s four &quot;facts&quot; in just one sentence, none of which have any apparent basis in truth.  And not a clarification to be found.

I&#039;ve enjoyed watching you and c-dub get yourselves all twisted up over this, and while I don’t really agree with either of you, at least he stuck to the facts of the article.  I’m not sure why you’re so bent out of shape about the teacher anyway, since they were doing their job according to school policy.  (Sure, you can dispute the policy, but I wouldn’t expect a teacher to violate it on something as small as this, even if they didn’t agree with it.)  Hurling absurd insults around like &quot;harpy&quot; and &quot;tool&quot; without any evidence either way just makes you come across like a lunatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I have made it clear if something is unknown."  Uh, nooo, you haven’t at all.  I’ve been following these comments since the top, and you’ve attributed all kinds of behavior to the teacher that the article just doesn’t support.  For example, just one post earlier: "So this kid is left with no invitations for his friends, an adult humiliating him and dressing him down rather than tactfully explaining what was wrong with what he did."  That’s four "facts" in just one sentence, none of which have any apparent basis in truth.  And not a clarification to be found.</p>
<p>I've enjoyed watching you and c-dub get yourselves all twisted up over this, and while I don’t really agree with either of you, at least he stuck to the facts of the article.  I’m not sure why you’re so bent out of shape about the teacher anyway, since they were doing their job according to school policy.  (Sure, you can dispute the policy, but I wouldn’t expect a teacher to violate it on something as small as this, even if they didn’t agree with it.)  Hurling absurd insults around like "harpy" and "tool" without any evidence either way just makes you come across like a lunatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean really, at least we KNOW that invitation boy was very upset.</description>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not squirming, but if it makes you feel better to think that I am, here&#039;s a bit bootie shake.

The teacher confiscated the invitations, which strongly implies, though I did say we don&#039;t know for sure, that she did not give them back. Either way, though, that&#039;s worse than the snub. 

So yeah, I&#039;ll take the last word. The teacher was wrong. There is never tact in confiscation and making two left out kids an issue. I have made it clear if something is unknown. Do you know if the two kids who were snubbed were actually, you know, bothered? Uhm...no. The teacher decided that they were according to our information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not squirming, but if it makes you feel better to think that I am, here's a bit bootie shake.</p>
<p>The teacher confiscated the invitations, which strongly implies, though I did say we don't know for sure, that she did not give them back. Either way, though, that's worse than the snub. </p>
<p>So yeah, I'll take the last word. The teacher was wrong. There is never tact in confiscation and making two left out kids an issue. I have made it clear if something is unknown. Do you know if the two kids who were snubbed were actually, you know, bothered? Uhm...no. The teacher decided that they were according to our information.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you getting this stuff?  The teacher humiliated him and dressed him down rather than tactfully explaining?  It’s fascinating that you’re able to infer so much information that isn’t even hinted at in the article.  I’m happy to carry on watching you squirm your way through this little debate, but the point at which you start inventing evidence to bolster your opinion, I’m done.  So, the last word is yours: knock yourself out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you getting this stuff?  The teacher humiliated him and dressed him down rather than tactfully explaining?  It’s fascinating that you’re able to infer so much information that isn’t even hinted at in the article.  I’m happy to carry on watching you squirm your way through this little debate, but the point at which you start inventing evidence to bolster your opinion, I’m done.  So, the last word is yours: knock yourself out.</p>
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		<title>By: easy_mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>easy_mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are after all talking about the country where this ice-cream got withdrawn from the market: http://www.invandring.se/arkiv/nogger_1201.jpg
For the non-swedes here, the original ice cream is called Nogger, and has a tan colored caramel coating. They tried a seasonal variant of the ice-cream, replaced the caramel with a black licorice coating and called it subsequently Nogger Black. Now guess why that raised some outraged eyebrows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are after all talking about the country where this ice-cream got withdrawn from the market: <a href="http://www.invandring.se/arkiv/nogger_1201.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.invandring.se/arkiv/nogger_1201.jpg</a><br />
For the non-swedes here, the original ice cream is called Nogger, and has a tan colored caramel coating. They tried a seasonal variant of the ice-cream, replaced the caramel with a black licorice coating and called it subsequently Nogger Black. Now guess why that raised some outraged eyebrows.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not offensive so much as it is overused for every little emotional bruise, and in this case, hardly applicable, especially since those kids were going to feel the snub regardless. Had this kid, if he had mailed the invitations to their houses, been banned from ever referring to the party in school afterward because someone might get hurt? Seriously, that&#039;s a bit much.

