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	<title>Comments on: Facial Symmetry = Beauty = Good Genes?</title>
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		<title>By: kcalb.kram</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/10/facial-symmetry-beauty-good-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-1928870</link>
		<dc:creator>kcalb.kram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only benefit facial or physical symmetry could get you into is nice spot on prime time in media and advertisement. Or perhaps cover of a fashion magazine Beauty and good genes don&#039;t seem to have any co relation if you look at it in real life. I don&#039;t consider the top billionaire men, or for that matter successful women to be pretty by any standards.Are all sports men beautiful? What about people with good IQs? Nor is physical beauty a guarantee of fertile and prosperous life. Infact, most of the pretty beauties out there suffer from genetic disorders leading from cancers to rare disorders. The longest living people on the planet come from a population group that might not be your typical eye candy as a whole. The only thing which beauty could be attributed to is randomness. Some features coming together in a good enough symmetry that is pleasing to the eye, and hence beauty. Our brain is just wired to process symmetry as beauty. We see faces in clouds. It responds to a pretty face , and an artistic painting, or scenery in the same way. Even that depends on whose brain you are talking about. Some brain might find attractiveness and affinity in something that is totally un-acceptable to another brain. As the old saying goes, never judge a book by its cover</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only benefit facial or physical symmetry could get you into is nice spot on prime time in media and advertisement. Or perhaps cover of a fashion magazine Beauty and good genes don&#8217;t seem to have any co relation if you look at it in real life. I don&#8217;t consider the top billionaire men, or for that matter successful women to be pretty by any standards.Are all sports men beautiful? What about people with good IQs? Nor is physical beauty a guarantee of fertile and prosperous life. Infact, most of the pretty beauties out there suffer from genetic disorders leading from cancers to rare disorders. The longest living people on the planet come from a population group that might not be your typical eye candy as a whole. The only thing which beauty could be attributed to is randomness. Some features coming together in a good enough symmetry that is pleasing to the eye, and hence beauty. Our brain is just wired to process symmetry as beauty. We see faces in clouds. It responds to a pretty face , and an artistic painting, or scenery in the same way. Even that depends on whose brain you are talking about. Some brain might find attractiveness and affinity in something that is totally un-acceptable to another brain. As the old saying goes, never judge a book by its cover</p>
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		<title>By: verry pretty gay guy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/10/facial-symmetry-beauty-good-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-1834308</link>
		<dc:creator>verry pretty gay guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my face is asymetrical more then the avrage and so is my mother face, but i have being modeling and most of the blinde dates i had with guys wanted me and i have being told lots of times(rendomely) that im verry prerrt and i should be a model, i have a friend who told me im the best friend he had that is verry pretty , my mother been told that she is verry hot pretty and more so sorry this is bulshit i have seen guys with high symetrical face that are ugly,its not about symetrical its about the way your face build eyes lips and more.

if symetrical face is more atrractive then why 90% of the blinde dates i hade wanted me and why i have been told that i have amazing eyes nose lips face and so and that i am verry pretty\handsome\beautifull and that i should be a model?

im waiting for your answer.

bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my face is asymetrical more then the avrage and so is my mother face, but i have being modeling and most of the blinde dates i had with guys wanted me and i have being told lots of times(rendomely) that im verry prerrt and i should be a model, i have a friend who told me im the best friend he had that is verry pretty , my mother been told that she is verry hot pretty and more so sorry this is bulshit i have seen guys with high symetrical face that are ugly,its not about symetrical its about the way your face build eyes lips and more.</p>
<p>if symetrical face is more atrractive then why 90% of the blinde dates i hade wanted me and why i have been told that i have amazing eyes nose lips face and so and that i am verry pretty\handsome\beautifull and that i should be a model?</p>
<p>im waiting for your answer.</p>
<p>bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason E.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/10/facial-symmetry-beauty-good-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-549200</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The symmetry is due to the tendency of growing things to aspire to grow such that it&#039;s proportions correlate to a ratio of 1:1.618.  If this number looks familiar, it&#039;s called the &quot;golden ratio&quot;  Makes sense that growing in a way that yields the highest correlation to the way that things &quot;want&quot; to grow would be perceived, as the most healthy... and therefore the most desirable.

Use your favorite search engine to do some research on the golden ratio and the beauty ratio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The symmetry is due to the tendency of growing things to aspire to grow such that it&#8217;s proportions correlate to a ratio of 1:1.618.  If this number looks familiar, it&#8217;s called the &#8220;golden ratio&#8221;  Makes sense that growing in a way that yields the highest correlation to the way that things &#8220;want&#8221; to grow would be perceived, as the most healthy&#8230; and therefore the most desirable.</p>
<p>Use your favorite search engine to do some research on the golden ratio and the beauty ratio.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Search:

&quot;The Golden Ratio&quot;
&quot;Phi&quot;
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1: 1.618</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Search:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Golden Ratio&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Phi&#8221;<br />
and<br />
1: 1.618</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/05/10/facial-symmetry-beauty-good-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-546593</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 06:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex - scientists have also known for decades that beauty = good genes and fertility.

L - a large part of what we consider &quot;beauty&quot; is youth. Even is a face is not all that attractive, if it&#039;s young, the person will be more fertile.
Other symbols of fertility/health in areas other than the face (in women) include a low waist/hip ratio, healthy weight, full breasts, and shiny hair.

