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	<title>Comments on: Wanted: Dying People for Art</title>
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		<title>By: Jerub-Baal</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-586251</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerub-Baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One misunderstanding of ethics keeps popping up in any of the discussions about this.   That is, that it can&#039;t be unethical because the subject agrees to it.

However, the subject of a scam or a ponzi scheme agrees to the terms of the scam, but that doesn&#039;t make said scam ethical.

I am not comparing Mr. Schneider to a scam artist, please!   I am merely pointing out that the willing participation of the subject, in and of itself, does not confer ethical respectability to the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One misunderstanding of ethics keeps popping up in any of the discussions about this.   That is, that it can't be unethical because the subject agrees to it.</p>
<p>However, the subject of a scam or a ponzi scheme agrees to the terms of the scam, but that doesn't make said scam ethical.</p>
<p>I am not comparing Mr. Schneider to a scam artist, please!   I am merely pointing out that the willing participation of the subject, in and of itself, does not confer ethical respectability to the project.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-586190</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wrong in so many ways.

Is it &quot;art&quot;? Here&#039;s the scale to test it on:

Will this be in a museum or even remembered in a thousand years&#039; time?

500 years?

A century?

A decade?

6 months?

Tomorrow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wrong in so many ways.</p>
<p>Is it "art"? Here's the scale to test it on:</p>
<p>Will this be in a museum or even remembered in a thousand years' time?</p>
<p>500 years?</p>
<p>A century?</p>
<p>A decade?</p>
<p>6 months?</p>
<p>Tomorrow?</p>
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		<title>By: Idil</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-585280</link>
		<dc:creator>Idil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful or not, it is definitely art.
However, to me it kind of comes off as an excuse for dealing with dying people...
Anyway, it is definitely not unethical because the it&#039;s based on the subject&#039;s choice.
I wouldn&#039;t want to browse a gallery of it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful or not, it is definitely art.<br />
However, to me it kind of comes off as an excuse for dealing with dying people...<br />
Anyway, it is definitely not unethical because the it's based on the subject's choice.<br />
I wouldn't want to browse a gallery of it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempscire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tempscire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume the &quot;beautiful&quot; part comes before the bowels evacuate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume the "beautiful" part comes before the bowels evacuate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-585116</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what&#039;s so bad about it. I guess art is doomed to be the most objective thing in existence, but I didn&#039;t expect so much opposition.

If anything, this will have a big impact on some people. If Art is about invoking a feeling, memory, opinion, etc in a person or a group of people, than this is better than some mountainous landscape, right? 

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s wrong or that you have to be a lunatic to want to put your death  on display. Some people want to die alone at home, and some would want to do something like this. It&#039;s your death, I say do whatever the hell you want with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't see what's so bad about it. I guess art is doomed to be the most objective thing in existence, but I didn't expect so much opposition.</p>
<p>If anything, this will have a big impact on some people. If Art is about invoking a feeling, memory, opinion, etc in a person or a group of people, than this is better than some mountainous landscape, right? </p>
<p>I don't think it's wrong or that you have to be a lunatic to want to put your death  on display. Some people want to die alone at home, and some would want to do something like this. It's your death, I say do whatever the hell you want with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peeves</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-584619</link>
		<dc:creator>Peeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was my second comment, with no links that triggered it. The first one had no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was my second comment, with no links that triggered it. The first one had no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Video Game Dork</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-584524</link>
		<dc:creator>Video Game Dork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing wrong with dying. 

There is also nothing beautiful about death. 

It can be pain, or it can be peace. But romanticing it is just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with dying. </p>
<p>There is also nothing beautiful about death. </p>
<p>It can be pain, or it can be peace. But romanticing it is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware so much art was happening in a hospital.

I hope no one actually PAYS to see this exhibit.  You can go into the intensive care unit or the cancer wing of any hospital and see this &quot;art.&quot;

There is beauty in death, that&#039;s for sure.  But this guy just comes off as someone trying to make a profit out of a spectacle.  It reminds me of that &quot;artist&quot; whose exhibit was letting a dog slowly die over several days.  At least in this case he&#039;ll have a willing volunteer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn't aware so much art was happening in a hospital.</p>
<p>I hope no one actually PAYS to see this exhibit.  You can go into the intensive care unit or the cancer wing of any hospital and see this "art."</p>
<p>There is beauty in death, that's for sure.  But this guy just comes off as someone trying to make a profit out of a spectacle.  It reminds me of that "artist" whose exhibit was letting a dog slowly die over several days.  At least in this case he'll have a willing volunteer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely &lt;b&gt;NOT&lt;/b&gt; art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely <b>NOT</b> art.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the link set off the auto-moderation.  To make sure you weren&#039;t spamming.  Just guessing, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the link set off the auto-moderation.  To make sure you weren't spamming.  Just guessing, though.</p>
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		<title>By: sw</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-583870</link>
		<dc:creator>sw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peeves, that was an amazing link.  thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peeves, that was an amazing link.  thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregor just need to keep smoking whatever he&#039;s on and be his OWN participant in the &#039;art&#039;.

At the very least he needs NOT TO BREED.

As cartoon character Hank Hill would say, &quot;There&#039;s just somethin&#039; not right about that boy....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregor just need to keep smoking whatever he's on and be his OWN participant in the 'art'.</p>
<p>At the very least he needs NOT TO BREED.</p>
<p>As cartoon character Hank Hill would say, "There's just somethin' not right about that boy...."</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how I feel about this. I know I wouldn&#039;t call it art, but I don&#039;t know if I am intrigued or disgusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know how I feel about this. I know I wouldn't call it art, but I don't know if I am intrigued or disgusted.</p>
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		<title>By: Peeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, my previous comment about death and dying (with no swears) triggered the auto-moderatoratron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, my previous comment about death and dying (with no swears) triggered the auto-moderatoratron.</p>
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		<title>By: Peeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is unethical about death? Death should not be a taboo..it&#039;ll happen to every single one of us. That inevitable reaction of fear or disgust or confusion will make the point that maybe we should think about it more before it happens to someone we love or ourselves. There&#039;s nothing inherently wrong with dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is unethical about death? Death should not be a taboo..it'll happen to every single one of us. That inevitable reaction of fear or disgust or confusion will make the point that maybe we should think about it more before it happens to someone we love or ourselves. There's nothing inherently wrong with dying.</p>
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		<title>By: leanbeans</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-583329</link>
		<dc:creator>leanbeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering, wouldn&#039;t this breach some kind of ethics code ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering, wouldn't this breach some kind of ethics code ?</p>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-583110</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll find someone who&#039;ll volunteer for it.  After all it is Germany.  Some crazy folks hailing from there at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sure he'll find someone who'll volunteer for it.  After all it is Germany.  Some crazy folks hailing from there at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: fz</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/30/wanted-dying-people-for-art/comment-page-1/#comment-583098</link>
		<dc:creator>fz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like some kind of disturbed prick trying to appear profound.</description>
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		<title>By: Peeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of the artist that took pictures of people about to die (from illnesses like cancer mostly) and then a picture of them right after death. It was amazing: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/gallery/2008/mar/31/lifebeforedeath?picture=333325401</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the artist that took pictures of people about to die (from illnesses like cancer mostly) and then a picture of them right after death. It was amazing: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/gallery/2008/mar/31/lifebeforedeath?picture=333325401" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/gallery/2008/mar/31/lifebeforedeath? picture=333325401</a></p>
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