Is it okay to shoot a mosquito with an elephant gun as this teacher did with heavy handed, power tripping behavior? The disregard she showed this kid was worse than anything the snubbed kids might have felt and far more damaging, as snubbing two people that aren&#039;t your friends to begin with is hardly damaging. Did he get his invitations back after class? Probably not, though we can&#039;t say either way. 

So this kid is left with no invitations for his friends, an adult humiliating him and dressing him down rather than tactfully explaining what was wrong with what he did, and half the internet and all of Swedish Parliament debating the issue. Yeah, I think that&#039;s a bit worse than being snubbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not offensive so much as it is overused for every little emotional bruise, and in this case, hardly applicable, especially since those kids were going to feel the snub regardless. Had this kid, if he had mailed the invitations to their houses, been banned from ever referring to the party in school afterward because someone might get hurt? Seriously, that's a bit much.</p>
<p>Is it okay to shoot a mosquito with an elephant gun as this teacher did with heavy handed, power tripping behavior? The disregard she showed this kid was worse than anything the snubbed kids might have felt and far more damaging, as snubbing two people that aren't your friends to begin with is hardly damaging. Did he get his invitations back after class? Probably not, though we can't say either way. </p>
<p>So this kid is left with no invitations for his friends, an adult humiliating him and dressing him down rather than tactfully explaining what was wrong with what he did, and half the internet and all of Swedish Parliament debating the issue. Yeah, I think that's a bit worse than being snubbed.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I think the fact that you find the phrase &quot;disregarding the emotions of other people&quot; so offensive says it all.</description>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, c-dub, I would say that your sense of empathy is sadly misplaced.</description>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can make all the assumptions you&#039;d like about me, c-dub. I really don&#039;t care. I don&#039;t see the big deal in this. The teacher is a tool for the way he/she handled the situation. The invitations were confiscated, and we must assume that the boy didn&#039;t get them back at the end of the day. All she had to do was pull him aside and talk to him about it quietly if she disapproved.

As for the dad, I wouldn&#039;t have gone to Parliament with it, but I would have raised unholy hell at the school. 

The kid was planning a party and he was excited to invite his friends. I&#039;m sure he wasn&#039;t out to &quot;openly disregard the emotions of other people&quot;, which is a phrase that smells so badly of PC it hurts to type. And we don&#039;t even know if the other two kids cared anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make all the assumptions you'd like about me, c-dub. I really don't care. I don't see the big deal in this. The teacher is a tool for the way he/she handled the situation. The invitations were confiscated, and we must assume that the boy didn't get them back at the end of the day. All she had to do was pull him aside and talk to him about it quietly if she disapproved.</p>
<p>As for the dad, I wouldn't have gone to Parliament with it, but I would have raised unholy hell at the school. </p>
<p>The kid was planning a party and he was excited to invite his friends. I'm sure he wasn't out to "openly disregard the emotions of other people", which is a phrase that smells so badly of PC it hurts to type. And we don't even know if the other two kids cared anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hell with Parliament.

This is a job for the United Nations!</description>
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<p>This is a job for the United Nations!</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evilbeagle:

If you honestly don’t think that it’s rude for a kid to walk around a classroom passing out party invitations only to exclude two of the kids, well, I think you’re suffering from an acute lack of empathy.  Yes, it’s the slighted kid’s choice to feel bad, but all of us have a choice in how we react to any insult: that never absolves the person doing the insulting.  (And thank you for the detailed description of all the possible “disruptions,” but none of my comments have been based on the idea of anyone disrupting anything, so I’m not sure what you’re getting at.  I don’t think that passing out invitations, or gathering them back up again, is much of a disruption either way.)

