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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/22/gas-prices-how-high-is-too-high/comment-page-2/#comment-615730</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;US gas prices are high enough the day they match the rest of the world. At least ten bucks a gallon.&quot;

Yeah but do we get free healthcare and all the other goodies they get for paying such a high price via taxes? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"US gas prices are high enough the day they match the rest of the world. At least ten bucks a gallon."</p>
<p>Yeah but do we get free healthcare and all the other goodies they get for paying such a high price via taxes? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have one word for all of you War!</description>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope it gets worse because i dont care because hydrogen fuel cells are the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it gets worse because i dont care because hydrogen fuel cells are the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could care less what the Europeans think.  They have a different situation than we have.  We live in a much larger country, one that is larger in area than western Europe.  The logistics of our lives have been built around driving automobiles.  Americans should drive, as a society, more fuel efficient vehicles.  That can&#039;t be done overnight.

I have recently been shopping for a new, fuel efficient new car.  The vast majority of the choices are Japanese or Korean vehicles, and these vehicles are commanding  full sticker price and more.  The entire fleet of new vehicles for sale need to be trimmed down in size for greater fuel economy.  People are trading in their 8 cylinder Tahoes for small Toyotas, Nissans, etc.  

There are only 2 viable American made small cars, the Ford Focus and the Chevrolet Cobalt.  Chrysler has the Neon and quit making them.  The American automobile manufacturers are basically out of touch with reality, and have been for quite some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could care less what the Europeans think.  They have a different situation than we have.  We live in a much larger country, one that is larger in area than western Europe.  The logistics of our lives have been built around driving automobiles.  Americans should drive, as a society, more fuel efficient vehicles.  That can't be done overnight.</p>
<p>I have recently been shopping for a new, fuel efficient new car.  The vast majority of the choices are Japanese or Korean vehicles, and these vehicles are commanding  full sticker price and more.  The entire fleet of new vehicles for sale need to be trimmed down in size for greater fuel economy.  People are trading in their 8 cylinder Tahoes for small Toyotas, Nissans, etc.  </p>
<p>There are only 2 viable American made small cars, the Ford Focus and the Chevrolet Cobalt.  Chrysler has the Neon and quit making them.  The American automobile manufacturers are basically out of touch with reality, and have been for quite some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 10:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pol x 

I think LNG was 88 aus today.  And rising, like everything.  Petrol was $1.62 today :)

Where are you? I&#039;m in NT, Aus (which means my prices are probably higher than the average).

Since everything is so far away out here, it really hits everyone hard - but the Holdens - the 4x4&#039;s are the worst.  You see a car and you can predict the wage of the owner because it&#039;ll be based on it&#039;s fuel economy!  And fuel efficient cars are rising in price too, since everyone wants them... We&#039;re looking a bit backwards when I put it that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pol x </p>
<p>I think LNG was 88 aus today.  And rising, like everything.  Petrol was $1.62 today <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Where are you? I'm in NT, Aus (which means my prices are probably higher than the average).</p>
<p>Since everything is so far away out here, it really hits everyone hard - but the Holdens - the 4x4's are the worst.  You see a car and you can predict the wage of the owner because it'll be based on it's fuel economy!  And fuel efficient cars are rising in price too, since everyone wants them... We're looking a bit backwards when I put it that way!</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve pretty much stopped driving the car, and now use my scooter to get around (125cc Yamaha Vino).  It gets 70-90mpg, so filling up the 1-gallon tank every 1-2 weeks works out perfectly.  I can carry a passenger and fit three bags of groceries on it.  Only problem is trying to transport my cello :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We've pretty much stopped driving the car, and now use my scooter to get around (125cc Yamaha Vino).  It gets 70-90mpg, so filling up the 1-gallon tank every 1-2 weeks works out perfectly.  I can carry a passenger and fit three bags of groceries on it.  Only problem is trying to transport my cello <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Erin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a huge problem with the gas price. My car gets great milage, but I have to commute to school. I may have to DROP OUT of collage because I can&#039;t afford to drive there anymore. I live in Michigan which has no public transportation and isn&#039;t bike friendly in the least. There is no place to live by my school, and there is no place to work. The worst thing is if I drop out of school I&#039;ll have to pay my loans back for a degree I couldn&#039;t get because it was too expensive to drive to get said degree! Detroit is the &#039;Metro City&#039; and it&#039;s going to kill a lot of the already despretly poor people down here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a huge problem with the gas price. My car gets great milage, but I have to commute to school. I may have to DROP OUT of collage because I can't afford to drive there anymore. I live in Michigan which has no public transportation and isn't bike friendly in the least. There is no place to live by my school, and there is no place to work. The worst thing is if I drop out of school I'll have to pay my loans back for a degree I couldn't get because it was too expensive to drive to get said degree! Detroit is the 'Metro City' and it's going to kill a lot of the already despretly poor people down here.</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole

what is LPG going for these days in Oz?

folks who own the big old Holdens must be getting it in the neck.

I loved my 1970 Kingswood 186 wagon., Dirty Pierre was his name and he was a beaut.

3 in the tree.

I miss Melbourne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole</p>
<p>what is LPG going for these days in Oz?</p>
<p>folks who own the big old Holdens must be getting it in the neck.</p>
<p>I loved my 1970 Kingswood 186 wagon., Dirty Pierre was his name and he was a beaut.</p>
<p>3 in the tree.</p>
<p>I miss Melbourne</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 10:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I converted that to Australian dollars and litres, and that means you are paying 
$1.20 Aus = 1L 

Which means, compared to that, we (where I am in Aus) are paying 
$1.60 Aus = 1L

And that&#039;s a number that rises every day. :(

Diesel costs about $1.82 per litre and rises even faster.

For now, you guys are lucky!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I converted that to Australian dollars and litres, and that means you are paying<br />
$1.20 Aus = 1L </p>
<p>Which means, compared to that, we (where I am in Aus) are paying<br />
$1.60 Aus = 1L</p>
<p>And that's a number that rises every day. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Diesel costs about $1.82 per litre and rises even faster.</p>
<p>For now, you guys are lucky!</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have noticed for a long time that people always had enough money to lose gambling at the casinos in Nevada, Atlantic city, Tahoe,  riverboats, etc... they wasted a lot of money doing that! I guess now they will just have to buy gas with some of that money. They have always had money for what they really wanted to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have noticed for a long time that people always had enough money to lose gambling at the casinos in Nevada, Atlantic city, Tahoe,  riverboats, etc... they wasted a lot of money doing that! I guess now they will just have to buy gas with some of that money. They have always had money for what they really wanted to do!</p>
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		<title>By: AnUnSi</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnUnSi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too high is $1.01.

I recall paying $0.89 to $0.99 per gallon, not too many years ago.  

When I was growing up, less than 50 years ago, the gas station on our corner had gas for about $0.27 per gallon all year long.  A pack of cigarettes cost that same amount.

You youngsters should try to imagine what I am going through now.  It is torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too high is $1.01.</p>
<p>I recall paying $0.89 to $0.99 per gallon, not too many years ago.  </p>
<p>When I was growing up, less than 50 years ago, the gas station on our corner had gas for about $0.27 per gallon all year long.  A pack of cigarettes cost that same amount.</p>
<p>You youngsters should try to imagine what I am going through now.  It is torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no breaking point. You&#039;ll still need to go to work, school, shop, etc, whatever the price. You&#039;ll consume less, your other budget will suffer (movies, cellphone, Ipod and stuff). And you&#039;ll buy more insulation for your home from me :D *maniacal laugh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's no breaking point. You'll still need to go to work, school, shop, etc, whatever the price. You'll consume less, your other budget will suffer (movies, cellphone, Ipod and stuff). And you'll buy more insulation for your home from me <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  *maniacal laugh*</p>
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		<title>By: SenorMysterioso</title>
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		<dc:creator>SenorMysterioso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im considering getting a scooter for the summer but its not an option during the winter here.  I think the Honda Ruckus is ugly :) but fun.

