Comments on: The Amen Break and the Golden Ratio http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/ The Neat Side of the Web Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:13:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: christian gehrke http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-530394 christian gehrke Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:27:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-530394 oops someone already posted that link. oh well. oops someone already posted that link. oh well.

]]> By: christian gehrke http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-530391 christian gehrke Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:26:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-530391 This is very very interesting. I am amazed at anything related to the golden ratio. Now this is also a great overview of the "amen break" itself. I found this very well made. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac This is very very interesting. I am amazed at anything related to the golden ratio. Now this is also a great overview of the “amen break” itself. I found this very well made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

]]> By: goosemydog http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-526105 goosemydog Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:17:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-526105 I hate to be the bearer of negative news but this beat was alive and well a few years before the Winstons used it in '69. When I played in a garage band in during most of the 60's, our first drummer was using it in '65 or '66. He used to call it the Seattle beat. The northwest bands were using it in the early 60's--like the Wailers and Kingsmen and a local favorite, the Beachcombers. I hate to be the bearer of negative news but this beat was alive and well a few years before the Winstons used it in ‘69. When I played in a garage band in during most of the 60’s, our first drummer was using it in ‘65 or ‘66. He used to call it the Seattle beat. The northwest bands were using it in the early 60’s–like the Wailers and Kingsmen and a local favorite, the Beachcombers.

]]> By: Reechard http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-524150 Reechard Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:57:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-524150 The article is horrible but the Amen Break is very interesting in itself. I'm going to also recommend the video that Moodindigo posted above. The article is horrible but the Amen Break is very interesting in itself. I’m going to also recommend the video that Moodindigo posted above.

]]> By: Moodindigo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-524074 Moodindigo Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:52:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-524074 A great video about the Amen break: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac A great video about the Amen break:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

]]> By: Alannah http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523857 Alannah Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:34:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523857 As I read the article, I could actually feel the clue fly slightly above my head. I also felt it crap there. That's just not nice. As I read the article, I could actually feel the clue fly slightly above my head. I also felt it crap there. That’s just not nice.

]]> By: avraamov http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523773 avraamov Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:21:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523773 you should tell him to go and have lunch with the anthropologists for a change... you should tell him to go and have lunch with the anthropologists for a change…

]]> By: Stephanie http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523769 Stephanie Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:11:54 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523769 Hey! Thats my math teacher! Hey! Thats my math teacher!

]]> By: avraamov http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523529 avraamov Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:09:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523529 thank you review stew. this is guff. its a wing of the pythagorean 'harmony of the spheres' school of musicology and its numerous descendants (which 99% of the world's music has nothing to do with - can somebody supply some golden section/non golden section statistics for the worlds music please?) thank you review stew. this is guff.

its a wing of the pythagorean ‘harmony of the spheres’ school of musicology and its numerous descendants (which 99% of the world’s music has nothing to do with - can somebody supply some golden section/non golden section statistics for the worlds music please?)

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523463 Christophe Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:00:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523463 Today I had to take care of an intern. She has short legs. She does not fit the graphs in the website. What does it mean? That she's not good at funk music? it's all BS. Today I had to take care of an intern. She has short legs. She does not fit the graphs in the website.
What does it mean? That she’s not good at funk music?

it’s all BS.

]]> By: Review Stew http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523382 Review Stew Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:51:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523382 Not to be a hater, but that's some very poor analysis he does on the web page. For one thing, the points he chooses are approximate, not exactly lining up with the onset of the loudness peaks. I think he's really seeing a ratio of 1.625:1. In musical terms, that would be an accent on the downbeat of a 4/4 measure, and another accent on the fifth 8th-note of the measure. Pretty standard stuff in funk music and many other genres. Not to be a hater, but that’s some very poor analysis he does on the web page. For one thing, the points he chooses are approximate, not exactly lining up with the onset of the loudness peaks. I think he’s really seeing a ratio of 1.625:1. In musical terms, that would be an accent on the downbeat of a 4/4 measure, and another accent on the fifth 8th-note of the measure. Pretty standard stuff in funk music and many other genres.

]]> By: KT http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523377 KT Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:45:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523377 I published an analysis of a piece of electronic music (The sea darkens... by Joji Yuasa) in which major sections and even individual sonic events are seemingly organized around the Golden Mean. Yuasa says that he wasn't trying to use the GM (or Golden Section) as an organizational tool but there were some remarkable moments. Poeme electronique by Edgard Varese is reported to have been organized similarly (it was performed inside the Philips Pavilion, designed by Le Corbusier, who is well known to have made use of the GM/GS in his architecture). It works well for musicians as it is not in the "normal" 1/2 or 1/3 proportion that most metrical music is written in. I published an analysis of a piece of electronic music (The sea darkens… by Joji Yuasa) in which major sections and even individual sonic events are seemingly organized around the Golden Mean. Yuasa says that he wasn’t trying to use the GM (or Golden Section) as an organizational tool but there were some remarkable moments.

Poeme electronique by Edgard Varese is reported to have been organized similarly (it was performed inside the Philips Pavilion, designed by Le Corbusier, who is well known to have made use of the GM/GS in his architecture).

It works well for musicians as it is not in the “normal” 1/2 or 1/3 proportion that most metrical music is written in.

]]> By: Edward http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523374 Edward Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:39:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523374 I have long considered The Golden Ratio to be Numerology for Mathemeticians. If you look hard enough, you can find it almost anywhere. I have long considered The Golden Ratio to be Numerology for Mathemeticians. If you look hard enough, you can find it almost anywhere.

]]> By: Nate http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523359 Nate Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:57:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523359 If anyone wants a history lesson on the Amen break, check this out... http://www.nkhstudio.com/pages/amen_mp4.html If anyone wants a history lesson on the Amen break, check this out…

http://www.nkhstudio.com/pages/amen_mp4.html

]]> By: bean http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/24/the-amen-break-and-the-golden-ratio/#comment-523347 bean Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:25:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/?p=15868#comment-523347 Yup, he's seeing things. Yup, he’s seeing things.

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