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	<title>Comments on: Testing the American Dream: The Homeless Experiment</title>
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		<title>By: Henri</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1935057</link>
		<dc:creator>Henri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 02:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Race doesn&#039;t matter, socieo-economic backround doesn&#039;t matter, and if you&#039;re popping out kids it&#039;s your fault.
I am white and I was poor. Welfare poor. Dirty nasty house, with soggy laundry all over the floor and roaches. I lived in a terrible neighboorhood and got beat up alot. My parents were idiots. I and my sister were sexually abused and I have my own set of mental issues surrounding this. But I am overcoming them.
I am now 21 and life is good. You know why, because I work and I&#039;m not lazy. I work fourty hours a week at safeway and am taking four classes at a community college. It was my first job and four years later, I still have it. Know why? Because I worked. Things are good. I have a beautiful woman, a puppy (which costed $500), I drink expensive beer every night and I,m going to school for free because of the pell grant.
That&#039;s right a 5,000 dollar check just to get me on the right track. Because I grew up poor. Because people in this country who are succesful want other&#039;s to be succesful. They don&#039;t want people dependent on welfare, they want people working against the odds and becoming success stories. I now pay taxes about 18 percent. I hope that money goes to people who are going to school and taking good care of their kids. Oh yeah and just because I am white does not mean that I am priviledged. Not by any means. Some companies are reluctant to turn down minorities for fear of backlash from the equal right&#039;s activists. I&#039;m all for equal rights, but I&#039;m not for feeling guilty about being white.--Dangit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Race doesn&#8217;t matter, socieo-economic backround doesn&#8217;t matter, and if you&#8217;re popping out kids it&#8217;s your fault.<br />
I am white and I was poor. Welfare poor. Dirty nasty house, with soggy laundry all over the floor and roaches. I lived in a terrible neighboorhood and got beat up alot. My parents were idiots. I and my sister were sexually abused and I have my own set of mental issues surrounding this. But I am overcoming them.<br />
I am now 21 and life is good. You know why, because I work and I&#8217;m not lazy. I work fourty hours a week at safeway and am taking four classes at a community college. It was my first job and four years later, I still have it. Know why? Because I worked. Things are good. I have a beautiful woman, a puppy (which costed $500), I drink expensive beer every night and I,m going to school for free because of the pell grant.<br />
That&#8217;s right a 5,000 dollar check just to get me on the right track. Because I grew up poor. Because people in this country who are succesful want other&#8217;s to be succesful. They don&#8217;t want people dependent on welfare, they want people working against the odds and becoming success stories. I now pay taxes about 18 percent. I hope that money goes to people who are going to school and taking good care of their kids. Oh yeah and just because I am white does not mean that I am priviledged. Not by any means. Some companies are reluctant to turn down minorities for fear of backlash from the equal right&#8217;s activists. I&#8217;m all for equal rights, but I&#8217;m not for feeling guilty about being white.&#8211;Dangit!</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you give Adam Shepard no credit whatsoever but the fact remains that without any family and friend support system he was able to get off the streets. He accomplished what he set out to do and regardless of having a better life to return to he stuck to accomplishing his goal. I&#039;ll excuse the mentally ill and the truely disabled but everybody else is just making excuses. People can fight their addictions, they can work past life&#039;s set backs through a myriad of ways. If you are homeless in this country, you are not working hard enough to remedy your situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you give Adam Shepard no credit whatsoever but the fact remains that without any family and friend support system he was able to get off the streets. He accomplished what he set out to do and regardless of having a better life to return to he stuck to accomplishing his goal. I&#8217;ll excuse the mentally ill and the truely disabled but everybody else is just making excuses. People can fight their addictions, they can work past life&#8217;s set backs through a myriad of ways. If you are homeless in this country, you are not working hard enough to remedy your situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayshun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayshun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy seemed to have an agenda from the offset - nothing to see here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy seemed to have an agenda from the offset &#8211; nothing to see here.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was easy was the fact that he had a safety net. At any time, he could - and ultimately did - walk away from life on the streets.

He had hope - no, that&#039;s not right - he had the certainty of an end date to his adventure. I would say poor people live without that certainty, without even the hope of somehow climing out of the abyss. There&#039;s the difference.

