Comments on: The Martian Express http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:15:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-509698 Thomas Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:15:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-509698 Just don't use that slingshot maneuver to go around the sun. You'll go back in time to 1970's San Francisco, where you'll have to get a hold of a couple of whales. Just don't use that slingshot maneuver to go around the sun. You'll go back in time to 1970's San Francisco, where you'll have to get a hold of a couple of whales.

]]> By: CheeseDuck http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-509134 CheeseDuck Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:46:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-509134 Its not brain surgery. Its not brain surgery.

]]> By: Miss Cellania http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508990 Miss Cellania Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:07:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508990 I recommend checking out comment #45 at the DI article. Adults only. I recommend checking out comment #45 at the DI article. Adults only.

]]> By: Xinavera http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508976 Xinavera Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:51:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508976 And TT, you're an idiot if you believe that whole moon hoax conspiracy crap. The Soviets had the technology to tell whether or not we'd actually been there and were undoubtedly tracking the Apollo missions the entire time. You'd better believe they would have called us on it if it were faked. And TT, you're an idiot if you believe that whole moon hoax conspiracy crap. The Soviets had the technology to tell whether or not we'd actually been there and were undoubtedly tracking the Apollo missions the entire time. You'd better believe they would have called us on it if it were faked.

]]> By: Xinavera http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508972 Xinavera Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:49:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508972 This is, as advertised, damned interesting, and not just a set of standard Hohmann Transfer orbits either. I can't believe that in all my years as a professional space person I haven't encountered this before. Unfortunately, like Space Elevators, Pinwheels, and other elegant solutions, the initial outlay is way too big and thus it won't happen in our lifetimes. Once we find a compelling financial reason to go to Mars, maybe, but even then... This is, as advertised, damned interesting, and not just a set of standard Hohmann Transfer orbits either. I can't believe that in all my years as a professional space person I haven't encountered this before.

Unfortunately, like Space Elevators, Pinwheels, and other elegant solutions, the initial outlay is way too big and thus it won't happen in our lifetimes. Once we find a compelling financial reason to go to Mars, maybe, but even then...

]]> By: tabest http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508912 tabest Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:00:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508912 It worked in Star Trek all the time :P It worked in Star Trek all the time :P

]]> By: Tim Giachetti http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508690 Tim Giachetti Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:42:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508690 TT The method works and has for the past 30 years. Please read something other than Star Trek graphic novels before opening the yap. And what does him not being to the moon have to do with anything? It's a mathematical equation and has nothing to do with whether he's been to the moon. As far as slowing, that's what several orbits of mars will be for. According to you we have never been to the moon. Get to an observatory that will let you see the items left behind, I have. Again, close the yap and learn something other than conspiracy theories. TT The method works and has for the past 30 years. Please read something other than Star Trek graphic novels before opening the yap. And what does him not being to the moon have to do with anything? It's a mathematical equation and has nothing to do with whether he's been to the moon. As far as slowing, that's what several orbits of mars will be for.
According to you we have never been to the moon. Get to an observatory that will let you see the items left behind, I have.
Again, close the yap and learn something other than conspiracy theories.

]]> By: TT http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508449 TT Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:29:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508449 That's why I keep telling you, the dude's never been to the moon - cos he's never experienced what it's like to feel that power of space without friction. Damned stage in New Mexico must have had some wicked air-conditioners. That's why I keep telling you, the dude's never been to the moon - cos he's never experienced what it's like to feel that power of space without friction. Damned stage in New Mexico must have had some wicked air-conditioners.

]]> By: TT http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508448 TT Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:27:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508448 NUH-UH...................................................................................! Will not work. So you get to double the speed by sling shooting - since there is no friction in space, it will also take double the energy to SLOW down and STOP safely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Same difference. You're going to be slowing down so far in advance to make it slow down - it's not like opening up the flaps against the wind to slow it down, ya know. Plus, I wouldn't think that the human body could be strong enough to use that much energy to make such a G-force on a forced-brake slow-down, with that energy expenditure being tremendous to blow the reverse thrusters. NUH-UH................................................................ ...................!

Will not work.

So you get to double the speed by sling shooting -

since there is no friction in space, it will also take double the energy to SLOW down and STOP safely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !

Same difference. You're going to be slowing down so far in advance to make it slow down - it's not like opening up the flaps against the wind to slow it down, ya know.

Plus, I wouldn't think that the human body could be strong enough to use that much energy to make such a G-force on a forced-brake slow-down, with that energy expenditure being tremendous to blow the reverse thrusters.

]]> By: Alannah http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508433 Alannah Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:16:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508433 You know, I really admire people you can think like this. The whole idea seems almost magical to me. I guess the old adage that the more science progress the more it seems like magic is true. You know, I really admire people you can think like this. The whole idea seems almost magical to me. I guess the old adage that the more science progress the more it
seems like magic is true.

]]> By: XuYu http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508424 XuYu Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:03:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508424 Let's all work together to make President Bush's vinision a reality! Let's all work together to make President Bush's vinision a reality!

]]> By: Charles http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508392 Charles Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:12:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508392 Mars Direct and it's champion Robert Zubrin have already encountered Nasa's absolute lack of vision on manned Mars missions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Direct Mars Direct and it's champion Robert Zubrin have already encountered Nasa's absolute lack of vision on manned Mars missions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Direct

]]> By: su.wei http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508337 su.wei Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:55:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508337 only 26 months! that doesnt seem to bad :) only 26 months! that doesnt seem to bad :)

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/comment-page-1/#comment-508320 Christophe Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:36:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/10/the-martian-express/#comment-508320 26 months trip? I hope they brought some books... 26 months trip? I hope they brought some books...

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