Carl - Attractiveness in males is not as important, as status and fidelity is considered just as (or even more) desirable than genes by women. Maybe that&#039;s why asymmetrical male faces could be considered more attractive than asymmetrical female faces.

This is the evolutionary psychology perspective. Keep in mind that it focuses on the species as a whole rather than specific individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; scientists have also known for decades that beauty = good genes and fertility.</p>
<p>L &#8211; a large part of what we consider &#8220;beauty&#8221; is youth. Even is a face is not all that attractive, if it&#8217;s young, the person will be more fertile.<br />
Other symbols of fertility/health in areas other than the face (in women) include a low waist/hip ratio, healthy weight, full breasts, and shiny hair.</p>
<p>Carl &#8211; Attractiveness in males is not as important, as status and fidelity is considered just as (or even more) desirable than genes by women. Maybe that&#8217;s why asymmetrical male faces could be considered more attractive than asymmetrical female faces.</p>
<p>This is the evolutionary psychology perspective. Keep in mind that it focuses on the species as a whole rather than specific individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes doo doo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diogenes doo doo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOW I know what all the broken mirrors meant and to think Ive been vain for all these years.  Well, now that I am past my prime and just know learning that my asymetric face is equal to mother nature taking a crap,  the rest of life for me should be bliss.
thanks a lot &quot; Anthony Little of the University of Stirling, Scotland, and colleagues&quot;,  if that&#039;s your real name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW I know what all the broken mirrors meant and to think Ive been vain for all these years.  Well, now that I am past my prime and just know learning that my asymetric face is equal to mother nature taking a crap,  the rest of life for me should be bliss.<br />
thanks a lot &#8221; Anthony Little of the University of Stirling, Scotland, and colleagues&#8221;,  if that&#8217;s your real name.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ L

I was just about to mention that! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ L</p>
<p>I was just about to mention that! <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if beauty = fertility.  What about ugly women who go and have 15 kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if beauty = fertility.  What about ugly women who go and have 15 kids?</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, not everyone equates masculinity or femininity with attractiveness. Those words would have me picking out people who fit societal stereotypes for those words, not people I consider attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, not everyone equates masculinity or femininity with attractiveness. Those words would have me picking out people who fit societal stereotypes for those words, not people I consider attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle Lovett was the guy I was trying to remember in the first post. All I could think of for a while was Guy Ritchie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle Lovett was the guy I was trying to remember in the first post. All I could think of for a while was Guy Ritchie.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jf, the first part of the equation yes (symmetry = beauty). But not the second part (beauty = good genes or fertility), that&#039;s new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jf, the first part of the equation yes (symmetry = beauty). But not the second part (beauty = good genes or fertility), that&#8217;s new.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No one disputes that symmetrical faces, such as that of Kate Moss, are more attractive.&quot;

That&#039;s kind of a big leap to say that nobody disputes that. How I love pseudo-science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No one disputes that symmetrical faces, such as that of Kate Moss, are more attractive.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s kind of a big leap to say that nobody disputes that. How I love pseudo-science.</p>
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		<title>By: Worlds Most Beautiful Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worlds Most Beautiful Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.intmath.com/Numbers/mathOfBeauty.php

Heres another take on solving this eternal  mystery.

Also analyze the women on my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.intmath.com/Numbers/mathOfBeauty.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.intmath.com/Numbers/mathOfBeauty.php</a></p>
<p>Heres another take on solving this eternal  mystery.</p>
<p>Also analyze the women on my site.</p>
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		<title>By: Vako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugenics a-Go-Go !!!

:-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugenics a-Go-Go !!!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naw, there was a study a few years ago, I&#039;m sure, about how ASYMMETRICAL faces were handsome. On men anyway - maybe it doesn&#039;t work for women. The article featured, oh what&#039;s his name. Man, it was some musician who looked kind of like Kramer with blonder hair. Anyway, super asymmetrical face.

What it came down to was those people had character, were distinguished, unique.

I think it&#039;s just being one extreme or another. Either being perfectly symmetrical, or really uniquely asymmetrical. I mean look at Clint Eastwood&#039;s sneer! Very asymmetrical, but girls love the guy.

And the genes thing is already on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry
&quot;Animal studies show that diseased mothers give birth to offspring that show greater asymmetries.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naw, there was a study a few years ago, I&#8217;m sure, about how ASYMMETRICAL faces were handsome. On men anyway &#8211; maybe it doesn&#8217;t work for women. The article featured, oh what&#8217;s his name. Man, it was some musician who looked kind of like Kramer with blonder hair. Anyway, super asymmetrical face.</p>
<p>What it came down to was those people had character, were distinguished, unique.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s just being one extreme or another. Either being perfectly symmetrical, or really uniquely asymmetrical. I mean look at Clint Eastwood&#8217;s sneer! Very asymmetrical, but girls love the guy.</p>
<p>And the genes thing is already on Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry</a><br />
&#8220;Animal studies show that diseased mothers give birth to offspring that show greater asymmetries.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this isn&#039;t a new finding at all!  scientists have known this for decades, im pretty sure...it&#039;s interesting, for sure, but nowhere near groundbreaking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isn&#8217;t a new finding at all!  scientists have known this for decades, im pretty sure&#8230;it&#8217;s interesting, for sure, but nowhere near groundbreaking</p>
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