And as for being white and male - come on. There are plenty of white homeless males out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was easy was the fact that he had a safety net. At any time, he could &#8211; and ultimately did &#8211; walk away from life on the streets.</p>
<p>He had hope &#8211; no, that&#8217;s not right &#8211; he had the certainty of an end date to his adventure. I would say poor people live without that certainty, without even the hope of somehow climing out of the abyss. There&#8217;s the difference.</p>
<p>And as for being white and male &#8211; come on. There are plenty of white homeless males out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No booze, no drugs? Too easy.</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam  - thanks for mentioning that - exactly what I was thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam  &#8211; thanks for mentioning that &#8211; exactly what I was thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give the guy some credit. Think how hard it would be to be homeless when you look like a male model. How do you panhandle when you&#039;ve got a face like that. What bone structure. He had to succeed at succeeding, he sure wasn&#039;t going to subsist on failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give the guy some credit. Think how hard it would be to be homeless when you look like a male model. How do you panhandle when you&#8217;ve got a face like that. What bone structure. He had to succeed at succeeding, he sure wasn&#8217;t going to subsist on failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of people have mentioned that he didn&#039;t have mental illness, drug/alcohol addiction, etc... working against him, but one thing that hasn&#039;t been brought up is their propensity to make bad decisions. Mr. Shepard didn&#039;t have that same propensity; he knew what he was missing by living in poverty and made the right choices to get himself out. 

@ Jason E. said that this &quot;... could potentially be the solutions to poverty in the United States.&quot; That&#039;s a real stretch. You also mentioned that &quot;.. many impoverished remain that way because they refuse to work to improve themselves beyond their conditions... that every homeless person in America, who doesn’t have a mental illness, should be asking him/herself, “Why am I still here, and what can I do to change it?”&quot; That&#039;s a very nice sentiment, but ignores the simple fact that most of the homeless are homeless because they lack the ability make good choices, and to be honest, some lack the intelligence to make the right choices. 

Pulling oneself up by the bootstraps first requires one to decide to put on the boots, and then to pull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people have mentioned that he didn&#8217;t have mental illness, drug/alcohol addiction, etc&#8230; working against him, but one thing that hasn&#8217;t been brought up is their propensity to make bad decisions. Mr. Shepard didn&#8217;t have that same propensity; he knew what he was missing by living in poverty and made the right choices to get himself out. </p>
<p>@ Jason E. said that this &#8220;&#8230; could potentially be the solutions to poverty in the United States.&#8221; That&#8217;s a real stretch. You also mentioned that &#8220;.. many impoverished remain that way because they refuse to work to improve themselves beyond their conditions&#8230; that every homeless person in America, who doesn’t have a mental illness, should be asking him/herself, “Why am I still here, and what can I do to change it?”&#8221; That&#8217;s a very nice sentiment, but ignores the simple fact that most of the homeless are homeless because they lack the ability make good choices, and to be honest, some lack the intelligence to make the right choices. </p>
<p>Pulling oneself up by the bootstraps first requires one to decide to put on the boots, and then to pull.</p>
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		<title>By: Lelielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lelielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this makes me think of the lyrics from the Pulp song &quot;Common People&quot; and being white and male does give you much more leeway in the job market and that&#039;s not racist or sexist, that&#039;s the honest truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this makes me think of the lyrics from the Pulp song &#8220;Common People&#8221; and being white and male does give you much more leeway in the job market and that&#8217;s not racist or sexist, that&#8217;s the honest truth.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there are many, many legal issues involved in treating the mentally ill and homeless. I&#039;ve had to set up guardianships and conservatories for two of my relatives. It involves a great deal of legal work. It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of LAW. That&#039;s why it is a government responsibility, and not &quot;socialist&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there are many, many legal issues involved in treating the mentally ill and homeless. I&#8217;ve had to set up guardianships and conservatories for two of my relatives. It involves a great deal of legal work. It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of LAW. That&#8217;s why it is a government responsibility, and not &#8220;socialist&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are severely underestimating the number of homeless people who are not:

1) insane
2) on the run from the law in a serious way
3) alcoholics or drug addicts

Doing what he did becomes exponentially harder when you are any of those three things. My personal experience leads me to believe that the majority of homeless people can&#039;t do what he did, because they have to overcome things that he did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are severely underestimating the number of homeless people who are not:</p>
<p>1) insane<br />
2) on the run from the law in a serious way<br />
3) alcoholics or drug addicts</p>
<p>Doing what he did becomes exponentially harder when you are any of those three things. My personal experience leads me to believe that the majority of homeless people can&#8217;t do what he did, because they have to overcome things that he did not.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless he was mentally ill without treatment, handicapped, or an addict, then he&#039;s proved nothing. 