I agree that kids slight each other all the time, and it’s nothing to get all that worked up about (my complaint is really with the father) but I do absolutely think it should be dealt with if it’s done openly.  Any kid who sees their teacher ignore an open insult in the classroom would have to think, “Huh, I guess that’s a fine way to act, the teacher sat right there and watched it and didn’t say a thing.”  I don’t think the teacher just had a right, I think they had an obligation to deal with it: an obligation that extends to the kid with the invitations as well as the kids that were passed over.  Ignoring crass behavior is not a character-builder, as you seem to think.

At the same time I don’t think the kid’s behavior is worth getting worked up over, I don’t think a teacher gathering up invitations is worth getting worked up over either – certainly not to the point where I’d start calling anyone a “rabid harpy” or a “tool” or accuse them of stealing the invitations, or of acting like a “spoiled child.”  Yow.  The article simply states that the teacher took the invitations, so it seems fair to say that you’ve got the same inclination for hysterical overreaction as the father of this kid.

And finally, I agree that kids shouldn’t make the team or star in the play if they aren’t good enough – and they shouldn’t get the idea that treating their peers poorly will get them invited to parties, either.  Fair enough.  But by the very same token, they shouldn’t be given the idea that openly disregarding the emotions of other people is acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evilbeagle:</p>
<p>If you honestly don’t think that it’s rude for a kid to walk around a classroom passing out party invitations only to exclude two of the kids, well, I think you’re suffering from an acute lack of empathy.  Yes, it’s the slighted kid’s choice to feel bad, but all of us have a choice in how we react to any insult: that never absolves the person doing the insulting.  (And thank you for the detailed description of all the possible “disruptions,” but none of my comments have been based on the idea of anyone disrupting anything, so I’m not sure what you’re getting at.  I don’t think that passing out invitations, or gathering them back up again, is much of a disruption either way.)</p>
<p>I agree that kids slight each other all the time, and it’s nothing to get all that worked up about (my complaint is really with the father) but I do absolutely think it should be dealt with if it’s done openly.  Any kid who sees their teacher ignore an open insult in the classroom would have to think, “Huh, I guess that’s a fine way to act, the teacher sat right there and watched it and didn’t say a thing.”  I don’t think the teacher just had a right, I think they had an obligation to deal with it: an obligation that extends to the kid with the invitations as well as the kids that were passed over.  Ignoring crass behavior is not a character-builder, as you seem to think.</p>
<p>At the same time I don’t think the kid’s behavior is worth getting worked up over, I don’t think a teacher gathering up invitations is worth getting worked up over either – certainly not to the point where I’d start calling anyone a “rabid harpy” or a “tool” or accuse them of stealing the invitations, or of acting like a “spoiled child.”  Yow.  The article simply states that the teacher took the invitations, so it seems fair to say that you’ve got the same inclination for hysterical overreaction as the father of this kid.</p>
<p>And finally, I agree that kids shouldn’t make the team or star in the play if they aren’t good enough – and they shouldn’t get the idea that treating their peers poorly will get them invited to parties, either.  Fair enough.  But by the very same token, they shouldn’t be given the idea that openly disregarding the emotions of other people is acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/29/not-inviting-2-classmates-to-birthday-party-led-to-complaint-to-swedish-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-633924</link>
		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, c-dub, but you really aren&#039;t reading what I am saying anymore than you claimed I wasn&#039;t reading what you were saying. First off, not inviting someone to your party isn&#039;t mistreatment. It&#039;s not even rude. It&#039;s just a personal choice based on your relationship with that person. If that person chooses to feel bad, that&#039;s their problem. Perhaps it will teach Kid 1 a lesson in slighting people (and yes, that could come back to haunt this kid too...that&#039;s life). Perhaps Kid 2, who had a falling out with this kid, wouldn&#039;t even care. Either way, I&#039;m sure those kids aren&#039;t scarred for life.

The teacher acted inappropriately. She did not pay for the invitations or put work into them as this kid and his parents did, so she basically stole them. She humiliated rather than act in a way that might have taught the boy to be more tactful, but since teacher had no clue what tact really is, this happened. He was in no way obligated to invite those two kids, so why is the teacher punishing him so harshly by confiscating the invitations? The idea that it was such a disruption doesn&#039;t hold water. Were it just a matter of disrupting class, the teacher could have easily gotten the point across minus the drama, which was probably a bigger disruption than his handing out the invitations was in the first place. Had he invited the whole class, the invitations would not have been a disruption, but now that the parents are involved, it&#039;s convenient to call his handing out invitations a disruption, isn&#039;t it? 

