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	<title>Comments on: New York Policemen Didn&#8217;t Recognize Their Own Off-Duty Chief!</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: J of The Sandhills</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/11/new-york-policemen-didnt-recognize-their-own-off-duty-chief/#comment-549632</link>
		<dc:creator>J of The Sandhills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with the size of NYPD, i understand why they didnt immediately recognize him. why didnt the cops see the city issued plates on the SUV? i know one thing, undercover cops will be either jockey a desk or working secuity at a Home Depot parking lot soon :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with the size of NYPD, i understand why they didnt immediately recognize him. why didnt the cops see the city issued plates on the SUV? i know one thing, undercover cops will be either jockey a desk or working secuity at a Home Depot parking lot soon :p</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He'd be dead in Cincinnati.

I'm just sayin'.  It's how our cops roll. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;d be dead in Cincinnati.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.  It&#8217;s how our cops roll. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: CheeseDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/11/new-york-policemen-didnt-recognize-their-own-off-duty-chief/#comment-549369</link>
		<dc:creator>CheeseDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh. I don't get it. Why didn't they shoot him. He's black! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh. I don&#8217;t get it. Why didn&#8217;t they shoot him. He&#8217;s black! <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: gl3nk</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/11/new-york-policemen-didnt-recognize-their-own-off-duty-chief/#comment-548860</link>
		<dc:creator>gl3nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does this have to do with him being black????? Just another reason to play the race card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this have to do with him being black????? Just another reason to play the race card.</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has no one else noticed that the NYPD police chief is 60?

That guy is 60 years old?

My god he looks half that.

I know black guys age very well, but frankly this looks more like the picture of Dorian Gray than evolutionary good fortune and clean living.

I'm over 20 years his junior and look like his Dad..except white.

AS for racism, yeah sure there was probably a bit, but as soon as some one shouts GUN cops tewnd to spring into action regardless.

If they hadn't responded to a gun warning they'd be in a lot of trouble.

Better to draw down on a friendly than be thought a NON racist, but in the past tense.

Also there is the unpleasent truth that a disproprtionate amount of crime is perpetrated by black men.

It's no doubt a symptom of a more fundamental inequality and deeper seated racism but if you were a copper on the street I think that you'd no longer care about such niceties regardless of whether you were black or white.

Hell no one is perfect, and we tend to get less so when some we feel our lives are threatened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has no one else noticed that the NYPD police chief is 60?</p>
<p>That guy is 60 years old?</p>
<p>My god he looks half that.</p>
<p>I know black guys age very well, but frankly this looks more like the picture of Dorian Gray than evolutionary good fortune and clean living.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m over 20 years his junior and look like his Dad..except white.</p>
<p>AS for racism, yeah sure there was probably a bit, but as soon as some one shouts GUN cops tewnd to spring into action regardless.</p>
<p>If they hadn&#8217;t responded to a gun warning they&#8217;d be in a lot of trouble.</p>
<p>Better to draw down on a friendly than be thought a NON racist, but in the past tense.</p>
<p>Also there is the unpleasent truth that a disproprtionate amount of crime is perpetrated by black men.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no doubt a symptom of a more fundamental inequality and deeper seated racism but if you were a copper on the street I think that you&#8217;d no longer care about such niceties regardless of whether you were black or white.</p>
<p>Hell no one is perfect, and we tend to get less so when some we feel our lives are threatened.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was parked near a fire hydrant? They should have known right away he was a cop. One thing's for sure: those two officers won't be getting any more promotions in their careers. Police departments are all about politics.

