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	<title>Comments on: Sarkozy: Fifth Graders Should Learn About the Life of 1 of the 10,000 French Children Killed in the Holocaust</title>
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		<title>By: Samurai6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samurai6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When for the first time my 10 yr old and I bought the book for him to read I had some serious thoughts about him (my child and his psyche) being exposed to humanity&#039;s atrocities.  

-&gt;Will mankind actually ever cease to war by him and others reading this book?

-&gt;After 1945 have wars actually stopped along with it&#039;s violence? (I served in one my self for the U.S)

-&gt;Living in America why not touch the subjects of Native American Indians (Trail of Tears) , Slavery and Racism in America and The Dicovery Of America or Was it the Invading of America by Europeans sponsored in part by the Catholic Church.

Conclusion: I feel that mankind will not change or evolve spiritually no matter how  many religions come and go look at the facts. So why expose an innocent 10 yr old almost virgin mind to horror of that extent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When for the first time my 10 yr old and I bought the book for him to read I had some serious thoughts about him (my child and his psyche) being exposed to humanity's atrocities.  </p>
<p>-&gt;Will mankind actually ever cease to war by him and others reading this book?</p>
<p>-&gt;After 1945 have wars actually stopped along with it's violence? (I served in one my self for the U.S)</p>
<p>-&gt;Living in America why not touch the subjects of Native American Indians (Trail of Tears) , Slavery and Racism in America and The Dicovery Of America or Was it the Invading of America by Europeans sponsored in part by the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>Conclusion: I feel that mankind will not change or evolve spiritually no matter how  many religions come and go look at the facts. So why expose an innocent 10 yr old almost virgin mind to horror of that extent?</p>
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		<title>By: fsmarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>fsmarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man&#039;s inhumanity to man. 

There is NOTHING worse.

And, we call ourselves civilized?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man's inhumanity to man. </p>
<p>There is NOTHING worse.</p>
<p>And, we call ourselves civilized?</p>
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		<title>By: Aramax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aramax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i&#039;m curious about is why Nicholas Sarkozy, a Roman Catholic ( Non-jew ) propose that every fifth grader learn about the life story of one of the 11,000 French children killed by the Nazi in the Holocaust.

Is it because it was the greatest tragedy to happen to france? I doubt it.

Looks to me like Nicholas Sarkozy is trying to win the votes of the jew community. Smells like ellections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i'm curious about is why Nicholas Sarkozy, a Roman Catholic ( Non-jew ) propose that every fifth grader learn about the life story of one of the 11,000 French children killed by the Nazi in the Holocaust.</p>
<p>Is it because it was the greatest tragedy to happen to france? I doubt it.</p>
<p>Looks to me like Nicholas Sarkozy is trying to win the votes of the jew community. Smells like ellections.</p>
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		<title>By: DCer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this makes me feel really old!

When I was in elementary school three of our teachers had survived the holocaust as children.  Now that I think about it, they&#039;re probably 70-80 years old and kids today, and even many Neatorama readers who are adults had no or maybe just one holocaust survivor for a teacher.  Let me tell you though, nothing woke you up like Mr. Schmetterling rolling up his sleeves to work on a project and seeing this faded old tattoo on his arm.  Then that pause while some idiot girl who never gave history a moment&#039;s thought asked why he had a tattoo of numbers on his arm.  Then we heard about the last time he saw his mother, father and his three sisters and how he was strong, so strong that the Nazis needed him to dig sewer ditches and then it was off with his shoes to see his two remaining toes on his right foot.  Kids can&#039;t deal with that?  Try growing up in an integrated neighborhood in the 1970s, holocaust survivors were everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this makes me feel really old!</p>
<p>When I was in elementary school three of our teachers had survived the holocaust as children.  Now that I think about it, they're probably 70-80 years old and kids today, and even many Neatorama readers who are adults had no or maybe just one holocaust survivor for a teacher.  Let me tell you though, nothing woke you up like Mr. Schmetterling rolling up his sleeves to work on a project and seeing this faded old tattoo on his arm.  Then that pause while some idiot girl who never gave history a moment's thought asked why he had a tattoo of numbers on his arm.  Then we heard about the last time he saw his mother, father and his three sisters and how he was strong, so strong that the Nazis needed him to dig sewer ditches and then it was off with his shoes to see his two remaining toes on his right foot.  Kids can't deal with that?  Try growing up in an integrated neighborhood in the 1970s, holocaust survivors were everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was twelve, my mother thought it was very important for me to see Schindler&#039;s List because it brought to life the truth of human evil. It was a hard movie to see because it hid very little, but it also allowed my mother and me to have a long conversation as to why it is terribly important to remember the atrocities of the past in order to recognize and stop atrocities of the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was twelve, my mother thought it was very important for me to see Schindler's List because it brought to life the truth of human evil. It was a hard movie to see because it hid very little, but it also allowed my mother and me to have a long conversation as to why it is terribly important to remember the atrocities of the past in order to recognize and stop atrocities of the present.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Gwinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Gwinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They absolutely DO do it at the Holocaust Museum in L.A., and the cards with small biographies are available online as well--I used them with 8th grade students a couple of years ago.

