Comments on: Apple vs. the Big Apple http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:46:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Raj http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-523780 Raj Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:55:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-523780 I use Apple computers and have for years after getting fed up with PCs. I definitely favor the OS more than any other because of it's simplicity and reliability. I like them, but I'm not about to paste their logo everywhere and start wearing black long-sleeved shirts with jeans. When Apple does crap like going after NY (or the Beatles' label) I just shake my head. Nobody's going to mistake that GreeNYC for a computer, and selling that fruit in grocery stores is not going to 'confuse the consumer'. Pulleeze. Stop being so petty. I use Apple computers and have for years after getting fed up with PCs. I definitely favor the OS more than any other because of it's simplicity and reliability. I like them, but I'm not about to paste their logo everywhere and start wearing black long-sleeved shirts with jeans. When Apple does crap like going after NY (or the Beatles' label) I just shake my head. Nobody's going to mistake that GreeNYC for a computer, and selling that fruit in grocery stores is not going to 'confuse the consumer'. Pulleeze. Stop being so petty.

]]> By: liphttam1 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-500466 liphttam1 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:38:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-500466 this is why I love the pc pc's are awsome pc's are great i love pc's id take em on a date GOOOOOO!!!! PC!!! yay wow that was spontainios and fun lol XD this is why I love the pc

pc's are awsome
pc's are great
i love pc's
id take em on a date
GOOOOOO!!!! PC!!! yay

wow that was spontainios and fun lol XD

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-500285 Alex Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:55:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-500285 It's actually a trademark issue - not a copyright one. When you apply for a trademark with the US Patent and Trademark office, new applications are published by the office for public comment (i.e. to give trademark holders opportunity to peruse new applications to see if there are anything that may conflict). Because a company doesn't normally want to spend its time watching the list, they contract services that specialize in doing so. Naturally, to justify their expenses, these services pounce on ANYTHING that resembles - or potentially resembles - the trademark they're paid to watch. A trademark lawyer's bread and butter is to rebut new trademark applications on behalf of their clients (about 0.5 hours worth of work cutting and pasting a letter from their repertoire of past letters, and they bill for 7 hours) - they submit letters to the USPTO, which will then decide whether to grant the applicant the trademark or not. How do I know this? I've trademarked stuff in the past - with a lawyer and by myself :) It's actually a trademark issue - not a copyright one.

When you apply for a trademark with the US Patent and Trademark office, new applications are published by the office for public comment (i.e. to give trademark holders opportunity to peruse new applications to see if there are anything that may conflict).

Because a company doesn't normally want to spend its time watching the list, they contract services that specialize in doing so. Naturally, to justify their expenses, these services pounce on ANYTHING that resembles - or potentially resembles - the trademark they're paid to watch.

A trademark lawyer's bread and butter is to rebut new trademark applications on behalf of their clients (about 0.5 hours worth of work cutting and pasting a letter from their repertoire of past letters, and they bill for 7 hours) - they submit letters to the USPTO, which will then decide whether to grant the applicant the trademark or not.

How do I know this? I've trademarked stuff in the past - with a lawyer and by myself :)

]]> By: SenorMysterioso http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499983 SenorMysterioso Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499983 Im a mac loyalist but this is ridiculous. Next - Apple sues Adam and Eve, Isaac Newton and Johnny Appleseed for copyright infringement. Im a mac loyalist but this is ridiculous.

Next - Apple sues Adam and Eve, Isaac Newton and Johnny Appleseed for copyright infringement.

]]> By: snackcakes http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499722 snackcakes Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:27:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499722 this is a shame, I hate to see this sort of thing distracting from the quality of interface and culture they have cultivated. this is a shame, I hate to see this sort of thing distracting from the quality of interface and culture they have cultivated.

]]> By: Dave http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499600 Dave Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:15:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499600 Q: What's brown and black and looks good on an Apple Legal Rep? A: A doberman. Another example of Apple's legal arm tarnishing the reputation of the rest of the organization. Q: What's brown and black and looks good on an Apple Legal Rep?
A: A doberman.