Coming down on a child like some rabid harpy and taking his things is not deserved, and actually a bit cruel. It&#039;s one thing to allow a child to go through the little heartbreaks and humiliations that come along with childhood. Everyone&#039;s been slighted at one point or another. Everyone has done the slighting at one point or another too. That&#039;s normal, natural, and not really a big deal. Again, I&#039;m sure that the uninvited kids will live.

Talking to someone about a behavior they feel is inappropriate when the child was acting innocently is not coddling. The teacher could have done this, but instead chose to be a tool. 

The logic you are claiming is mine is conveniently and wrongly twisted. Children shouldn&#039;t make the team if they can&#039;t hit the ball and it sucks. Children shouldn&#039;t be coddled and told that they can all be Snow White. Children should learn that treating their peers like crap won&#039;t get them invited to the party. However, an adult has no business acting like a spoiled child and should know better than to call someone out the way she did this kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, c-dub, but you really aren't reading what I am saying anymore than you claimed I wasn't reading what you were saying. First off, not inviting someone to your party isn't mistreatment. It's not even rude. It's just a personal choice based on your relationship with that person. If that person chooses to feel bad, that's their problem. Perhaps it will teach Kid 1 a lesson in slighting people (and yes, that could come back to haunt this kid too...that's life). Perhaps Kid 2, who had a falling out with this kid, wouldn't even care. Either way, I'm sure those kids aren't scarred for life.</p>
<p>The teacher acted inappropriately. She did not pay for the invitations or put work into them as this kid and his parents did, so she basically stole them. She humiliated rather than act in a way that might have taught the boy to be more tactful, but since teacher had no clue what tact really is, this happened. He was in no way obligated to invite those two kids, so why is the teacher punishing him so harshly by confiscating the invitations? The idea that it was such a disruption doesn't hold water. Were it just a matter of disrupting class, the teacher could have easily gotten the point across minus the drama, which was probably a bigger disruption than his handing out the invitations was in the first place. Had he invited the whole class, the invitations would not have been a disruption, but now that the parents are involved, it's convenient to call his handing out invitations a disruption, isn't it? </p>
<p>Coming down on a child like some rabid harpy and taking his things is not deserved, and actually a bit cruel. It's one thing to allow a child to go through the little heartbreaks and humiliations that come along with childhood. Everyone's been slighted at one point or another. Everyone has done the slighting at one point or another too. That's normal, natural, and not really a big deal. Again, I'm sure that the uninvited kids will live.</p>
<p>Talking to someone about a behavior they feel is inappropriate when the child was acting innocently is not coddling. The teacher could have done this, but instead chose to be a tool. </p>
<p>The logic you are claiming is mine is conveniently and wrongly twisted. Children shouldn't make the team if they can't hit the ball and it sucks. Children shouldn't be coddled and told that they can all be Snow White. Children should learn that treating their peers like crap won't get them invited to the party. However, an adult has no business acting like a spoiled child and should know better than to call someone out the way she did this kid.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/29/not-inviting-2-classmates-to-birthday-party-led-to-complaint-to-swedish-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-633817</link>
		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MrPumpernickel:

No, I don&#039;t necessarily expect the kid to think of that.  That&#039;s why there&#039;s a teacher in the room: to teach those exact lessons (which is what the teacher did).

