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29 comments to "CERN’s Large Hadron Collider"
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NiteWhite
March 19th, 2008 at
1:17 pm
The GOD particle - hope they find it!
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Video Game Dork
March 19th, 2008 at
1:34 pm
I’m the fartherst thing from a luddite (I’d volunteer for a brain-port for computer IO.
Also, genetic modifiaction is thrilling to me)
..But things like this make me nervous. What if the black hole or ‘big bang’ isn’t containable. what if it feeds on the nearby matter to grow much stronger and more permanent than predicted.
*sigh*
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Thebes
March 19th, 2008 at
1:49 pm
This makes me a bit nervous. I don’t think one can deny the very slight risk it could kill us all. We just don’t know how a microscopic black hole or rift would react should one actually be created.
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Christophe
March 19th, 2008 at
1:55 pm
last month of Neatorama before the big black hole *sigh*
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SecretSoul
March 19th, 2008 at
1:57 pm
I’m sorry, i’m kinda dumb at this. What’s the point of the whole thing? It’s just experimental?! Let us built this massive complex and see if we can create a black hole?
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VonSkippy
March 19th, 2008 at
2:14 pm
Good Science to come for sure - but hardly a reason to put on the double layer tin foil hat.
Ultra High Energy Cosmic Rays have hit the earth several times (several observed times - with limited instruments capable of detecting only in place since the mid-90’s) with over 10 to the 8th TeV’s.
Since the LHC can only get light weight particles to 14 TeV and heavy particles a few orders less then that, the possibility of causing the end of the world/universe is pretty much nill.
People need to stop watching cheesy SciFi channel flicks and reading Popular (Junk) Science Magazine and actually learn a bit about math and physics.
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emptyminded
March 19th, 2008 at
3:01 pm
Naysayers about the LHC sound similiar to some scientists who during the Manhattan Project postulated that, when activated, the hydrogen reaction created would ignite and spread to encompass all the hydrogen in the atmosphere. Of course, it didn’t.
I applaud the audacity of CERN to devote so much resource to the process of discovery. The United States used to be the center of Science for Science’s Sake. The Government supported academic research and discovery. Now our money and attention is being drawn to different activities.
I would like to believe that CERN’s achievement can inspire us to go further and farther. We can only imagine what the future holds. But if we’re lucky, the future will hold that which we are incapable of imagining.
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Paul M
March 19th, 2008 at
3:46 pm
Little black holes, if created, would instantly dissipate according to the theory (theory) of Hawking radiation.
So y’all can sleep easy with the Professor watching your back.
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roger
March 19th, 2008 at
4:41 pm
People, people. You need to relax, and lay off the pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo fearmongering. Should a Large Hadron be ejected from the facility, there is a 70% probability that it will go straight up in the air and safely into out of space, and a 20% probability that it will emerge through one of the earths oceans after tunnelling through the Earth.
So basically there is only a 10% possibility that a Large Hadron will be ejected into a populated area, where death will be instantaneous. You would not suffer, you would be converted into an ionized plasma within nanoseconds. Those in a 6 km radius of the exit trajectory would be exposed to an effective radiation dose of 25 dental xrays - a lot, but by no means deadly.
So lay off the crazy talk and stay tuned for a new frontier in science: the biggest, baddest man-made black hole known to man!
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VonSkippy
March 19th, 2008 at
5:08 pm
@roger
Does it hurt pulling numbers like that out of your butt? -
roger
March 19th, 2008 at
5:28 pm
VonSkippy: they result from a simple calculation: div curl V = 140 TeV / gallon
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Video Game Dork
March 19th, 2008 at
5:55 pm
I think you ‘calm down!’ people are overestimating the amount of ‘nay say’.
I’m all for science for science sake. And I know that the probability of catastrophy is ‘pretty much nil’.And I know plenty about math and physics, people’s assumtions aside.
Of course, I don’t speak for the other posters here, but…
Black holes just creep me out.
(And Stephen Hawking has criticized his own work as wrong before, BTW)
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Edward
March 19th, 2008 at
6:07 pm
Damn!!! This is fun! No one knows shit and we all are having a great time trying to brag bout our personal ignorance.
Personally, I am happy that Europe is building this sort of toy instead of trying to take over the world by attacking our dollar.
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Ashley
March 19th, 2008 at
7:44 pm
Can someone please explain to me how a heat greater than that of the sun can be contained by any man-made device such as is holding it now? If heat was applied to bend it into shape, wouldn’t more heat… melt everything??