Life is easy when you&#039;re not mentally or physically impaired or addicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless he was mentally ill without treatment, handicapped, or an addict, then he&#8217;s proved nothing. </p>
<p>Life is easy when you&#8217;re not mentally or physically impaired or addicted.</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
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		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>social mobility in the U.S is at the bottom of the league table of much of the western world (along with here in the U.K) - which is more of a reliable indicator of the &#039;american dream&#039;s&#039; veracity than this wrong headed experiment i should think.
he claims not to have used his education - so, he made himself, for example, deliberately less able to do mental arithmetic, or be less confident, perhaps have a reading age of 10 - basically think differently, have a different mind even? that&#039;s not to say that his adopted peer group are &#039;stupid&#039; - but that many factors are hidden and deep rooted. equally, some may start out disadvantaged but do really well. the point is that this is a simplistic and egocentric experiment.

&quot;I think I was disadvantaged, because my thinking was inside of a box.&quot; - too true. but not in the way he means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>social mobility in the U.S is at the bottom of the league table of much of the western world (along with here in the U.K) &#8211; which is more of a reliable indicator of the &#8216;american dream&#8217;s&#8217; veracity than this wrong headed experiment i should think.<br />
he claims not to have used his education &#8211; so, he made himself, for example, deliberately less able to do mental arithmetic, or be less confident, perhaps have a reading age of 10 &#8211; basically think differently, have a different mind even? that&#8217;s not to say that his adopted peer group are &#8216;stupid&#8217; &#8211; but that many factors are hidden and deep rooted. equally, some may start out disadvantaged but do really well. the point is that this is a simplistic and egocentric experiment.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think I was disadvantaged, because my thinking was inside of a box.&#8221; &#8211; too true. but not in the way he means.</p>
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		<title>By: Blessed Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blessed Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this whole response typed out but erased it because   I doubt anyone would bothering reading the whole thing. Lost story short, his heart was in the right place when this started but his conclusion is naive and simpleminded. It&#039;s nice that he&#039;s trying to explore what life is like for other people and I give him credit for trying to inspire people to try to achieve something better for themselves but it&#039;s a flawed equation with a flawed outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this whole response typed out but erased it because   I doubt anyone would bothering reading the whole thing. Lost story short, his heart was in the right place when this started but his conclusion is naive and simpleminded. It&#8217;s nice that he&#8217;s trying to explore what life is like for other people and I give him credit for trying to inspire people to try to achieve something better for themselves but it&#8217;s a flawed equation with a flawed outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Steohawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steohawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People here keep mentioning that he&#039;s a white male, without any evidence to support the claim that those were factors in his success. That&#039;s racist and sexist!


There&#039;s two ways to help out the homeless.

1. Use your own time and money to help others.
2. Become a politician, commit massive amounts of theft (taxation), give a small fraction of it to welfare, and keep the rest for yourself.

Sadly, #2 is the choice of socialists. Theft is wrong, regardless of the wealth of your victim. Of course, it&#039;s easier for a socialist to steal than to actually EARN money. Meanwhile, plenty of good people get on welfare to help them get back on their feet, but if they try to actually get a job or start a business, they get their welfare revoked before they can earn a dime.

If you want to help the homeless, make lots of money and become a philanthropist. Just make sure the socialists aren&#039;t stealing your money and the corporatists aren&#039;t supporting your rich competitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People here keep mentioning that he&#8217;s a white male, without any evidence to support the claim that those were factors in his success. That&#8217;s racist and sexist!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s two ways to help out the homeless.</p>
<p>1. Use your own time and money to help others.<br />
2. Become a politician, commit massive amounts of theft (taxation), give a small fraction of it to welfare, and keep the rest for yourself.</p>
<p>Sadly, #2 is the choice of socialists. Theft is wrong, regardless of the wealth of your victim. Of course, it&#8217;s easier for a socialist to steal than to actually EARN money. Meanwhile, plenty of good people get on welfare to help them get back on their feet, but if they try to actually get a job or start a business, they get their welfare revoked before they can earn a dime.</p>
<p>If you want to help the homeless, make lots of money and become a philanthropist. Just make sure the socialists aren&#8217;t stealing your money and the corporatists aren&#8217;t supporting your rich competitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider his actions highly unethical.  Non-profit organizations that offer food and shelter to the homeless are not exactly rolling in cash; each meal they give out and each bed they offer is limited and in demand.  He took advantage of social and community services he did not need, and as a result, there _were_ people who needed those services who didn&#039;t get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider his actions highly unethical.  Non-profit organizations that offer food and shelter to the homeless are not exactly rolling in cash; each meal they give out and each bed they offer is limited and in demand.  He took advantage of social and community services he did not need, and as a result, there _were_ people who needed those services who didn&#8217;t get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to make sure I fully understand the grievances most of the comments here reference as well as what could potentially be the solutions to poverty in the United States.