I go on joy rides often.  I love driving, so the gas prices dont bother me much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im considering getting a scooter for the summer but its not an option during the winter here.  I think the Honda Ruckus is ugly <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but fun.</p>
<p>I go on joy rides often.  I love driving, so the gas prices dont bother me much.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m moving to NYC and I can&#039;t wait to sell my car. I hardly fill it up anymore as I work close to my house. But it&#039;s unfair that I can&#039;t just take a nice drive at night. Well, I guess &quot;unfair&quot; is the wrong word, since the &quot;petrol people&quot; have it much worse off, and also these joyrides aren&#039;t necessary. But I remember when I first got my car, just going for a drive with no destination was incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm moving to NYC and I can't wait to sell my car. I hardly fill it up anymore as I work close to my house. But it's unfair that I can't just take a nice drive at night. Well, I guess "unfair" is the wrong word, since the "petrol people" have it much worse off, and also these joyrides aren't necessary. But I remember when I first got my car, just going for a drive with no destination was incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Scooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own a 50cc Honda ruckus and get 100mpg, my commute to work is 20 miles there and back. filling up my gas tank (it holds 1.3 gallons) takes just a little more than the price of gas. I would suggest it to anyone who has about the same commute and can drive 35 all the way to work. plus it&#039;s way more fun than a car.

100 mpg is better than your hybrid single commuter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a 50cc Honda ruckus and get 100mpg, my commute to work is 20 miles there and back. filling up my gas tank (it holds 1.3 gallons) takes just a little more than the price of gas. I would suggest it to anyone who has about the same commute and can drive 35 all the way to work. plus it's way more fun than a car.</p>
<p>100 mpg is better than your hybrid single commuter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that adds to this is inflation. Gas may be going up, but so does the working wage, so do hamburgers, so does everything. You have to put it all in perspective. Gas used to cost a quarter...but not to many people made $8 an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that adds to this is inflation. Gas may be going up, but so does the working wage, so do hamburgers, so does everything. You have to put it all in perspective. Gas used to cost a quarter...but not to many people made $8 an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindysan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindysan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some nice tips for saving gas was posted....  That&#039;s helpful.  

I&#039;m not sure what our breaking point is (we are close to $4 where we are...).  I think at some point it will get to $10, especially if we elect McCain, and he up and invades Iran (or Bush does it before he leaves office).  

But perhaps if gas keeps going up like this, we will all start making enough noise for alternatives to be seriously looked at (not ethanol based on a food product however... that I think is proving a bad solution).  This might be a silver lining, environmentally, politically, and economically.  

Mindy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some nice tips for saving gas was posted....  That's helpful.  </p>
<p>I'm not sure what our breaking point is (we are close to $4 where we are...).  I think at some point it will get to $10, especially if we elect McCain, and he up and invades Iran (or Bush does it before he leaves office).  </p>
<p>But perhaps if gas keeps going up like this, we will all start making enough noise for alternatives to be seriously looked at (not ethanol based on a food product however... that I think is proving a bad solution).  This might be a silver lining, environmentally, politically, and economically.  </p>
<p>Mindy</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone explain to me why and how the gas companies are posting record profits, the nation is screaming that the price is too high and yet they aren&#039;t price gouging?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone explain to me why and how the gas companies are posting record profits, the nation is screaming that the price is too high and yet they aren't price gouging?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you price oil in terms of gold, it is actually a bit cheaper now than it was three years ago (it&#039;s been in a slow but steady decline).

The ONLY reason gas is so expensive now is because our government has been printing money like there&#039;s no tomorrow to pay for its wars and illegal surveillance programs, among other things.

If you convert your savings to gold or silver, you won&#039;t have to worry about food or gas inflation, since precious metals are inflation-proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you price oil in terms of gold, it is actually a bit cheaper now than it was three years ago (it's been in a slow but steady decline).</p>
<p>The ONLY reason gas is so expensive now is because our government has been printing money like there's no tomorrow to pay for its wars and illegal surveillance programs, among other things.</p>
<p>If you convert your savings to gold or silver, you won't have to worry about food or gas inflation, since precious metals are inflation-proof.</p>
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		<title>By: trestleboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>trestleboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking point? I&#039;m already there.  We switched to bicycling to work or walking as much as possible - and taking the public bus.  We&#039;re currently trying to sell a truck and go to one car for a year, with hopes of buying something that will work with bio-diesel.  My salary hasn&#039;t gone up any during the increase in gas, there&#039;s no other way to stay within a livable budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking point? I'm already there.  We switched to bicycling to work or walking as much as possible - and taking the public bus.  We're currently trying to sell a truck and go to one car for a year, with hopes of buying something that will work with bio-diesel.  My salary hasn't gone up any during the increase in gas, there's no other way to stay within a livable budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Ratko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ratko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, in Sebia the price is $7.8 per gallon, but bigger problem is that average sallary is $600. And traffic jams are still here... :)
Btw, it&#039;s all because oil cartels...</description>
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Btw, it's all because oil cartels...</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think of it as less of a Breaking Point as a Tipping Point.

