Comments on: The Stories Behind Four Exorcisms http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:42:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: vertol http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-514231 vertol Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:44:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-514231 To Believer, Even more powerful than God are the human facilities of logic and reason (see Stone Problem as well as the contradiction inherent in being omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent). To Believer,

Even more powerful than God are the human facilities of logic and reason (see Stone Problem as well as the contradiction inherent in being omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent).

]]> By: Believer http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-503248 Believer Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:54:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-503248 To Anon, Yes, demons are very powerful. But they are no match for God. It appears you are knowledgeable of how that world works. If so, then you are aware that there is nothing that they can do to overcome the power of God and Jesus. I'm no Bible thumper, but I do know God's power is infinitely greater than demons'. You know it, I know it, and certainly they know it. Oh! Another thing, those "former gods" that you refer to as the ones that are actually being exorcised, they too are demons. They are also part of the fallen angels that we were told about millenia ago. Don't be fooled. They too are no match for God's power. To Anon,

Yes, demons are very powerful. But they are no match for God. It appears you are knowledgeable of how that world works. If so, then you are aware that there is nothing that they can do to overcome the power of God and Jesus. I’m no Bible thumper, but I do know God’s power is infinitely greater than demons’. You know it, I know it, and certainly they know it.

Oh! Another thing, those “former gods” that you refer to as the ones that are actually being exorcised, they too are demons. They are also part of the fallen angels that we were told about millenia ago. Don’t be fooled. They too are no match for God’s power.

]]> By: Padraig http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-488886 Padraig Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:10:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-488886 When all else fails, there is still hope: John Constantine, Hellblazer. :D When all else fails, there is still hope: John Constantine, Hellblazer. :D

]]> By: TyrannicalDuck http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-488661 TyrannicalDuck Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:30:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-488661 Actually, exorcism isn't even restricted to Christianity. In Islam, possession is attributed to jinn, not demons. My wife personally witnessed an Islamic exorcism: a young lady of about 18 was apparently possessed, and brought before a muslim cleric. He summoned another young girl (probably around 13 or 14 years old), and said that he was going to work through her to exorcise the possessed girl (don't ask...I don't know). He then proceeded to talk to some other jinn through the younger girl, and told the jinn to "burn" the possessing jinn, in effect killing it. The younger girl, who only spoke Portuguese, spoke in fluent Urdu in a man's voice the entire time. My wife says that the screams from the older, possessed girl were horrifying in the least, and she still has nightmares about it. Actually, exorcism isn’t even restricted to Christianity. In Islam, possession is attributed to jinn, not demons. My wife personally witnessed an Islamic exorcism: a young lady of about 18 was apparently possessed, and brought before a muslim cleric. He summoned another young girl (probably around 13 or 14 years old), and said that he was going to work through her to exorcise the possessed girl (don’t ask…I don’t know). He then proceeded to talk to some other jinn through the younger girl, and told the jinn to “burn” the possessing jinn, in effect killing it. The younger girl, who only spoke Portuguese, spoke in fluent Urdu in a man’s voice the entire time. My wife says that the screams from the older, possessed girl were horrifying in the least, and she still has nightmares about it.

]]> By: Lea http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-488076 Lea Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:03:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-488076 I read a book called "Possessed" about the possession and exorcism of Robbie Doe. I forget who it's by, but it was a really good book, and a lot more believable than the Exorcist (the movie, the book was really good). And from what I have read, I believe today, when a Catholic priest performs an exorcism, it must be okayed by the Vatican, performed by a trained Exorcist, and attended by a medical doctor and psychologist/psychiatrist. @Leah: I think that's really neat you can add some personal familial insight into the movie. Also, everyone tries to spell my name like yours. :P @Ty: Robbie Doe is the second one on the list! I read a book called “Possessed” about the possession and exorcism of Robbie Doe. I forget who it’s by, but it was a really good book, and a lot more believable than the Exorcist (the movie, the book was really good).
And from what I have read, I believe today, when a Catholic priest performs an exorcism, it must be okayed by the Vatican, performed by a trained Exorcist, and attended by a medical doctor and psychologist/psychiatrist.
@Leah: I think that’s really neat you can add some personal familial insight into the movie. Also, everyone tries to spell my name like yours. :P
@Ty: Robbie Doe is the second one on the list!

]]> By: leah http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487980 leah Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:21:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487980 My dad worked as a sound man on the movie "The Exorcist" when it filmed in the Washington DC area. He said that "Robbie Doe" consulted on the film and was on set every day. (Everyone associated with the film agreed not to disclose Robbie's real name.) Dad said he seemed nice, but weird. They also had exorcists and higher ups from the Catholic Church and Catholic Univeristy (where some of the movie was filmed.) They were an unpleasant bunch and only one of them would talk to Robbie. Dad said that a lot of weird stuff happened on set, and not a day went by without someone getting hurt. Lots of people worked a day, then quit. Dad was on strike from his regular job at the time and was willing to risk his safety in order to feed the family. My dad worked as a sound man on the movie “The Exorcist” when it filmed in the Washington DC area.