Another example of Apple's legal arm tarnishing the reputation of the rest of the organization.

]]> By: Viola http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499570 Viola Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:25:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499570 Hey, Apple... Did you know trees are now *growing* your logo? How dare they infringe upon your copyright! I suggest getting that taken care of immediately. Hey, Apple... Did you know trees are now *growing* your logo? How dare they infringe upon your copyright! I suggest getting that taken care of immediately.

]]> By: JamesM http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499442 JamesM Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:23:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499442 Between this, Leopard blue screening after install, their OS being the ONLY system to be compromised out of the box (and fully patched) at Pwn to Own and the case with their LCD spec fraud... Apple is already well underway to becoming the next Microsoft. Between this, Leopard blue screening after install, their OS being the ONLY system to be compromised out of the box (and fully patched) at Pwn to Own and the case with their LCD spec fraud... Apple is already well underway to becoming the next Microsoft.

]]> By: adriano518 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499378 adriano518 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:31:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499378 dont even look remotly similar dont even look remotly similar

]]> By: caitlin13 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499223 caitlin13 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:09:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499223 I've read the comments posted here and on Wired, and there is a serious shift in opinion. I was really annoyed with humanity after reading the comments here but I'm happy to see some common sense displayed on Wired. I've read the comments posted here and on Wired, and there is a serious shift in opinion. I was really annoyed with humanity after reading the comments here but I'm happy to see some common sense displayed on Wired.

]]> By: sigh http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499209 sigh Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:52:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499209 Next they'll copyright the letter "i" since it's in front of every darn thing they make now. Next they'll copyright the letter "i" since it's in front of every darn thing they make now.

]]> By: caitlin13 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499143 caitlin13 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:10:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499143 Jeez what a bunch of pissed off people. It's just business, jesus christ. Jeez what a bunch of pissed off people. It's just business, jesus christ.

]]> By: phoenix http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499086 phoenix Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:03:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499086 I love me some Apple, but damn - really? Seriously Apple? Honestly. :( I love me some Apple, but damn - really? Seriously Apple?

Honestly. :(

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499065 ted Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:13:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499065 Maybe Nissan should sue New York - looks like an infinity sign to me. Sounds like their Infiniti to me. Maybe Nissan should sue New York - looks like an infinity sign to me. Sounds like their Infiniti to me.

]]> By: SB http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-499064 SB Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:13:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-499064 I am so sick of companies copyrighting basic common words and phrases that people use everyday. I design t-shirts and there are certain ordinary words like caution and cutie pie that you can't use because someone has copyrighted them. It's so annoying. I totally get coming with a brand new word like snogglebuzz and copyrighting that, but the word caution? You should not be able to copyright that. Also when is Apple going to sue Gwenith Paltrow for naming her kid Apple? Since they so obviously own the word apple. I am so sick of companies copyrighting basic common words and phrases that people use everyday. I design t-shirts and there are certain ordinary words like caution and cutie pie that you can't use because someone has copyrighted them. It's so annoying. I totally get coming with a brand new word like snogglebuzz and copyrighting that, but the word caution? You should not be able to copyright that.

Also when is Apple going to sue Gwenith Paltrow for naming her kid Apple? Since they so obviously own the word apple.

]]> By: DrJones http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498990 DrJones Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:00:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498990 Mmm, maybe Apple should take a long look at their logo and come up with something more creative! :p Mmm, maybe Apple should take a long look at their logo and come up with something more creative! :p

]]> By: su.wei http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498985 su.wei Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:56:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498985 oh come on! there are enough apples in the world for everyone. oh come on! there are enough apples in the world for everyone.

]]> By: CheeseDuck http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498965 CheeseDuck Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:31:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498965 Wow. Why not just sue everything with "apple" in it while you're at it! Wow. Why not just sue everything with "apple" in it while you're at it!