I&#039;m not sure what Veil&#039;s problem is, unless he just thinks 10 is too young but 12 is OK.  Might have a point, but I think the average 10-year-old could handle this pretty well.  You simply concentrate on learning the child&#039;s life.  Their death is only mentioned, never studied in depth.  No big deal, and it would actually mean something to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They absolutely DO do it at the Holocaust Museum in L.A., and the cards with small biographies are available online as well--I used them with 8th grade students a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>I'm not sure what Veil's problem is, unless he just thinks 10 is too young but 12 is OK.  Might have a point, but I think the average 10-year-old could handle this pretty well.  You simply concentrate on learning the child's life.  Their death is only mentioned, never studied in depth.  No big deal, and it would actually mean something to them.</p>
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		<title>By: pfelelep</title>
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		<dc:creator>pfelelep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diary of Anne Frank would be a really better idea to my opinion indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diary of Anne Frank would be a really better idea to my opinion indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! What a great idea! I think every kid should learn about the holocaust. I was about 10 when I got to visit the ghetto Theresienstadt and the subject has fascinated me since then. I spent my childhood in Europe and was exposed to many of the locations where some of these horrible things happened and it only made my wanting to learn more greater. I&#039;m looking forward to visiting my parents in Germany and getting to visit Auschwitz and Dachau. Nobody should be sheltered from what happened. It changed EVERYONE&#039;S lives. And don&#039;t worry about it traumatizing kids, look at what they&#039;re exposed to on a daily basis on TV and the internet. I mean Paris Hilton and all those kinds of people frighten me more. I&#039;m due to have a girl in July and by the time she&#039;s in kindergarten all the girls will be dressing like sluts. Worry about that more than teaching our kids about what REALITY can be like!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! What a great idea! I think every kid should learn about the holocaust. I was about 10 when I got to visit the ghetto Theresienstadt and the subject has fascinated me since then. I spent my childhood in Europe and was exposed to many of the locations where some of these horrible things happened and it only made my wanting to learn more greater. I'm looking forward to visiting my parents in Germany and getting to visit Auschwitz and Dachau. Nobody should be sheltered from what happened. It changed EVERYONE'S lives. And don't worry about it traumatizing kids, look at what they're exposed to on a daily basis on TV and the internet. I mean Paris Hilton and all those kinds of people frighten me more. I'm due to have a girl in July and by the time she's in kindergarten all the girls will be dressing like sluts. Worry about that more than teaching our kids about what REALITY can be like!</p>
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		<title>By: baphomet</title>
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		<dc:creator>baphomet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j&#039;ai tellement honte d&#039;etre français...
this guy isn&#039;t a president, 56% of us are unhappy of all his decisions, like DNA test for foreigners, marrying a bitch to be love by the opinion...his son is now in politic, he seems to be as bad as his father...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>j'ai tellement honte d'etre français...<br />
this guy isn't a president, 56% of us are unhappy of all his decisions, like DNA test for foreigners, marrying a bitch to be love by the opinion...his son is now in politic, he seems to be as bad as his father...</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say this as someone who identifies as &#039;from the left&#039;, but can&#039;t help but feel that those deriding the idea would have supported it had it come from a socialist politician rather than Sarkozy. 

The comment from Madam Veil makes no sense to me, “unimaginable, unbearable, tragic and above all, unjust”?

Would she prefer no mention of the holocaust? No mention of the French role? No personification of the victims of What part is unjust? Maybe if she was Roma, I could see it, but what part is so offensive to some with the title: (honorary) president of the Foundation for the Memory of the Holocaust? I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say this as someone who identifies as 'from the left', but can't help but feel that those deriding the idea would have supported it had it come from a socialist politician rather than Sarkozy. </p>
<p>The comment from Madam Veil makes no sense to me, “unimaginable, unbearable, tragic and above all, unjust”?</p>
<p>Would she prefer no mention of the holocaust? No mention of the French role? No personification of the victims of What part is unjust? Maybe if she was Roma, I could see it, but what part is so offensive to some with the title: (honorary) president of the Foundation for the Memory of the Holocaust? I don't get it.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff d</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diary of Anne Frank anyone? that book traumatized me to no end as well as stirring my nascent sense of injustice and fully illustrating right from wrong and the presence of evil in daily life. i was so outraged and moved by that book as a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diary of Anne Frank anyone? that book traumatized me to no end as well as stirring my nascent sense of injustice and fully illustrating right from wrong and the presence of evil in daily life. i was so outraged and moved by that book as a child.</p>
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		<title>By: empty-minded</title>
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		<dc:creator>empty-minded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To see the document card of the little girl is so incredibly sorrowful.  But I think that my emotional reaction is due to my perspective as an adult.  I do not think it is reasonable to infer that a 10 year old would have the same emotional reaction without having the life experience to appreciate the horror of what occurred during the holocaust.  That being said I would not expect the children to be exposed to the full details and extent of the tragedy of the children of the holocaust.