He said that “Robbie Doe” consulted on the film and was on set every day. (Everyone associated with the film agreed not to disclose Robbie’s real name.) Dad said he seemed nice, but weird. They also had exorcists and higher ups from the Catholic Church and Catholic Univeristy (where some of the movie was filmed.) They were an unpleasant bunch and only one of them would talk to Robbie.

Dad said that a lot of weird stuff happened on set, and not a day went by without someone getting hurt. Lots of people worked a day, then quit. Dad was on strike from his regular job at the time and was willing to risk his safety in order to feed the family.

]]> By: anon http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487692 anon Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:34:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487692 Demonolatry is powerful, read the Goetia and use the sigils inside to contact the demons. Demons are powerful. The Church is only expelling angels who still work with the so-called god, they aren't expelling actual demons "fallen angels" (actually former gods which the church called demons). Demonolatry is powerful, read the Goetia and use the sigils inside to contact the demons.

Demons are powerful. The Church is only expelling angels who still work with the so-called god, they aren’t expelling actual demons “fallen angels” (actually former gods which the church called demons).

]]> By: Adam Stanhope http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487655 Adam Stanhope Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:16:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487655 I'm an IMDB addict as well. If I see a movie that I'm even <i>marginally</i> interested I love to go to IMDB and see where it was filmed, who was in it, what songs were on the soundtrack, etc. The "filming locations" aspect of every listing is like a little gift from the cinema gods. I’m an IMDB addict as well. If I see a movie that I’m even marginally interested I love to go to IMDB and see where it was filmed, who was in it, what songs were on the soundtrack, etc. The “filming locations” aspect of every listing is like a little gift from the cinema gods.

]]> By: Alex Fear http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487550 Alex Fear Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:24:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487550 Exorcism is not strictly limited to Catholicism and in answer to Ty above, why not do some research into an apostle by the name of Smith Wigglesworth. Wigglesworths most famous exorcism was the exorcism of a public executioner by the name of James Berry. It was successful and Berry went on to become an evangelist. Wigglesworth also had a unique technique when it came to healing people, I'll let you find that out for yourselves but it's surely worth a feature of its own on Neatorama? Exorcism is not strictly limited to Catholicism and in answer to Ty above, why not do some research into an apostle by the name of Smith Wigglesworth.

Wigglesworths most famous exorcism was the exorcism of a public executioner by the name of James Berry. It was successful and Berry went on to become an evangelist.

Wigglesworth also had a unique technique when it came to healing people, I’ll let you find that out for yourselves but it’s surely worth a feature of its own on Neatorama?

]]> By: Ty http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487433 Ty Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:52:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487433 Are there any famous examples of exorcisms on males? Are there any famous examples of exorcisms on males?

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487311 Christophe Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:29:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487311 I want to believe. Hey, how about teaming with a medical/scientific team with videos for the next exorcism? @Terry : lol I want to believe.
Hey, how about teaming with a medical/scientific team with videos for the next exorcism?

@Terry : lol

]]> By: Terry http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487303 Terry Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:07:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487303 Joke What happens if you don't pay the exorcist? You get repossessed. Ha Ha! Joke
What happens if you don’t pay the exorcist?

You get repossessed. Ha Ha!

]]> By: NiteWhite http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487289 NiteWhite Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:30:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487289 I would love to undergo an exorcism from the current Pope. He wouldn't stand a chance against my inner demon but I'd take an easy on him just for wearing a dress. I would love to undergo an exorcism from the current Pope. He wouldn’t stand a chance against my inner demon but I’d take an easy on him just for wearing a dress.

]]> By: emptyminded http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487284 emptyminded Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:21:48 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487284 Just playing devil's advocate, maybe he was counting the number of demons, not the number of people possessed. So if one person was possessed by 10 demons, this would skew the math. Just playing devil’s advocate, maybe he was counting the number of demons, not the number of people possessed. So if one person was possessed by 10 demons, this would skew the math.

]]> By: steve http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487259 steve Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:43:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487259 Just thought I'd point out that if you were to perform 50 000 exorcisms it would take you 27 years and a couple of months doing 5 a day every day except February 29th. Colour me skeptical. Just thought I’d point out that if you were to perform 50 000 exorcisms it would take you 27 years and a couple of months doing 5 a day every day except February 29th. Colour me skeptical.

]]> By: Mark http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487255 Mark Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:19:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487255 I really can't resist pointing out that, while no one is known to have died from demonic possession, there are many cases of subjects who deaths were caused by exorcism. I really can’t resist pointing out that, while no one is known to have died from demonic possession, there are many cases of subjects who deaths were caused by exorcism.

]]> By: Monyet Miskin http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487233 Monyet Miskin Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:47:55 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/03/21/the-stories-behind-four-exorcisms/#comment-487233 For a secular view on the matter of evil and an eye witness report on the experience of an exorcism from a non-religious, qualified psychiatrist, read M. Scott Peck's 'Children of the Lie'. Probably out of print now. For a secular view on the matter of evil and an eye witness report on the experience of an exorcism from a non-religious, qualified psychiatrist, read M. Scott Peck’s ‘Children of the Lie’. Probably out of print now.

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