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		<title>By: Truth Be Told</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-600240</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Be Told</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And speaking of truth.  Vote for Barack Obama at your own peril.  Considering his assault on the second amendment, his comments about guns and religion, and his belief in Black Liberation theology, this man really scares me.  Vote for him at your own peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And speaking of truth.  Vote for Barack Obama at your own peril.  Considering his assault on the second amendment, his comments about guns and religion, and his belief in Black Liberation theology, this man really scares me.  Vote for him at your own peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Be Told</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-600238</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Be Told</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please people.  Get your facts straight.  Stop spreading misinformation about &quot;things you have heard&quot;.  First, there is nothing illegal about manufacturing your own moonshine for personal use.  Unless you are selling it, with the elimination of prohibition, making alcoholic beverages for personal consumption is perfectly legal in most places in the US.

Second, moonshine is not inherently more poisonous than any other type of booze you buy from the liquor store.  In the old days, moonshiners used to add other components (often methanol or other poisons) to save money (akin to cutting drugs with poisons) which led to the legend that moonshine will make you go blind.  If you do straight fermentation-distillation, you will end up with a product that is just as safe as what you buy anywhere else.

Hopefully, this clears up the &quot;old wive&#039;s tales&quot;, courtesy of those who believe dogs have cleaner mouths than humans, machines guns and silencers are illegal, and you&#039;ll catch a cold if you go outside with wet hair. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please people.  Get your facts straight.  Stop spreading misinformation about "things you have heard".  First, there is nothing illegal about manufacturing your own moonshine for personal use.  Unless you are selling it, with the elimination of prohibition, making alcoholic beverages for personal consumption is perfectly legal in most places in the US.</p>
<p>Second, moonshine is not inherently more poisonous than any other type of booze you buy from the liquor store.  In the old days, moonshiners used to add other components (often methanol or other poisons) to save money (akin to cutting drugs with poisons) which led to the legend that moonshine will make you go blind.  If you do straight fermentation-distillation, you will end up with a product that is just as safe as what you buy anywhere else.</p>
<p>Hopefully, this clears up the "old wive's tales", courtesy of those who believe dogs have cleaner mouths than humans, machines guns and silencers are illegal, and you'll catch a cold if you go outside with wet hair. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve had great luck in freezing home made wine, and then turning the bottle upside down (while still in the freezer) and letting all the non frozen stuff drip out into another bottle. The stuff is great, really sweet and strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i've had great luck in freezing home made wine, and then turning the bottle upside down (while still in the freezer) and letting all the non frozen stuff drip out into another bottle. The stuff is great, really sweet and strong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironic</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-558998</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the reports on lead poisoning are based on the product that is currently available in Virginia. Unless you know the source and know it does not contain lead, then do not drink it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the reports on lead poisoning are based on the product that is currently available in Virginia. Unless you know the source and know it does not contain lead, then do not drink it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-558824</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbwire, making beer and wine for yourself is perfectly legal (as long as you don&#039;t SELL it).
Moonshine has a much higher alcohol content (think everclear, sometimes higher).  
Though I&#039;m not so sure lead poisoning is as much of a problem anymore unless you&#039;re using an antique still.
So, the lesson here is: if your 9 year old cousin asks your 47 year old cousin for some of the water he&#039;s drinkin&#039; from a mason jar, you&#039;ll find yourself in the interesting position of explaining moonshine to a 9 year-old because the phrase &quot;Fire-water&quot; only makes them want it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbwire, making beer and wine for yourself is perfectly legal (as long as you don't SELL it).<br />
Moonshine has a much higher alcohol content (think everclear, sometimes higher).<br />
Though I'm not so sure lead poisoning is as much of a problem anymore unless you're using an antique still.<br />
So, the lesson here is: if your 9 year old cousin asks your 47 year old cousin for some of the water he's drinkin' from a mason jar, you'll find yourself in the interesting position of explaining moonshine to a 9 year-old because the phrase "Fire-water" only makes them want it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous-for-this-post</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Distillation is not that difficult. You can do it very safely using refrigeration, relying on the fact that alcohol freezes at a much lower temperature than water. Freeze distillation also retains much more of the fermentation characteristics of the original drink than fractional distillation. It&#039;s just as illegal, under federal law, mind you, so don&#039;t talking indiscriminately about it. It&#039;s difficult to produce anything stronger than 25 or 30% alcohol using freeze distillation, but it&#039;s my favorite method because it requires less aging and retains many of the flavor components that are lost in fractional distilling (I&#039;m a homebrewer--I like keeping hop and yeast character).

Fractional distillation can be done fairly easily with a pressure cooker and some copper tubing (running off the cooker and through an ice bath). You just have to be careful to discard the heads and tails. And the product that comes out is raw and needs to be aged a few months or a few years, to develop some complexity. Age it in good wood to add that complexity. You can buy seasoned casks from wineries and distilleries without too much problem.

Again, be careful who you talk to about the stuff you make. The penalties are stiff: up to 5 years and $10,000 fine per count for each offense, plus the IRS can hit you up for excise taxes unpaid on the production (see 26 U.S.C 5002 and 560l). 