But if Mr. Sarkozy&#039;s intent is to instill a sense of empathy for these children, what&#039;s wrong with using as the example the living children of Darfur, or the child-soldiers of Rwanda, or Afganistan, or Iraq, or Tibet?  What about the children of the Trail of Tears, or American slavery, or the Irish famine, or the British workshops?  Our history is replete with examples of children killed or traumatized by the subjugation of one group by another.

Now I&#039;m bummed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see the document card of the little girl is so incredibly sorrowful.  But I think that my emotional reaction is due to my perspective as an adult.  I do not think it is reasonable to infer that a 10 year old would have the same emotional reaction without having the life experience to appreciate the horror of what occurred during the holocaust.  That being said I would not expect the children to be exposed to the full details and extent of the tragedy of the children of the holocaust.</p>
<p>But if Mr. Sarkozy's intent is to instill a sense of empathy for these children, what's wrong with using as the example the living children of Darfur, or the child-soldiers of Rwanda, or Afganistan, or Iraq, or Tibet?  What about the children of the Trail of Tears, or American slavery, or the Irish famine, or the British workshops?  Our history is replete with examples of children killed or traumatized by the subjugation of one group by another.</p>
<p>Now I'm bummed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Amig o home</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amig o home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the Problem? Life is life, death is death, 10 year olds know that for true. Everyone should learn about great losses and fear, so they can cope with it later in life.
To &quot;protect the little souls&quot; is to weaken their minds with lullabies and &quot;i-ty-ty and they lived happily ever after&quot;-stories.

Life is not a nice soft bubble, and kids should not life in some kind of concrete bunker erected by their &quot;caring&quot; parents - which includes sex ed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the Problem? Life is life, death is death, 10 year olds know that for true. Everyone should learn about great losses and fear, so they can cope with it later in life.<br />
To "protect the little souls" is to weaken their minds with lullabies and "i-ty-ty and they lived happily ever after"-stories.</p>
<p>Life is not a nice soft bubble, and kids should not life in some kind of concrete bunker erected by their "caring" parents - which includes sex ed!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, don&#039;t they do this at the Museum of Tolerance in L.A.? I believe that you&#039;re given a card with someone&#039;s name and at the end you find out if they lived or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, don't they do this at the Museum of Tolerance in L.A.? I believe that you're given a card with someone's name and at the end you find out if they lived or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s too bad that they put an end to this project. I think it was a wonderful idea. I learned about the holocaust when I was about in fifth grade and it absolutely scarred me. I devoured any fiction I could about the holocaust and was fortunate enough to meet some holocaust survivors at my high school. The stories of the holocaust have stayed with me and it sickens me that, even after such a horrible example of how evil people can be on such a grand scale, we STILL have genocide happening today (and too few people who care). Maybe more people should be be scarred by the reality of our human history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's too bad that they put an end to this project. I think it was a wonderful idea. I learned about the holocaust when I was about in fifth grade and it absolutely scarred me. I devoured any fiction I could about the holocaust and was fortunate enough to meet some holocaust survivors at my high school. The stories of the holocaust have stayed with me and it sickens me that, even after such a horrible example of how evil people can be on such a grand scale, we STILL have genocide happening today (and too few people who care). Maybe more people should be be scarred by the reality of our human history.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502394</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really agree with using somebody&#039;s name since it verges on expoloitation of the dead person. How can you really know that much about a child who died in the Holocaust, aside from a few pictures and genealogical information? It would be tempting for people to start making things up, and transferring their own opinions into the material.

Children should learn about war, but how much do they really absorb when they&#039;re really young?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't really agree with using somebody's name since it verges on expoloitation of the dead person. How can you really know that much about a child who died in the Holocaust, aside from a few pictures and genealogical information? It would be tempting for people to start making things up, and transferring their own opinions into the material.</p>
<p>Children should learn about war, but how much do they really absorb when they're really young?</p>
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		<title>By: oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502376</link>
		<dc:creator>oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids need to learn German history from 1919-1939.  Kids should learn why it happened, not just &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids need to learn German history from 1919-1939.  Kids should learn why it happened, not just <i>what</i> happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502299</link>
		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea was under too much pressure and was called off.