This all reminds me of the story told me by an Ontario Provincial Police officer about a new style of car being presented to the media by the Commissioner. An officer drove it all the way to the photo-op, but was not allowed to deliver it to the Commissioner and have his 15 minutes of fame because he was white. At the end of his drive, he handed the keys over to a black officer, who then drove it the last 100 feet to the photo-op. Racism cuts both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was parked near a fire hydrant? They should have known right away he was a cop. One thing&#8217;s for sure: those two officers won&#8217;t be getting any more promotions in their careers. Police departments are all about politics.</p>
<p>This all reminds me of the story told me by an Ontario Provincial Police officer about a new style of car being presented to the media by the Commissioner. An officer drove it all the way to the photo-op, but was not allowed to deliver it to the Commissioner and have his 15 minutes of fame because he was white. At the end of his drive, he handed the keys over to a black officer, who then drove it the last 100 feet to the photo-op. Racism cuts both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aar000n that part is up to debate. The Chief of police, insists that he identified himself and that there was no reason for them to search him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aar000n that part is up to debate. The Chief of police, insists that he identified himself and that there was no reason for them to search him.</p>
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		<title>By: Aar000n</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aar000n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the other commenters here seem to be immediately jumping to the conclusion that the two cops were racist. 

The part of the article on Neatorama here isn't complete.
There was more than one take about what happened, and only the black man's point of view was listed on neatorama. Here's what the two white cops had to say.

"When one officer spotted Zeigler's service weapon through the rolled-down window, he yelled "Gun!" according to sources who have spoken with the officers.

Both cops raised their weapons and ordered the driver out of the car, sources said.

Instead of saying he was an armed member of the NYPD, Zeigler shouted, "Don't you know who I am?" the sources said.

When one cop reached over to check the identification badge around Zeigler's neck, the chief pushed him away, sources said.

Only then did Zeigler tell the two officers his name and rank, those sources said." 

Obviously, one of the stories has to be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the other commenters here seem to be immediately jumping to the conclusion that the two cops were racist. </p>
<p>The part of the article on Neatorama here isn&#8217;t complete.<br />
There was more than one take about what happened, and only the black man&#8217;s point of view was listed on neatorama. Here&#8217;s what the two white cops had to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;When one officer spotted Zeigler&#8217;s service weapon through the rolled-down window, he yelled &#8220;Gun!&#8221; according to sources who have spoken with the officers.</p>
<p>Both cops raised their weapons and ordered the driver out of the car, sources said.</p>
<p>Instead of saying he was an armed member of the NYPD, Zeigler shouted, &#8220;Don&#8217;t you know who I am?&#8221; the sources said.</p>
<p>When one cop reached over to check the identification badge around Zeigler&#8217;s neck, the chief pushed him away, sources said.</p>
<p>Only then did Zeigler tell the two officers his name and rank, those sources said.&#8221; </p>
<p>Obviously, one of the stories has to be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Louisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many places in this country that I cannot go because I look "white". I would get beat up, raped or killed. It cuts so many ways. None is right but no one is immune, Alex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many places in this country that I cannot go because I look &#8220;white&#8221;. I would get beat up, raped or killed. It cuts so many ways. None is right but no one is immune, Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: SiteSeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>SiteSeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overt racism, dead &#38; gone --killed by the civil rights movement and buried by political correctness. Casual racism, alive and regaining lost ground; evolving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overt racism, dead &amp; gone &#8211;killed by the civil rights movement and buried by political correctness. Casual racism, alive and regaining lost ground; evolving.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having visited NY all I can say is I'm glad I've decided not to visit that city after the way I was treated by cops.  Being brown and a tourist just doesn't mix anymore. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having visited NY all I can say is I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;ve decided not to visit that city after the way I was treated by cops.  Being brown and a tourist just doesn&#8217;t mix anymore. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Heil Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heil Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its actually kind of satisfying to see one of their own fall victim to amerika's police state that they help create. Pigs. Now he gets a taste of how the rest of us feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its actually kind of satisfying to see one of their own fall victim to amerika&#8217;s police state that they help create. Pigs. Now he gets a taste of how the rest of us feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Lore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does not surprise me.  After police officers were acquitted for killing an unarmed black man with 50 shots in NY nothing surprises me anymore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does not surprise me.  After police officers were acquitted for killing an unarmed black man with 50 shots in NY nothing surprises me anymore</p>
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