Also, can people cut the political crap here? I&#039;m as much a political junkie as anyone, but I leave it behind on the political blogs. This blog is for fun stuff, regardless of your affiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distillation is not that difficult. You can do it very safely using refrigeration, relying on the fact that alcohol freezes at a much lower temperature than water. Freeze distillation also retains much more of the fermentation characteristics of the original drink than fractional distillation. It's just as illegal, under federal law, mind you, so don't talking indiscriminately about it. It's difficult to produce anything stronger than 25 or 30% alcohol using freeze distillation, but it's my favorite method because it requires less aging and retains many of the flavor components that are lost in fractional distilling (I'm a homebrewer--I like keeping hop and yeast character).</p>
<p>Fractional distillation can be done fairly easily with a pressure cooker and some copper tubing (running off the cooker and through an ice bath). You just have to be careful to discard the heads and tails. And the product that comes out is raw and needs to be aged a few months or a few years, to develop some complexity. Age it in good wood to add that complexity. You can buy seasoned casks from wineries and distilleries without too much problem.</p>
<p>Again, be careful who you talk to about the stuff you make. The penalties are stiff: up to 5 years and $10,000 fine per count for each offense, plus the IRS can hit you up for excise taxes unpaid on the production (see 26 U.S.C 5002 and 560l). </p>
<p>Also, can people cut the political crap here? I'm as much a political junkie as anyone, but I leave it behind on the political blogs. This blog is for fun stuff, regardless of your affiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop whining. Neatorama puts politics on the front page now, courtesy of Stanhope. Once a blog starts down that road, it&#039;s hard to stop.

And this isn&#039;t the first time Obama has &quot;misspoken&quot;. In fact, he messes up every single time he says something without a teleprompter. He&#039;s worse than Bush.

Only we&#039;ll never get a &quot;funny video&quot; of Obama&#039;s gaffes posted on Neatorama. This blog is turning into a one-sided political promotion, like Boing Boing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop whining. Neatorama puts politics on the front page now, courtesy of Stanhope. Once a blog starts down that road, it's hard to stop.</p>
<p>And this isn't the first time Obama has "misspoken". In fact, he messes up every single time he says something without a teleprompter. He's worse than Bush.</p>
<p>Only we'll never get a "funny video" of Obama's gaffes posted on Neatorama. This blog is turning into a one-sided political promotion, like Boing Boing.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop spreading that crap in unrelated threads.  He misspoke, plain and simple.  You want to debate politics in a political thread that&#039;s fine, but you bring out your sorry youtube video every chance you get.  Get a life and start basing politics on something better than a 10 second sound bite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop spreading that crap in unrelated threads.  He misspoke, plain and simple.  You want to debate politics in a political thread that's fine, but you bring out your sorry youtube video every chance you get.  Get a life and start basing politics on something better than a 10 second sound bite.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean &quot;all 50 states&quot;? Barack Obama has stated that there are at least 57 states, and he&#039;s the Messiah so he must be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean "all 50 states"? Barack Obama has stated that there are at least 57 states, and he's the Messiah so he must be right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ironic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ironic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be very careful with moonshine. Most of it has a high lead content because of the cheap soldering jobs used in bush-league distillery constuction. It will not make you blind like it did in the old days, but it WILL give you lead poisoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be very careful with moonshine. Most of it has a high lead content because of the cheap soldering jobs used in bush-league distillery constuction. It will not make you blind like it did in the old days, but it WILL give you lead poisoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Archbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear people in Russia sometimes die because they drink home-made alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear people in Russia sometimes die because they drink home-made alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plains..
You can make your OWN alcohol upto 200 gallons per year..In most states.  Personal USE.
Its the STILL thats illegal.

Barb,
there are some great recipes on the net, NOW..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plains..<br />
You can make your OWN alcohol upto 200 gallons per year..In most states.  Personal USE.<br />
Its the STILL thats illegal.</p>
<p>Barb,<br />
there are some great recipes on the net, NOW..</p>
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		<title>By: Barbwire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some states it&#039;s perfectly legal to make beer or wine.  When we lived in Washington State, making beer was the thing to do.  We tried all different recipes, and frankly, I wasn&#039;t too crazy about any of it.  then my husband decided to add yeast to grape juice.  He capped the bottles as he did the beer bottles.  The exploded sequentially while he was at work.  Fortunately no one was in the room, as glass and fermented grape juice flew everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some states it's perfectly legal to make beer or wine.  When we lived in Washington State, making beer was the thing to do.  We tried all different recipes, and frankly, I wasn't too crazy about any of it.  then my husband decided to add yeast to grape juice.  He capped the bottles as he did the beer bottles.  The exploded sequentially while he was at work.  Fortunately no one was in the room, as glass and fermented grape juice flew everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, my great-uncle was a moonshiner for a bit.  There&#039;s lots of old abandoned stills in Kentucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, my great-uncle was a moonshiner for a bit.  There's lots of old abandoned stills in Kentucky.</p>
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		<title>By: plainswalker75</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-555739</link>
		<dc:creator>plainswalker75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ECA:

Under U.S. law, it is completely illegal to distill spirits of any kind.  You can however, freely create any kind of distillery you want, as long as it is used for some other task, e.g. water purification</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECA:</p>
<p>Under U.S. law, it is completely illegal to distill spirits of any kind.  You can however, freely create any kind of distillery you want, as long as it is used for some other task, e.g. water purification</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-555659</link>
		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 21:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50000 monthy visitors of Home distillers forum?  Make it 50001...
It&#039;s such a good bad idea :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50000 monthy visitors of Home distillers forum?  Make it 50001...<br />
It's such a good bad idea <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Badjuk</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-555588</link>
		<dc:creator>Badjuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Poland this whiskey is named:
- ksiezycowka,
- samogon,
- bimber,
- samogonka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Poland this whiskey is named:<br />
- ksiezycowka,<br />
- samogon,<br />
- bimber,<br />
- samogonka.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/17/modern-moonshine/comment-page-1/#comment-555517</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm,
Abit off there...
It is illegal to SELL moonshine.
In many states you can MAKE your own, for personal USE..
But, Building a Still. is dangerous and they WONT LET YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm,<br />
Abit off there...<br />
It is illegal to SELL moonshine.<br />
In many states you can MAKE your own, for personal USE..<br />
But, Building a Still. is dangerous and they WONT LET YOU.</p>
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