“If you try to ascend from poverty to a life of better means, you must have either have an education or have the government or some other aid program assist you.”

  I have to admit that I don&#039;t fully understand this sentiment.  I will say that I&#039;ve only read the excerpt here and not his book.  However, it says that he made a few friends, and then he acquired work as a day laborer.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s beyond the scope of accomplishment for anyone who&#039;s living in poverty and doesn&#039;t have a mental illness.  If you are cognizant enough to know that your appearance is frightful, you&#039;re cognizant enough to find a way to improve it.

Now, this business of it not being fair because he received aid from the government... that very same aid is right there available to all the other impoverished.  Where there are shelters, you will find people in them.  Where there are food stamps, you will find people receiving them.  No unfair advantage there.

Do I think this gentleman (I don&#039;t refer to people with 4 years of college under their belts as &quot;kids&quot;) has a full understanding of what a life in poverty is after only spending close to a year in diminished conditions?  No. That would be foolish.

I do think he put into practice something I&#039;ve seen happen myself.  I&#039;ve personally witnessed people on the street pull their acts together and get out of poverty.  It can be done and it should be done.  It&#039;s very easy to discredit this gentleman&#039;s research as &quot;just a spoiled kid looking for an exploit to sell a book&quot; or something similar. 

I think it takes a much wiser and braver person to acknowledge the fact that this is only one example of proof among many that exist showing that many impoverished remain that way because they refuse to work to improve themselves beyond their conditions.

In closing, before you berate me with how not all poverty stricken people or families can necessarily do what he did... my response is, obviously not.  It shows to me that every homeless person in America, who doesn&#039;t have a mental illness, should be asking him/herself, &quot;Why am I still here, and what can I do to change it?&quot; 

Anything less is a cry for pity, and pity is not how you move up... especially out of poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to make sure I fully understand the grievances most of the comments here reference as well as what could potentially be the solutions to poverty in the United States.</p>
<p>“If you try to ascend from poverty to a life of better means, you must have either have an education or have the government or some other aid program assist you.”</p>
<p>  I have to admit that I don&#8217;t fully understand this sentiment.  I will say that I&#8217;ve only read the excerpt here and not his book.  However, it says that he made a few friends, and then he acquired work as a day laborer.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s beyond the scope of accomplishment for anyone who&#8217;s living in poverty and doesn&#8217;t have a mental illness.  If you are cognizant enough to know that your appearance is frightful, you&#8217;re cognizant enough to find a way to improve it.</p>
<p>Now, this business of it not being fair because he received aid from the government&#8230; that very same aid is right there available to all the other impoverished.  Where there are shelters, you will find people in them.  Where there are food stamps, you will find people receiving them.  No unfair advantage there.</p>
<p>Do I think this gentleman (I don&#8217;t refer to people with 4 years of college under their belts as &#8220;kids&#8221;) has a full understanding of what a life in poverty is after only spending close to a year in diminished conditions?  No. That would be foolish.</p>
<p>I do think he put into practice something I&#8217;ve seen happen myself.  I&#8217;ve personally witnessed people on the street pull their acts together and get out of poverty.  It can be done and it should be done.  It&#8217;s very easy to discredit this gentleman&#8217;s research as &#8220;just a spoiled kid looking for an exploit to sell a book&#8221; or something similar. </p>
<p>I think it takes a much wiser and braver person to acknowledge the fact that this is only one example of proof among many that exist showing that many impoverished remain that way because they refuse to work to improve themselves beyond their conditions.</p>
<p>In closing, before you berate me with how not all poverty stricken people or families can necessarily do what he did&#8230; my response is, obviously not.  It shows to me that every homeless person in America, who doesn&#8217;t have a mental illness, should be asking him/herself, &#8220;Why am I still here, and what can I do to change it?&#8221; </p>
<p>Anything less is a cry for pity, and pity is not how you move up&#8230; especially out of poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455911</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just remembered George Orwell&#039;s *Down and Out in Paris and London,* a book in which the upper-class Orwell writes about his experiences slumming it. It&#039;s a beautiful nonfiction work - without all that didactic conservative mongering that Adam seems to enjoy.