The point at which people look around a nd see that the alternatives are right there but political payola , industrial inertia and share holder greed have all stopped  progress for  decades and will not assist in sorting things out unless they are again allowed near monopolies of any emergent industries.

The truely stagerringly awful fuel mileage of US cars is extraordinary.

The rise of the SUV in particular was The Big 3 auto manufacturers lobbying hard to have industrial vehicles excluded from laws governing gas mileage targets, then defining those 19th century buses  called SUVs as industrial vehicles,ie TRUCKS.

That&#039;s just the tip of the ice berg.

The thing is that carbon fibre bodies, double glazed car windows and alws controlling all vehicle mpg ratings are all easily doable right now, hell you don&#039;t even need to abandon the internal combustion engine at all.

Really, if you trimmed the car weight down by four fifths, which is waht carbon fibre would do, and installed double glazing thus n olonger needing domestic sized AC units, you could all sit in proper sized cars.

A one litre engince capacity is only a weak engine when it is dragging a huge an=mount of weight, remove most of the weight and it&#039;s quite a powerful unit.

But if you used modern super efficient engines , the ones that turn off at the lights or at idle, that&#039;d help too.

All I&#039;m saying is that a country that invented &quot;Armoury Technique&quot; the fore father of mass production, invented the aeroplane, the modern car and miryiad other innovations, it should be humiliating to be seen as as such a technologically remedial bunch nowadays.

The gas prices are only so high and hurt so badly because you you use so very much for so very little effect.

Come on USA, you&#039;re the heart of the industrial world, implement the innovations that are already at hand, revitalise your own economy, make detriot the motor city once more, except this time a carbon fibre motor city.

It is all here, all to hand and all doable.

Except that you now have a feudal ruling class who would rather see you all dead than dream of relinquishing their strrangle hold on power.

And remember, the Bush family, and all their pals consider themselves to be a superior species to you lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of it as less of a Breaking Point as a Tipping Point.</p>
<p>The point at which people look around a nd see that the alternatives are right there but political payola , industrial inertia and share holder greed have all stopped  progress for  decades and will not assist in sorting things out unless they are again allowed near monopolies of any emergent industries.</p>
<p>The truely stagerringly awful fuel mileage of US cars is extraordinary.</p>
<p>The rise of the SUV in particular was The Big 3 auto manufacturers lobbying hard to have industrial vehicles excluded from laws governing gas mileage targets, then defining those 19th century buses  called SUVs as industrial vehicles,ie TRUCKS.</p>
<p>That's just the tip of the ice berg.</p>
<p>The thing is that carbon fibre bodies, double glazed car windows and alws controlling all vehicle mpg ratings are all easily doable right now, hell you don't even need to abandon the internal combustion engine at all.</p>
<p>Really, if you trimmed the car weight down by four fifths, which is waht carbon fibre would do, and installed double glazing thus n olonger needing domestic sized AC units, you could all sit in proper sized cars.</p>
<p>A one litre engince capacity is only a weak engine when it is dragging a huge an=mount of weight, remove most of the weight and it's quite a powerful unit.</p>
<p>But if you used modern super efficient engines , the ones that turn off at the lights or at idle, that'd help too.</p>
<p>All I'm saying is that a country that invented "Armoury Technique" the fore father of mass production, invented the aeroplane, the modern car and miryiad other innovations, it should be humiliating to be seen as as such a technologically remedial bunch nowadays.</p>
<p>The gas prices are only so high and hurt so badly because you you use so very much for so very little effect.</p>
<p>Come on USA, you're the heart of the industrial world, implement the innovations that are already at hand, revitalise your own economy, make detriot the motor city once more, except this time a carbon fibre motor city.</p>
<p>It is all here, all to hand and all doable.</p>
<p>Except that you now have a feudal ruling class who would rather see you all dead than dream of relinquishing their strrangle hold on power.</p>
<p>And remember, the Bush family, and all their pals consider themselves to be a superior species to you lot.</p>
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		<title>By: MoonCake</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/22/gas-prices-how-high-is-too-high/comment-page-1/#comment-566549</link>
		<dc:creator>MoonCake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like other people on here, i also set my cruise at 65mph on the highway and feel like a safety hazard because everyone else furiously passes me, like getting to their destination 5 minutes earlier is going to make life more convenient. i also started hypermiling (www.hypermiling.com) and have been able to squeeze out an additional 8mpg in doing so. if i don&#039;t have to drive anywhere else besides work and school, i can survive on $30 per week on gas. instead of paying attention to gas prices, i decide to spend X amount of dollars and drive conservatively to make it last as long as possible. i&#039;ve been doing this for quite some time and i almost don&#039;t even feel the gas-price crunch. the problem isn&#039;t that people are unwilling to pay more for gas, it&#039;s that they&#039;re unwilling to change their over-all behavior, and this is not just on the road. an idiot isn&#039;t just an idiot in the driver&#039;s seat.. they&#039;re an idiot anyway. people speed because they&#039;re impatient, and anyone who has great patience will tell you it takes a lot of self-discipline. self-discipline takes time and effort and today&#039;s society does not cater to such patience. people get pissed off if their big mac isn&#039;t ready in under 3 minutes, can we really expect them to have patience anywhere else in life? realistically, no. if natural selection still applied today (some places it does, but not really in the developed countries effected by this whole mess), these people would be the first to go because they&#039;ll attack the bear before they wait for it to cross the trap. we live in times of instant gratification and i don&#039;t see that changing anytime soon.

