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	<title>Comments on: Vintage Ad for Chubby Girls</title>
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		<title>By: firithlotiel</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-492637</link>
		<dc:creator>firithlotiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although they weren't afraid to call girls chubby, I think when I was a kid I'd still cry over it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although they weren&#8217;t afraid to call girls chubby, I think when I was a kid I&#8217;d still cry over it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: linabeena</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-490748</link>
		<dc:creator>linabeena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find disturbing is that the drawing of the girl does not look 'chubby' at all. Is that what they considered big back then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find disturbing is that the drawing of the girl does not look &#8216;chubby&#8217; at all. Is that what they considered big back then?</p>
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		<title>By: Moodindigo</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-490139</link>
		<dc:creator>Moodindigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sunny

I would have thought that the apostrophe before the word "Teen" is perfectly okay if the word isn't in common usage the way it is in the USA (it's not that common in the UK yet) today. 'Teen is short for sixteen (or seventeen, or eighteen, etc). 

What is offensive is the capitalisation. If it is an abbreviation of sixteen it should be a lower case "t". But, it is in a heading so I'm not sure if you should apply grammar too stringently.

@amanderpanderer

Does that mean I can get a girl scout uniform for my girlfriend (who no longer has hers) in the states? Is that wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sunny</p>
<p>I would have thought that the apostrophe before the word &#8220;Teen&#8221; is perfectly okay if the word isn&#8217;t in common usage the way it is in the USA (it&#8217;s not that common in the UK yet) today. &#8216;Teen is short for sixteen (or seventeen, or eighteen, etc). </p>
<p>What is offensive is the capitalisation. If it is an abbreviation of sixteen it should be a lower case &#8220;t&#8221;. But, it is in a heading so I&#8217;m not sure if you should apply grammar too stringently.</p>
<p>@amanderpanderer</p>
<p>Does that mean I can get a girl scout uniform for my girlfriend (who no longer has hers) in the states? Is that wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: bean</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489978</link>
		<dc:creator>bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm absolutely sick of the new misuse of the term curvy. Curvy means not angular, it does not mean 40 pounds overweight. Heidi Klum is curvy; Oprah is just fat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m absolutely sick of the new misuse of the term curvy. Curvy means not angular, it does not mean 40 pounds overweight. Heidi Klum is curvy; Oprah is just fat.</p>
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		<title>By: Caro</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489974</link>
		<dc:creator>Caro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think vanity sizing explains a 10 1/2 being a "chubby" size.  Outside the US, where vanity sizing isn't the norm, sizes run very differently.  I'm a 4 or 6 in the US, but in New Zealand I'm a 12 or 14.  I've even noticed re-sizing going on in my lifetime (I'm 27)-- I used to be a 6 or an 8, and I don't think I've lost significant weight since then.  Yet, my clothing size has gone down.  

One wonders when this trend will end; it is already possible to buy a size 00.  Eventually, will we all be sized in varying numbers of zeros, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think vanity sizing explains a 10 1/2 being a &#8220;chubby&#8221; size.  Outside the US, where vanity sizing isn&#8217;t the norm, sizes run very differently.  I&#8217;m a 4 or 6 in the US, but in New Zealand I&#8217;m a 12 or 14.  I&#8217;ve even noticed re-sizing going on in my lifetime (I&#8217;m 27)&#8211; I used to be a 6 or an 8, and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve lost significant weight since then.  Yet, my clothing size has gone down.  </p>
<p>One wonders when this trend will end; it is already possible to buy a size 00.  Eventually, will we all be sized in varying numbers of zeros, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489901</link>
		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer "Rubenesque", myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer &#8220;Rubenesque&#8221;, myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489862</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I'm moderately bothered by the word chubby, I'm even more bothered by the apostrophe before the word teen. Why is it there? It isn't short for anything! (Well, arguably, it could be short for teenager, but then the apostrophe would occur after the word, not before it.) Baffling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m moderately bothered by the word chubby, I&#8217;m even more bothered by the apostrophe before the word teen. Why is it there? It isn&#8217;t short for anything! (Well, arguably, it could be short for teenager, but then the apostrophe would occur after the word, not before it.) Baffling.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempscire</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489676</link>
		<dc:creator>Tempscire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, clothing sizes have changed since then. Unfortunately, it's now vanity sizing...if you were to try on some clothing from the 40s or 50s, you'd probably have to get a larger size than what you would wear nowadays. Marilyn Monroe-- curvy but certainly not obese-- was a size 14 back in her day, iirc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, clothing sizes have changed since then. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s now vanity sizing&#8230;if you were to try on some clothing from the 40s or 50s, you&#8217;d probably have to get a larger size than what you would wear nowadays. Marilyn Monroe&#8211; curvy but certainly not obese&#8211; was a size 14 back in her day, iirc.</p>
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		<title>By: sal</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489547</link>
		<dc:creator>sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kinda like it, but I guess everyone has a different opinion on the word 'chubby.'  Plus, it's a free fashion book!  You can't be mad at that!

