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	<title>Comments on: World&#8217;s First Church Found?</title>
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		<title>By: (Jackie,Miss World)Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-1958125</link>
		<dc:creator>(Jackie,Miss World)Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
This is very intresting, but I did not read the entire thing. I try to tell the truth and I am having trouble just trying.  I am doubting so many things around me.

Thank You,

Gateway Royal Prince Computer given to my sister and I using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
This is very intresting, but I did not read the entire thing. I try to tell the truth and I am having trouble just trying.  I am doubting so many things around me.</p>
<p>Thank You,</p>
<p>Gateway Royal Prince Computer given to my sister and I using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-614634</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder how rigorously they determined it was a Christian church rather some other kind of church, especially when they refer to it as possibly being &quot;the first church in the world&quot; as though no other religions existed before Christianity.

Worshippers of Dionysus, Mithra, and Osiris all believed that their god lived as an earthly human, was born of a virgin, turned water into wine at a wedding, was violently martyred in order to redeem humanity, rose from the dead after three days, etc. etc.  There are even iconic depictions of Dionysus showing him nailed to a cross in exactly the same posture commonly used for Jesus, with the knees together and the legs turned to one side.

A reputable, unbiased, decently-educated archeologist would probably be aware of all this and be able to tell the difference... but I can see how some fundie dickhead who thinks evolution is a sham and who is working from an agenda to spread his delusions to the rest of us might well ignore or even be ignorant of the possibility of this being a temple of Dionysus. Or Mithra. Or Osiris.

Meh, religion.  If there was a button that could be pushed to make all true believers of every religion on the planet disintegrate into their component atoms, you&#039;d have to kill me to stop me from pushing it at my very earliest opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder how rigorously they determined it was a Christian church rather some other kind of church, especially when they refer to it as possibly being &#8220;the first church in the world&#8221; as though no other religions existed before Christianity.</p>
<p>Worshippers of Dionysus, Mithra, and Osiris all believed that their god lived as an earthly human, was born of a virgin, turned water into wine at a wedding, was violently martyred in order to redeem humanity, rose from the dead after three days, etc. etc.  There are even iconic depictions of Dionysus showing him nailed to a cross in exactly the same posture commonly used for Jesus, with the knees together and the legs turned to one side.</p>
<p>A reputable, unbiased, decently-educated archeologist would probably be aware of all this and be able to tell the difference&#8230; but I can see how some fundie dickhead who thinks evolution is a sham and who is working from an agenda to spread his delusions to the rest of us might well ignore or even be ignorant of the possibility of this being a temple of Dionysus. Or Mithra. Or Osiris.</p>
<p>Meh, religion.  If there was a button that could be pushed to make all true believers of every religion on the planet disintegrate into their component atoms, you&#8217;d have to kill me to stop me from pushing it at my very earliest opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: prophet</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-613861</link>
		<dc:creator>prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At that time a term like &quot;church&quot; didn&#039;t even exist. It could be pagan also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At that time a term like &#8220;church&#8221; didn&#8217;t even exist. It could be pagan also.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-612943</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance we can get them to go BACK underground?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance we can get them to go BACK underground?</p>
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		<title>By: Vickie</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-611925</link>
		<dc:creator>Vickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first century believers did not worship in &quot;church&quot; buildings.  They met in the homes of other believers (as mentioned many times in the Book of Acts).  The Christian Church as a place came much later.  I&#039;d be interested to hear the results of the date testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first century believers did not worship in &#8220;church&#8221; buildings.  They met in the homes of other believers (as mentioned many times in the Book of Acts).  The Christian Church as a place came much later.  I&#8217;d be interested to hear the results of the date testing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-611687</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linking to less biased article (e.g. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7446812.stm) would have been preferable.  There are some more photos here: 
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/science/features/article_1410384.php/In_photos_Jordan_Archeology_-_oldest_Christian_church_in_the_world?page=9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linking to less biased article (e.g. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7446812.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7446812.stm</a>) would have been preferable.  There are some more photos here:<br />
<a href="http://www.monstersandcritics.com/science/features/article_1410384.php/In_photos_Jordan_Archeology_-_oldest_Christian_church_in_the_world?page=9" rel="nofollow">http://www.monstersandcritics.com/science/features/article_1410384.php &nbsp;/In_photos_Jordan_Archeology_-_oldest_Christian_church_in_the_world?p age=9</a></p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-611682</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s nitpicking.
Let&#039;s face it: the word &quot;church&quot; does mean both the building and the congregation.

And the article does say &quot;the oldest site of Christian worship&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s nitpicking.<br />
Let&#8217;s face it: the word &#8220;church&#8221; does mean both the building and the congregation.</p>
<p>And the article does say &#8220;the oldest site of Christian worship&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-610664</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, Dave?  Sounds exactly like nitpicking to me.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/worlds-first-church-found/comment-page-1/#comment-610498</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to pick nits, but this cave isn&#039;t a &quot;church&quot; any more than the house I live in is a &quot;family&quot;. The church, strictly speaking, is the people, not the building where they meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to pick nits, but this cave isn&#8217;t a &#8220;church&#8221; any more than the house I live in is a &#8220;family&#8221;. The church, strictly speaking, is the people, not the building where they meet.</p>
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