i have an amazing idea for a new vehicle, and i think it would work, but i&#039;m not a mechanic or engineer and don&#039;t know the exact intricacies of my project. it uses segway technology and solar power... intriguing, no? i&#039;ve emailed a couple people familiar with this technology telling them my idea (of course not disclosing all of my plans for fear of having it stolen), but no responses yet. anyone in here know about segways?

also-- my dad is really looking into engines that run off of water. you have to build the engine yourself, but the parts only cost around $3500 and i&#039;m sure there is an instruction book. he said that if he gets it to work well, he&#039;s going to do the same in our (mine and my siblings) cars as well. of course, i&#039;m trying to think of ways to illeviate the need for ANY resources capable of depletion, so i would probably collect and purify rain water instead of pumping out of a hose or whatever.

but i don&#039;t think we need to think of ways to lower gas prices because it&#039;s just not happening. we have already reached peak oil, and our supply IS running out no matter what OPEC tells us. and even if it&#039;s not running out now, it will run out in the next couple centuries. that is our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. i don&#039;t want them to live through this sh*t, why not use what awesome technologies we KNOW are useful and change the face of society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like other people on here, i also set my cruise at 65mph on the highway and feel like a safety hazard because everyone else furiously passes me, like getting to their destination 5 minutes earlier is going to make life more convenient. i also started hypermiling (www.hypermiling.com) and have been able to squeeze out an additional 8mpg in doing so. if i don't have to drive anywhere else besides work and school, i can survive on $30 per week on gas. instead of paying attention to gas prices, i decide to spend X amount of dollars and drive conservatively to make it last as long as possible. i've been doing this for quite some time and i almost don't even feel the gas-price crunch. the problem isn't that people are unwilling to pay more for gas, it's that they're unwilling to change their over-all behavior, and this is not just on the road. an idiot isn't just an idiot in the driver's seat.. they're an idiot anyway. people speed because they're impatient, and anyone who has great patience will tell you it takes a lot of self-discipline. self-discipline takes time and effort and today's society does not cater to such patience. people get pissed off if their big mac isn't ready in under 3 minutes, can we really expect them to have patience anywhere else in life? realistically, no. if natural selection still applied today (some places it does, but not really in the developed countries effected by this whole mess), these people would be the first to go because they'll attack the bear before they wait for it to cross the trap. we live in times of instant gratification and i don't see that changing anytime soon.</p>
<p>i have an amazing idea for a new vehicle, and i think it would work, but i'm not a mechanic or engineer and don't know the exact intricacies of my project. it uses segway technology and solar power... intriguing, no? i've emailed a couple people familiar with this technology telling them my idea (of course not disclosing all of my plans for fear of having it stolen), but no responses yet. anyone in here know about segways?</p>
<p>also-- my dad is really looking into engines that run off of water. you have to build the engine yourself, but the parts only cost around $3500 and i'm sure there is an instruction book. he said that if he gets it to work well, he's going to do the same in our (mine and my siblings) cars as well. of course, i'm trying to think of ways to illeviate the need for ANY resources capable of depletion, so i would probably collect and purify rain water instead of pumping out of a hose or whatever.</p>
<p>but i don't think we need to think of ways to lower gas prices because it's just not happening. we have already reached peak oil, and our supply IS running out no matter what OPEC tells us. and even if it's not running out now, it will run out in the next couple centuries. that is our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. i don't want them to live through this sh*t, why not use what awesome technologies we KNOW are useful and change the face of society?</p>