@Evilbeagle:

If a teacher sees a kid mistreating another kid, it’s appropriate for him/her to act directly, and not mince around – and if that means the whole class sees it, all the better: if they saw the slight, they should see the consequences so they understand the cause and the effect – and don’t just assume that the teacher condoned the behavior.  And anyway, by your logic, the teacher isn’t a tool: the kid should have been publicly humiliated.  I mean, why would you want to protect a child from humiliation?  The sooner he’s humiliated, the sooner he’ll learn to deal with it.  You don’t want him to grow up all coddled and soft, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MrPumpernickel:</p>
<p>No, I don't necessarily expect the kid to think of that.  That's why there's a teacher in the room: to teach those exact lessons (which is what the teacher did).</p>
<p>@Evilbeagle:</p>
<p>If a teacher sees a kid mistreating another kid, it’s appropriate for him/her to act directly, and not mince around – and if that means the whole class sees it, all the better: if they saw the slight, they should see the consequences so they understand the cause and the effect – and don’t just assume that the teacher condoned the behavior.  And anyway, by your logic, the teacher isn’t a tool: the kid should have been publicly humiliated.  I mean, why would you want to protect a child from humiliation?  The sooner he’s humiliated, the sooner he’ll learn to deal with it.  You don’t want him to grow up all coddled and soft, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The teacher blew things right out of proportion. All she had to do was pull the kid aside and ask him to do it either a. on his own time, or b. during a break in the day where it would not be as obvious to the other kids (like they weren&#039;t going to find out if they&#039;d been mailed anyhow). To take them away from the kid was ten times more humiliating for the kid that it would have been for the two uninvited kids no matter how it was done. The teacher is a tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The teacher blew things right out of proportion. All she had to do was pull the kid aside and ask him to do it either a. on his own time, or b. during a break in the day where it would not be as obvious to the other kids (like they weren't going to find out if they'd been mailed anyhow). To take them away from the kid was ten times more humiliating for the kid that it would have been for the two uninvited kids no matter how it was done. The teacher is a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: MrPumpernickel</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/29/not-inviting-2-classmates-to-birthday-party-led-to-complaint-to-swedish-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-633497</link>
		<dc:creator>MrPumpernickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just do it in a reasonably polite way! Seriously, it’s not that complicated.&quot;

He&#039;s a kid, do you really expect him to think in those ways?

It&#039;s easy to sit here as youths and adults and think that it would be obvious that the kid should take these things in concern, but frankly young children aren&#039;t developed enough to do so. He probably didn&#039;t think it was either rude or polite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Just do it in a reasonably polite way! Seriously, it’s not that complicated."</p>
<p>He's a kid, do you really expect him to think in those ways?</p>
<p>It's easy to sit here as youths and adults and think that it would be obvious that the kid should take these things in concern, but frankly young children aren't developed enough to do so. He probably didn't think it was either rude or polite.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/29/not-inviting-2-classmates-to-birthday-party-led-to-complaint-to-swedish-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-633264</link>
		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MrPumpernickel:

Right, exactly: he didn’t have to invite everyone, if he did it privately.  That is to say, he didn’t HAVE TO invite everyone.  Several people keep asked, “What’s wrong with not inviting everyone?”  Nothing!  Just do it in a reasonably polite way!  Seriously, it’s not that complicated.

And while I very strongly agree that we shouldn’t be overprotective of our children – that does seem to be an increasing problem here in the US and perhaps other places – I don’t think that means condoning blatant rudeness when we see it.  The flipside of your argument (that we should let kids be exposed to difficult situations so they learn how to deal with them) is that it teaches other kids that acting like jerks is acceptable.  There are plenty of injustices available to kids; we don’t need to actively condone the ones that occur under our watch.  They are children, after all: it’s our obligation to protect them, just as it’s our obligation to tell them when they’ve screwed up.

@Evilbeagle:

I’m sorry, but it is rude for a kid to walk around an entire classroom passing out invitations, and skip two kids.  If you don’t see that, then any argument about social engagement or empathy will be lost on you.  But I do agree with your second point: the father’s reaction actually is a valid argument against PC extremism – but simple courtesy is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MrPumpernickel:</p>
<p>Right, exactly: he didn’t have to invite everyone, if he did it privately.  That is to say, he didn’t HAVE TO invite everyone.  Several people keep asked, “What’s wrong with not inviting everyone?”  Nothing!  Just do it in a reasonably polite way!  Seriously, it’s not that complicated.</p>
<p>And while I very strongly agree that we shouldn’t be overprotective of our children – that does seem to be an increasing problem here in the US and perhaps other places – I don’t think that means condoning blatant rudeness when we see it.  The flipside of your argument (that we should let kids be exposed to difficult situations so they learn how to deal with them) is that it teaches other kids that acting like jerks is acceptable.  There are plenty of injustices available to kids; we don’t need to actively condone the ones that occur under our watch.  They are children, after all: it’s our obligation to protect them, just as it’s our obligation to tell them when they’ve screwed up.</p>
<p>@Evilbeagle:</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but it is rude for a kid to walk around an entire classroom passing out invitations, and skip two kids.  If you don’t see that, then any argument about social engagement or empathy will be lost on you.  But I do agree with your second point: the father’s reaction actually is a valid argument against PC extremism – but simple courtesy is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/29/not-inviting-2-classmates-to-birthday-party-led-to-complaint-to-swedish-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-633176</link>
		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it impolite to not invite two people you aren&#039;t friends with to a party? It&#039;s not rude if he is not disrupting the class. A teacher can and should correct bad behavior, but it&#039;s not his or her business to get bent out of shape over a snub. And remember, the one kid that was not invited didn&#039;t invite him to a party earlier. How come that was not an issue at the time? We don&#039;t know if that kid handed out invitations in class, granted, but that&#039;s what most kids do when they have a party.

Did it occur to you that this PC idiocy is why the father got fed up and took the issue to the government? Is it extreme? Sure. I would have just dealt with it through a conference with the teacher. However, this coddling and making everyone feel special trend is producing a bunch of soft people that are kept in a bubble until the big bad world drives them to file frivolous lawsuits because someone distressed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it impolite to not invite two people you aren't friends with to a party? It's not rude if he is not disrupting the class. A teacher can and should correct bad behavior, but it's not his or her business to get bent out of shape over a snub. And remember, the one kid that was not invited didn't invite him to a party earlier. How come that was not an issue at the time? We don't know if that kid handed out invitations in class, granted, but that's what most kids do when they have a party.</p>
<p>Did it occur to you that this PC idiocy is why the father got fed up and took the issue to the government? Is it extreme? Sure. I would have just dealt with it through a conference with the teacher. However, this coddling and making everyone feel special trend is producing a bunch of soft people that are kept in a bubble until the big bad world drives them to file frivolous lawsuits because someone distressed them.</p>
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		<title>By: MrPumpernickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrPumpernickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t think anyone is saying the kid actually had to invite everyone.&quot;

Yes, the school policy was that if you&#039;re going to invite people to your birthday party (while you&#039;re on school grounds) you have to invite your entire class, or just the boys if it&#039;s a boys party and likewise for girls. Had he done it in private that would have been another matter. 

In my mind the policy is idiotic, it&#039;s all part of this PC culture which&#039;s main concern is to protect the young. Hogwash, they need to learn at an early age what disappointment means otherwise they won&#039;t be able to tackle it in adult life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I don’t think anyone is saying the kid actually had to invite everyone."</p>
<p>Yes, the school policy was that if you're going to invite people to your birthday party (while you're on school grounds) you have to invite your entire class, or just the boys if it's a boys party and likewise for girls. Had he done it in private that would have been another matter. </p>
<p>In my mind the policy is idiotic, it's all part of this PC culture which's main concern is to protect the young. Hogwash, they need to learn at an early age what disappointment means otherwise they won't be able to tackle it in adult life.</p>
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		<title>By: c-dub</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/29/not-inviting-2-classmates-to-birthday-party-led-to-complaint-to-swedish-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-633166</link>
		<dc:creator>c-dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Superunknown and Evilbeagle:

I understood Babymech&#039;s point, but perhaps you missed mine: I don&#039;t think the father should have taken the issue ANYWHERE beyond the walls of his own house.  This is not an issue to take to the government.  His son made the mistake, so he should deal with this son.    And I&#039;m not sure why this is so hard to understand, but NO ONE IS SAYING THE KID HAS TO INVITE EVERYONE.  They&#039;re saying that if he wants to exclude a couple of kids, that’s fine, just don&#039;t pass out the invitations in class.