We live in time when you can call teaching about holocaust a psychological torture. Not so long ago the age of reason was 7 years old. Reason? Because you could start to work at that age.
I believe we should rejoice (at least in the so called western world) about the possibility of this dialog. 

Nonetheless I disagree with Simone Veil. I met a French IT consultant recently who told me he discovered the holocaust in history class, when he was 17. Isn&#039;t that a little bit late?

Nazism, Communism, Terrorism : give your kids facts, so history does not repeat itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea was under too much pressure and was called off.</p>
<p>We live in time when you can call teaching about holocaust a psychological torture. Not so long ago the age of reason was 7 years old. Reason? Because you could start to work at that age.<br />
I believe we should rejoice (at least in the so called western world) about the possibility of this dialog. </p>
<p>Nonetheless I disagree with Simone Veil. I met a French IT consultant recently who told me he discovered the holocaust in history class, when he was 17. Isn't that a little bit late?</p>
<p>Nazism, Communism, Terrorism : give your kids facts, so history does not repeat itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502192</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be a great idea. Kids are not nearly as fragile as adults seem to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be a great idea. Kids are not nearly as fragile as adults seem to think.</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502191</link>
		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in agreement with bean, though I think it makes sense for some additional emphasis on the European holocaust for French children, given the locality of the history and continued relevance. But more generally,children ought to learn that our recent century was a century of holocausts, and to appreciate that the factors within human nature to produce holocausts remain everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in agreement with bean, though I think it makes sense for some additional emphasis on the European holocaust for French children, given the locality of the history and continued relevance. But more generally,children ought to learn that our recent century was a century of holocausts, and to appreciate that the factors within human nature to produce holocausts remain everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin13</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502180</link>
		<dc:creator>caitlin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea. Modern kids likely would not be traumatized, thanks to TV shows and video games. That&#039;s not to say it&#039;ll just roll off them, but the point is to make an impression, which it will (hopefully) do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it's a great idea. Modern kids likely would not be traumatized, thanks to TV shows and video games. That's not to say it'll just roll off them, but the point is to make an impression, which it will (hopefully) do.</p>
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		<title>By: bean</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502177</link>
		<dc:creator>bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main problems in grade school history classes today is that textbooks focus too much on the big, famous wars and not enough on smaller issues. Forcing these kids to focus heavily on individuals in the European Holocaust may be less worthwhile in the long run than studying the Long March in China or all the purging in Laos and Burma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main problems in grade school history classes today is that textbooks focus too much on the big, famous wars and not enough on smaller issues. Forcing these kids to focus heavily on individuals in the European Holocaust may be less worthwhile in the long run than studying the Long March in China or all the purging in Laos and Burma.</p>
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		<title>By: Nastia</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502159</link>
		<dc:creator>Nastia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great idea, like the paper clips project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Clips_Project) in the states</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great idea, like the paper clips project (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Clips_Project" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Clips_Project</a>) in the states</p>
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		<title>By: Lemons</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502146</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly, students in Poland are required by law to visit the Auschwitz sites in fifth grade.  I think it&#039;s a good idea to make it a little more personal, but it&#039;s true that this proposal might be a bit much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, students in Poland are required by law to visit the Auschwitz sites in fifth grade.  I think it's a good idea to make it a little more personal, but it's true that this proposal might be a bit much.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502076</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it sounds like a decent idea.  Of course, you would have to be careful with how graphic you made the lessons.  Just knowing that that child didn&#039;t make it out of the camp would be more than enough for some.

Maybe children would have a little more empathy if they learned something like this instead of dry dates and facts that don&#039;t really mean anything to them.  And maybe they wouldn&#039;t grow up to want to kill each other.  We can always hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it sounds like a decent idea.  Of course, you would have to be careful with how graphic you made the lessons.  Just knowing that that child didn't make it out of the camp would be more than enough for some.</p>
<p>Maybe children would have a little more empathy if they learned something like this instead of dry dates and facts that don't really mean anything to them.  And maybe they wouldn't grow up to want to kill each other.  We can always hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempscire</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502067</link>
		<dc:creator>Tempscire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea. I wonder how traumatizing it would really be... probably depends on how in-depth the kids&#039; coverage of the Holocaust victim&#039;s interment and death would be. Even then, perhaps not, if the kids can&#039;t properly relate to that level of suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea. I wonder how traumatizing it would really be... probably depends on how in-depth the kids' coverage of the Holocaust victim's interment and death would be. Even then, perhaps not, if the kids can't properly relate to that level of suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: liphttam1</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-502036</link>
		<dc:creator>liphttam1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AWW so tragic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWW so tragic</p>
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		<title>By: CheeseDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/05/sarkozy-fifth-graders-should-learn-about-the-life-of-1-of-the-10000-french-children-killed-in-the-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-501957</link>
		<dc:creator>CheeseDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea.</p>
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