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		<title>By: Monochromeangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monochromeangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can be done about it?  I for one can&#039;t do a thing.  I have to be at work at 7 AM.  Our city buses don&#039;t start running till 8 AM.  And a bike ride would take me at least an hour and a half.  Not to mention living in Florida, where an hour and a half bike ride in 98 degree weather and 99% humidity equals me looking (not to mention smelling) like hell when i get to work.  I drive a tiny little 98 Mitsubishi mirage coupe that gets great gas milage and will continue to do so.  I HAVE to pay the gas prices, no matter how high they get, because I have no other alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can be done about it?  I for one can't do a thing.  I have to be at work at 7 AM.  Our city buses don't start running till 8 AM.  And a bike ride would take me at least an hour and a half.  Not to mention living in Florida, where an hour and a half bike ride in 98 degree weather and 99% humidity equals me looking (not to mention smelling) like hell when i get to work.  I drive a tiny little 98 Mitsubishi mirage coupe that gets great gas milage and will continue to do so.  I HAVE to pay the gas prices, no matter how high they get, because I have no other alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 08:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regular unleaded is around £1.15 a litre and Super (97 Ron and above) around £1.20 a litre.  It is set to hit £1.50 by the end of the summer according to most UK sources.

Combine this with the ever increasing annual car tax we pay to keep our cars on the road it’s becoming harder to keep a car running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular unleaded is around £1.15 a litre and Super (97 Ron and above) around £1.20 a litre.  It is set to hit £1.50 by the end of the summer according to most UK sources.</p>
<p>Combine this with the ever increasing annual car tax we pay to keep our cars on the road it’s becoming harder to keep a car running.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$3 is too much, which is why I am fixing my scooter and riding my bike to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$3 is too much, which is why I am fixing my scooter and riding my bike to work.</p>
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		<title>By: K!P</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/22/gas-prices-how-high-is-too-high/comment-page-1/#comment-566071</link>
		<dc:creator>K!P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pawel: concidering that our bus sytem is on strike in the Netherlands i woulnd call our public transportation perfect. Also: our country may be small, but a 20 mile drive to work is a 20 mile drive to work, no matter how big the place is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pawel: concidering that our bus sytem is on strike in the Netherlands i woulnd call our public transportation perfect. Also: our country may be small, but a 20 mile drive to work is a 20 mile drive to work, no matter how big the place is.</p>
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		<title>By: Lasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You americans are spoiled. :-)

I live in Denmark, and the prices here, 9-10 $/gallon, has now caused med to drive slower to save fuel. And public transport is not an alternative where i am currently living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You americans are spoiled. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I live in Denmark, and the prices here, 9-10 $/gallon, has now caused med to drive slower to save fuel. And public transport is not an alternative where i am currently living.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty foreigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirty foreigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like a discussion over petrol prices to get people going.

You might consider this high, but my country, the Netherlands, a gallon (3.78 liter!) costs $9.22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like a discussion over petrol prices to get people going.</p>
<p>You might consider this high, but my country, the Netherlands, a gallon (3.78 liter!) costs $9.22.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve considered getting a moped or a motorcycle lately.  Those get hella mileage, but the rain becomes a big problem.</description>
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