I don&#039;t know if it was the kid&#039;s responsibility to avoid the snub (he is eight, after all) or the father&#039;s (he may not have know about it) but it was ultimately left to the teacher to control behavior in his/her classroom.  I&#039;m kind of amazed that you think there&#039;s something wrong with correcting rude behavior in a classroom.  Teaching our kids how to be polite is the opposite of &quot;keeping them in a bubble,&quot; it&#039;s teaching them how to engage in society, which is one of fundamental reasons we send them to school in the first place.  And if you don&#039;t think we should teach our kids not to be rude just because the world is rude, well, ask yourself why the world is rude.

And your lazy PC argument is worn out.  If you want to end up with a bunch of whimpering weaklings, have their parents complain to the government every time they feel like their kids have been slighted.  It wasn&#039;t the kids who didn&#039;t get the invitations who caused the ruckus, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Superunknown and Evilbeagle:</p>
<p>I understood Babymech's point, but perhaps you missed mine: I don't think the father should have taken the issue ANYWHERE beyond the walls of his own house.  This is not an issue to take to the government.  His son made the mistake, so he should deal with this son.    And I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand, but NO ONE IS SAYING THE KID HAS TO INVITE EVERYONE.  They're saying that if he wants to exclude a couple of kids, that’s fine, just don't pass out the invitations in class.</p>
<p>I don't know if it was the kid's responsibility to avoid the snub (he is eight, after all) or the father's (he may not have know about it) but it was ultimately left to the teacher to control behavior in his/her classroom.  I'm kind of amazed that you think there's something wrong with correcting rude behavior in a classroom.  Teaching our kids how to be polite is the opposite of "keeping them in a bubble," it's teaching them how to engage in society, which is one of fundamental reasons we send them to school in the first place.  And if you don't think we should teach our kids not to be rude just because the world is rude, well, ask yourself why the world is rude.</p>
<p>And your lazy PC argument is worn out.  If you want to end up with a bunch of whimpering weaklings, have their parents complain to the government every time they feel like their kids have been slighted.  It wasn't the kids who didn't get the invitations who caused the ruckus, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t have time just now to read all comments but want to say that c-dub is correct. How about Pop growing up and handling the whole thing in an adult manner. &quot;School is for learning. I&#039;ll mail these invitations so as not to cause interruptions or upsetment in class.&quot; The two not-invited kids would have found out anyway but they would not have been publically humiliated. As for taking the whole matter to Parliment?? OMG! Grow up, Pop, &amp; set an good example to your kid - there&#039;s usually a kind, and intelligent, way to handle a situation - your choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't have time just now to read all comments but want to say that c-dub is correct. How about Pop growing up and handling the whole thing in an adult manner. "School is for learning. I'll mail these invitations so as not to cause interruptions or upsetment in class." The two not-invited kids would have found out anyway but they would not have been publically humiliated. As for taking the whole matter to Parliment?? OMG! Grow up, Pop, &amp; set an good example to your kid - there's usually a kind, and intelligent, way to handle a situation - your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mé</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if two kids won&#039;t be able to play with IKEA&#039;s balls (in the ball pit) at a birthday party.  Heck, when I was young, I didn&#039;t invite everyone in a class of 30.  I was lucky if I could invite four or five friends sometimes.  We played table hockey and ate cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if two kids won't be able to play with IKEA's balls (in the ball pit) at a birthday party.  Heck, when I was young, I didn't invite everyone in a class of 30.  I was lucky if I could invite four or five friends sometimes.  We played table hockey and ate cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanium</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though the invitations were cofiscated, they had already been handed, meaning all the guests had been invited. The school could not and did not (as far as I get it) cancel the birthday party, so what&#039;s the big deal? The farther just overreacted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though the invitations were cofiscated, they had already been handed, meaning all the guests had been invited. The school could not and did not (as far as I get it) cancel the birthday party, so what's the big deal? The farther just overreacted.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superunknown pretty much said it right there, but I&#039;m just responding to c-dub. It is a PC driven bit of drivel when you are not allowed to hand out party invitations to everyone but those two kids that aren&#039;t your friends to begin with. Again, none of us really know whether he did this in a disruptive manner or if the teacher happened to notice and made an issue out of it. However, as Superunknown has said, it&#039;s not the kid&#039;s responsibility to avoid the snub nor the teacher&#039;s to prevent it. You wouldn&#039;t invite people to your house that you don&#039;t like, would you? That&#039;s not being mean. 