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VonSkippy
March 19th, 2008 at
8:05 pm
@Ashley
Magnets (really!). -
ted
March 19th, 2008 at
8:35 pm
Didn’t the Professor on Gilligan’s Island make one of these out of coconuts once?
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clinton labombard
March 19th, 2008 at
9:18 pm
That thing looks like Christmas in China. I really they’d put more effort into the faulty human DNA problems. If we could solve all the other crap with it we’d have a lot more fun with these kinds of ornaments.
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SiteSeer
March 20th, 2008 at
2:13 am
“Suppository ready!”
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Luudzu
March 20th, 2008 at
2:28 am
Black Mesa?
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K!P
March 20th, 2008 at
3:23 am
all wait and be hapy youl be driving car’s powerd by ZPM’s before long…
ok nerd alert….
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Wamdu
March 20th, 2008 at
3:44 am
It’s thanks to fundamental physics that you can have a computer, and a TV, and many other things. Even if we couldn’t see the applications of such an experiment, it will obviously be a quite big progress in science.
And don’t worry about little black hole, we’re not in a comic book (No, particles accelerators can’t transform you into Sandman)
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Aramax
March 20th, 2008 at
7:50 am
People getting all wroked up by this story reminds me of the nuts of Y2K.
Relax, this sort of phenomena they’re trying to produce happens in space quite frequently and we’re still alive. It will be the same thing just a lot smaller in scale.
There wont be any black holes, there wont be any distortion of space-time continuum and there wont be any plasma storm of biblical proportion.
Chances are we wont even notice they did anything at all and the end result will be a particule that can have it’s mass shaped and density shaped at will by man.
No more problem with ressources, isn’t that cool?
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Video Game Dork
March 20th, 2008 at
11:14 am
REALLY?! Physics Makes TV and ComPOOTERS?! Gooly GEE Mr! That sure is KEEN!
(Actually, It’s thanks to fundamental physics that you can exist, atoms can form molecules, gravity works, and all sorts of fun things. Not just TV).
Tiny black holes ‘in space’ don’t have matter nearby to eat to grow big and strong (like their fathers!). But, whatever.
It would be cool if particle accelerators COULD turn you into he Sandman. Then again, ‘Spiderman’ would be a crappy comic if it were about a kid dying of radiation poisoning.
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Xinavera
March 20th, 2008 at
12:36 pm
If a micro black hole was going to be created and gobble up the earth, it would have long since happened thanks to the trillions of hugely energetic cosmic rays striking the atmosphere every second. Relax, people.
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avraamov
March 20th, 2008 at
5:24 pm
have they started yet? my left leg feels sort of heavy.
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Tracy
March 21st, 2008 at
10:14 pm
I’ve got an adorable, highly qualified physicist sitting at my feet who assures me that black holes won’t be eating the earth anytime soon, and there’s a visiting CERN physicist downstairs who agrees with him. The CERN guy stands to lose the security deposit on his flat pretty definitively if he’s wrong, so I’ll give ‘em the benefit of the doubt. Still, they like to argue about the absurd possibility from time to time for a hearty guffaw.
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Levitikuz
April 2nd, 2008 at
12:07 pm
The REAL concern is that the “THEORY” of “Hawking radiation” doesnt exist and therefore the black holes that they ADMIT they WILL create about 1 per second will not “decay” as rapidly as calculated and will fall into earths core and combine with everything is encounters eventually destroying earth..and this could take yrs or seconds…no one knows..these scientist make a theory that doesnt add up and then make another theory to make sense of it all…thus proving theories with other theories..makes absolute no sense right?
In order for there “theory of elements” they THINK exist they have come up with another theory called the “higgs” and w/o all the elements they basically pulled out of there ass could never exist. Now i wont go into further detail you can research it urself but supposedly these elements actually “talk” to eachother…..but light can pass without “talking”
Im serious just look it up on youtube and watch the scientist try to explain this…
But anyways, the black holes that alot of reputable scientist are worried about because of 1 man…and of course the smartest person that has ever lived Einstien…and his theory of relativity (which btw has stood up to all experiments disigned to test it) predicts that the black hole would occur and once somthing like that is started (probably w/o us even knowing at 1st) it is irreversible once its began.
But hey, we use to put groups of Amry Soldiers in the Wave of the Radiation of the 1st Nuke testing….when we know very little about something the human race always seems to do something very retarded!! Havent we learned anything from history? -
Dimension Dan
April 9th, 2008 at
1:06 pm
Does anyone know when they will be firing up this machine? This year? Next year? I cant wait to find out if it works!
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Big Red
April 23rd, 2008 at
1:28 am
@ Dimension Dan
If we end up dead, then we’ll know it works.
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