@amanderpanderer- On the thought of modern day terms, I never considered 'plus size' as all that insulting before, since it was about the clothing sizes (do please bring 'chubby' back, though).  But I definitely agree about 'pretty plus.'  That really does seem to refer to the wearer instead of the clothes.

Guys really don't have it that bad, I guess.  Getting nice clothes in our sizes just means shopping at a 'big &#38; tall' store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda like it, but I guess everyone has a different opinion on the word &#8216;chubby.&#8217;  Plus, it&#8217;s a free fashion book!  You can&#8217;t be mad at that!</p>
<p>@amanderpanderer- On the thought of modern day terms, I never considered &#8216;plus size&#8217; as all that insulting before, since it was about the clothing sizes (do please bring &#8216;chubby&#8217; back, though).  But I definitely agree about &#8216;pretty plus.&#8217;  That really does seem to refer to the wearer instead of the clothes.</p>
<p>Guys really don&#8217;t have it that bad, I guess.  Getting nice clothes in our sizes just means shopping at a &#8216;big &amp; tall&#8217; store.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, these "chubby" sizes are probably the same measurements as today's "normal" sizes... with yesterday's "normal" morphing into today's "slim".  People have gotten fatter and sizes have been changed.  If you took today's "plus" sizes for girls back in a time machine, you'd probably get laughed at... or the people would be horrified that we allow our children to become obese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, these &#8220;chubby&#8221; sizes are probably the same measurements as today&#8217;s &#8220;normal&#8221; sizes&#8230; with yesterday&#8217;s &#8220;normal&#8221; morphing into today&#8217;s &#8220;slim&#8221;.  People have gotten fatter and sizes have been changed.  If you took today&#8217;s &#8220;plus&#8221; sizes for girls back in a time machine, you&#8217;d probably get laughed at&#8230; or the people would be horrified that we allow our children to become obese.</p>
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		<title>By: amanderpanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanderpanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's better than the JCPenny "Husky" (for boys) and "Pretty Plus" for girls. I'd prefer "Chubby" to the weirdly proper "Pretty Plus" (which I always took to mean "Plus Some Fat."  I hate the term Plus Size...I should start a committee to bring Chubby back. I'd wear charming Chubby-sized clothes. That would rock.  

(I was just discussing yesterday the mix of sorrow and joy I feel when I see "Pretty Plus" Girl Scout uniforms. I feel bad for the 10 year olds who must wear them, but thrilled that I can get one in my size...WOO HOOO!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s better than the JCPenny &#8220;Husky&#8221; (for boys) and &#8220;Pretty Plus&#8221; for girls. I&#8217;d prefer &#8220;Chubby&#8221; to the weirdly proper &#8220;Pretty Plus&#8221; (which I always took to mean &#8220;Plus Some Fat.&#8221;  I hate the term Plus Size&#8230;I should start a committee to bring Chubby back. I&#8217;d wear charming Chubby-sized clothes. That would rock.  </p>
<p>(I was just discussing yesterday the mix of sorrow and joy I feel when I see &#8220;Pretty Plus&#8221; Girl Scout uniforms. I feel bad for the 10 year olds who must wear them, but thrilled that I can get one in my size&#8230;WOO HOOO!)</p>
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		<title>By: smak</title>
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		<dc:creator>smak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the clothing sizes are the same now as they were then, it's interesting to note that a "teen" (now called "junior") size "10" was considered "chubby". 

Isn't that about average nowadays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the clothing sizes are the same now as they were then, it&#8217;s interesting to note that a &#8220;teen&#8221; (now called &#8220;junior&#8221;) size &#8220;10&#8243; was considered &#8220;chubby&#8221;. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that about average nowadays?</p>
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		<title>By: hedwig</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/25/vintage-ad-for-chubby-girls/#comment-489269</link>
		<dc:creator>hedwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>size 8 1/2 is chubby... maybe if you're really short...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>size 8 1/2 is chubby&#8230; maybe if you&#8217;re really short&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To think "chubbies" as a noun means something completely different these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think &#8220;chubbies&#8221; as a noun means something completely different these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Wincey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wincey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack, bring back horrid memories to the middle-aged amongst your readers, thanks a lot!  Sears also sold "chubby" clothes and, even as a little kid, I knew there was something terribly, terribly wrong with their advertising scheme, and I simply refused to go there.  Many years later, I had a dream that the Sears Tower (which I passed daily) was a massive looming Chubby Dress.

The scars will *never* heal ... NEVER!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack, bring back horrid memories to the middle-aged amongst your readers, thanks a lot!  Sears also sold &#8220;chubby&#8221; clothes and, even as a little kid, I knew there was something terribly, terribly wrong with their advertising scheme, and I simply refused to go there.  Many years later, I had a dream that the Sears Tower (which I passed daily) was a massive looming Chubby Dress.</p>
<p>The scars will *never* heal &#8230; NEVER!!!</p>
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