]]> By: Sofar http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498956 Sofar Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:27:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498956 Apple Inc. should try hard to remember all the copyright infringement grief they got from Apple Records back in the day. Apple Inc. should try hard to remember all the copyright infringement grief they got from Apple Records back in the day.

]]> By: gmsc http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498920 gmsc Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:29:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498920 To me, it looks like a half-apple. If anybody should be suing, it should be Apple records, not Apple, Inc.. I think the case would end rather quickly once it gets to court. The defendants should simply call up a member of Apple, Inc.'s legal team and say, "I'm sure we'll all agree that one of the most distinguishing marks of Apple, Inc.'s logo is the bite out of the Apple. Would you please point to the bite out of the NYC/Whole Foods apple deptiction? What's that? You can't?" To me, it looks like a half-apple. If anybody should be suing, it should be Apple records, not Apple, Inc..

I think the case would end rather quickly once it gets to court. The defendants should simply call up a member of Apple, Inc.'s legal team and say, "I'm sure we'll all agree that one of the most distinguishing marks of Apple, Inc.'s logo is the bite out of the Apple. Would you please point to the bite out of the NYC/Whole Foods apple deptiction? What's that? You can't?"

]]> By: Tony LaRocca http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498850 Tony LaRocca Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:21:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498850 Funny, I didn't know you could copyright a fruit. What was it Shakespeare said about lawyers... Funny, I didn't know you could copyright a fruit. What was it Shakespeare said about lawyers...

]]> By: sigh http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498839 sigh Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:19:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498839 Wow, no matter what happens, if Apple ever makes anything with the word "big" in it, NYC should go after Apple. I guess I just don't understand why companies are getting so stupid about their "copyrights" while they completely dash their company reputation. And I don't think very many people would confuse the NYC logo with Apple computer's logo. NYC's doesn't even have a bite mark. Wow, no matter what happens, if Apple ever makes anything with the word "big" in it, NYC should go after Apple.

I guess I just don't understand why companies are getting so stupid about their "copyrights" while they completely dash their company reputation.

And I don't think very many people would confuse the NYC logo with Apple computer's logo. NYC's doesn't even have a bite mark.

]]> By: JoBo S http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498825 JoBo S Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:56:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498825 make....the....maddness....STOP! make....the....maddness....STOP!

]]> By: Dave9 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498823 Dave9 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:50:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498823 The Apple Corps vs Apple Computer case was about an old agreement they made back in the 70's where Apple Comp promised not to be involved in anything that would seem like they were selling or making music, and this was to prevent confusion about the name and logo. Then came iTunes... The Apple Corps vs Apple Computer case was about an old agreement they made back in the 70's where Apple Comp promised not to be involved in anything that would seem like they were selling or making music, and this was to prevent confusion about the name and logo. Then came iTunes...

]]> By: Taylor http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498820 Taylor Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:48:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498820 whoops keyboard malfunction. ...Anyway, its only a matter of time before we start suing produce. Guard your oranges, people. whoops keyboard malfunction.
...Anyway, its only a matter of time before we start suing produce. Guard your oranges, people.

]]> By: Taylor http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498816 Taylor Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:47:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498816 Its only a matter of time before we start suin Its only a matter of time before we start suin

]]> By: probinu http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498813 probinu Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:46:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498813 didn't some celebrity name their kid apple? They should be sued also. didn't some celebrity name their kid apple? They should be sued also.

]]> By: Deanie http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498793 Deanie Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:17:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498793 NYC has been The Big Apple since at least the 1920's. Watch a few very old movies. It was probably The Big Apple before movies were invented! Sheesh! NYC has been The Big Apple since at least the 1920's. Watch a few very old movies. It was probably The Big Apple before movies were invented!

Sheesh!

]]> By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498766 Thomas Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:38:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498766 tarded tarded

]]> By: graffiksguru http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-498749 graffiksguru Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:10:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/04/03/apple-vs-the-big-apple/#comment-498749 I can't tell the difference, they look the same to me. /sarcasm I can't tell the difference, they look the same to me.

/sarcasm

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