It seems that the people outraged by this and insisting that it should be all or none invited are bitter that they didn&#039;t get an invitation to something at some point and are still angry, or are of the kind who think the losing team deserves a trophy too and that there should be 25 Snow Whites. That&#039;s not how life works.

Besides, even if he had mailed the invitations, after the party, the two kids that weren&#039;t invited would feel snubbed anyway because the other kids would be talking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superunknown pretty much said it right there, but I'm just responding to c-dub. It is a PC driven bit of drivel when you are not allowed to hand out party invitations to everyone but those two kids that aren't your friends to begin with. Again, none of us really know whether he did this in a disruptive manner or if the teacher happened to notice and made an issue out of it. However, as Superunknown has said, it's not the kid's responsibility to avoid the snub nor the teacher's to prevent it. You wouldn't invite people to your house that you don't like, would you? That's not being mean. </p>
<p>It seems that the people outraged by this and insisting that it should be all or none invited are bitter that they didn't get an invitation to something at some point and are still angry, or are of the kind who think the losing team deserves a trophy too and that there should be 25 Snow Whites. That's not how life works.</p>
<p>Besides, even if he had mailed the invitations, after the party, the two kids that weren't invited would feel snubbed anyway because the other kids would be talking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSuperunknown</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheSuperunknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c-dub: You don&#039;t seem to understand Babymech&#039;s point. The wording &quot;led to complaint to Swedish parliament&quot; is misleading. He did not &quot;take it much further than was appropriate&quot; - he took it to the *only* place, which is inherently appropriate. As Babymech explained, if you have a complaint to file regarding an employee of the government, you direct it to your ombudsman, whose specific job it is to represent the public interest and receive their complaints. This is what the father did. Critical reading - it&#039;s a valuable skill.

As for the kid...well boo-hoo, so two of his classmates didn&#039;t get invited, one of whom snubbed the kid in the first place. Would it have been more tactful to not snub them in public? Sure. That doesn&#039;t make it the kid&#039;s responsibility to avoid it, nor the teacher&#039;s to prevent it. Why keep these kids in a bubble? One day, they&#039;ll have to learn that that&#039;s just how life is; the sooner, the better. Try and &#039;protect&#039; them, and you&#039;re just going to end up with a generation of whimpering weaklings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c-dub: You don't seem to understand Babymech's point. The wording "led to complaint to Swedish parliament" is misleading. He did not "take it much further than was appropriate" - he took it to the *only* place, which is inherently appropriate. As Babymech explained, if you have a complaint to file regarding an employee of the government, you direct it to your ombudsman, whose specific job it is to represent the public interest and receive their complaints. This is what the father did. Critical reading - it's a valuable skill.</p>
<p>As for the kid...well boo-hoo, so two of his classmates didn't get invited, one of whom snubbed the kid in the first place. Would it have been more tactful to not snub them in public? Sure. That doesn't make it the kid's responsibility to avoid it, nor the teacher's to prevent it. Why keep these kids in a bubble? One day, they'll have to learn that that's just how life is; the sooner, the better. Try and 'protect' them, and you're just going to end up with a generation of whimpering weaklings.</p>
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		<title>By: prophet</title>
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		<dc:creator>prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids are kids. The problem is with the adults, the teacher should have talked to the father first and ask him to invite all the kids. Nothing beyond this should be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids are kids. The problem is with the adults, the teacher should have talked to the father first and ask him to invite all the kids. Nothing beyond this should be done.</p>
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		<title>By: clinton labombard</title>
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		<dc:creator>clinton labombard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solution: stop having birthday parties.

If a friend cares about your birthday, they&#039;ll let you know and to hell with anyone who didn&#039;t.  Either that or stop thinking that just because you were born means you&#039;re so goddamn special (you little snot-nosed brat).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solution: stop having birthday parties.</p>
<p>If a friend cares about your birthday, they'll let you know and to hell with anyone who didn't.  Either that or stop thinking that just because you were born means you're so goddamn special (you little snot-nosed brat).</p>
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