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	<title>Comments on: Quelle horreur! French Speakers Can&#8217;t Agree on Genders of French Nouns</title>
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		<title>By: Sean Rasmussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have an iPhone or iPod Touch, I can suggest an inexpensive app 
that I&#039;ve recently made; it helps you &#039;internalize&#039;  the &#039;rules&#039; of identifying the gender of 95% of  french nouns. 

www.reflexarium.com

Regards,
Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have an iPhone or iPod Touch, I can suggest an inexpensive app<br />
that I&#8217;ve recently made; it helps you &#8216;internalize&#8217;  the &#8216;rules&#8217; of identifying the gender of 95% of  french nouns. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.reflexarium.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.reflexarium.com</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Clouthhh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clouthhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;est n&#039;importe quoi, c&#039;est des mots très facile a identifier, je crois pas que ça soit une étude sérieuse, même que d&#039;après une normale cdf, c&#039;est n&#039;importe quoi! Tout le monde est capable de réponde avec un équart type de +- 2 maximum. 
- Clouthhh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;est n&#8217;importe quoi, c&#8217;est des mots très facile a identifier, je crois pas que ça soit une étude sérieuse, même que d&#8217;après une normale cdf, c&#8217;est n&#8217;importe quoi! Tout le monde est capable de réponde avec un équart type de +- 2 maximum.<br />
- Clouthhh</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inanimate objects need genders so when we&#039;re using them as sex toys, we don&#039;t accidentally use the wrong ones.
Those French think of everything. Imagine not knowing what gender your ass burger was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inanimate objects need genders so when we&#8217;re using them as sex toys, we don&#8217;t accidentally use the wrong ones.<br />
Those French think of everything. Imagine not knowing what gender your ass burger was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quelle horreur! So be it! Watch me fix this post - Voilà! It is done...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quelle horreur! So be it! Watch me fix this post &#8211; Voilà! It is done&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing about &quot;speedo&quot; is masculine.
I&#039;ve had the same problem with gender taking Latin and Spanish. Latin is the worst because there&#039;s also the &quot;Neuter&quot; gender, which leans towards being masculine, but isn&#039;t really.
Maybe that&#039;s what speedo is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing about &#8220;speedo&#8221; is masculine.<br />
I&#8217;ve had the same problem with gender taking Latin and Spanish. Latin is the worst because there&#8217;s also the &#8220;Neuter&#8221; gender, which leans towards being masculine, but isn&#8217;t really.<br />
Maybe that&#8217;s what speedo is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quelle horreur en effet! étant moi même français je trouve que It&#039;s totaly useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quelle horreur en effet! étant moi même français je trouve que It&#8217;s totaly useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sylvain, the test is a bit strange : if only one person makes a mistake, the conclusion will be &quot;they all disagree on this word&quot;, which is not a really objective vision.

It&#039;s true that on some words (I&#039;m french too) which are not often used, we sometimes don&#039;t know. But I think it&#039;s the same for other languages which are using gender (spanish for example). For 99,9% of words, there is no problem at all ;)

Jeffrey &gt; Yes, &quot;De l&#039;horreur!&quot; means quite nothing ^^ &quot;Quelle horreur !&quot; is much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sylvain, the test is a bit strange : if only one person makes a mistake, the conclusion will be &#8220;they all disagree on this word&#8221;, which is not a really objective vision.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that on some words (I&#8217;m french too) which are not often used, we sometimes don&#8217;t know. But I think it&#8217;s the same for other languages which are using gender (spanish for example). For 99,9% of words, there is no problem at all <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jeffrey &gt; Yes, &#8220;De l&#8217;horreur!&#8221; means quite nothing ^^ &#8220;Quelle horreur !&#8221; is much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey_P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that should be &quot;Quelle horreur!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that should be &#8220;Quelle horreur!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Celania:
Once you speak French you don&#039;t really compute things as &quot;feminin&quot; or &quot;masculin&quot;. It does not have a real meaning. 
Speedo, unfortunately, is masculine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Celania:<br />
Once you speak French you don&#8217;t really compute things as &#8220;feminin&#8221; or &#8220;masculin&#8221;. It does not have a real meaning.<br />
Speedo, unfortunately, is masculine.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always had trouble with this in French class.  Glad to know I&#039;m not the only one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always had trouble with this in French class.  Glad to know I&#8217;m not the only one!</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Cellania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Cellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do inanimate objects need a gender?</description>
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		<title>By: Sylvain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I don&#039;t think so Ty. I&#039;m French and after reading the article (which is the first thing to do Ty) the Alex&#039;s article is a subjective appreciation of the original article. &quot;Agree&quot; in this article means that 100% of the speakers know the right gender of the noun. If &quot;only&quot; 97.6% answered the correct gender this article tells that &quot;speakers don&#039;t agree on the gender&quot;.

Furthermore, the main goal of this article is to compare Adults vocabulary and Teenagers vocabulary, which only means that an older person knows better his native language than a younger one... I bet I could have found this between a 2 years child and a 5 years child too ...

But I think that this article is a kind of consolation for english speakers as the genders are a difficult part of french language to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I don&#8217;t think so Ty. I&#8217;m French and after reading the article (which is the first thing to do Ty) the Alex&#8217;s article is a subjective appreciation of the original article. &#8220;Agree&#8221; in this article means that 100% of the speakers know the right gender of the noun. If &#8220;only&#8221; 97.6% answered the correct gender this article tells that &#8220;speakers don&#8217;t agree on the gender&#8221;.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the main goal of this article is to compare Adults vocabulary and Teenagers vocabulary, which only means that an older person knows better his native language than a younger one&#8230; I bet I could have found this between a 2 years child and a 5 years child too &#8230;</p>
<p>But I think that this article is a kind of consolation for english speakers as the genders are a difficult part of french language to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: ty</title>
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		<dc:creator>ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i bet spanish speakers with french as a second language would be better able to identify the gender of those french nouns than the french themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i bet spanish speakers with french as a second language would be better able to identify the gender of those french nouns than the french themselves.</p>
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