Also, see Pulp&#039;s (or William Shatner&#039;s) *Common People.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just remembered George Orwell&#8217;s *Down and Out in Paris and London,* a book in which the upper-class Orwell writes about his experiences slumming it. It&#8217;s a beautiful nonfiction work &#8211; without all that didactic conservative mongering that Adam seems to enjoy.</p>
<p>Also, see Pulp&#8217;s (or William Shatner&#8217;s) *Common People.*</p>
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		<title>By: Lemons</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455897</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and after the months of slumming it, he seems to act as if he understands the situation of the lower class *so* much better than they do.

And don&#039;t be so quick to underestimate the power of his education-- not just the bachelor&#039;s, but the fact that he takes for granted things like having excellent English with a mainstream accent, knowledge of how to interview for a job (even if only as a laborer), and so on.  These things aren&#039;t something he can un-learn on command, and with all of the advantages behind him that others have mentioned, he ultimately has a fantastically unrealistic view of poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and after the months of slumming it, he seems to act as if he understands the situation of the lower class *so* much better than they do.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t be so quick to underestimate the power of his education&#8211; not just the bachelor&#8217;s, but the fact that he takes for granted things like having excellent English with a mainstream accent, knowledge of how to interview for a job (even if only as a laborer), and so on.  These things aren&#8217;t something he can un-learn on command, and with all of the advantages behind him that others have mentioned, he ultimately has a fantastically unrealistic view of poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and another thing, cut the guy some slack, at least he&#039;s trying to understand the situation of the lower class instead of sitting around wishing someone would do something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and another thing, cut the guy some slack, at least he&#8217;s trying to understand the situation of the lower class instead of sitting around wishing someone would do something.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, bizaro jeremy, the receipt of a bachelors degree is a one way ticket to riches and a simple life of leisure. Don&#039;t be so naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, bizaro jeremy, the receipt of a bachelors degree is a one way ticket to riches and a simple life of leisure. Don&#8217;t be so naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455840</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin....


Hahahahahahha! Thank you for the best laugh I&#039;ve had all day. &quot;Anything is possible if you persevere!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hahahahahahha! Thank you for the best laugh I&#8217;ve had all day. &#8220;Anything is possible if you persevere!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455839</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two types of people in life: Those who constantly use outside excuses for why they can&#039;t go do anything, and those that believe that anything is possible if you persevere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two types of people in life: Those who constantly use outside excuses for why they can&#8217;t go do anything, and those that believe that anything is possible if you persevere.</p>
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		<title>By: the man</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455825</link>
		<dc:creator>the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIFE BE SO EASY FOR WHITEY!

He didn&#039;t Even live in a city WITH SNOW!!!!???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIFE BE SO EASY FOR WHITEY!</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t Even live in a city WITH SNOW!!!!???</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455798</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Kip didn&#039;t see &quot;Into the Wild&quot; so he could realize how lame his stunt is.

Hopefully raising yourself from poverty through the dint of hard work, a good education, good health and the knowledge of a safety net should help you gain a sense of empathy for those less fortunate. Instead, it seems to be an excuse to indulge in the meanest of Scrooge-like impulses (&quot;Have we no workhouses?&quot;)

Being beaten as a child encourages some people to say, &quot;I will never do that to my child.&quot; Others say, &quot;My parents did it to me and &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; turned out okay.&quot; Similar sweeping prognoses accompany poverty, illness, family size, race, educational deprivation, and the results of natural disaster. For a country that claims to value individualism, we are remarkably certain about how others can live their lives. 

&quot;Kip&quot; (as opposed to Rasheed, Juan, or even plain old Joe) wrote this book because his &quot;peers&quot; feel deprived. Quell fromage! No trip to Goa for Spring break - just boring old Lauderdale! So now Kip has realized that broke people should eat cake when they are hungry. 

Yes, this is how to get out of poverty - write a book about how easy poverty is to escape. Guaranteed lucrative  publishing contract from Regnery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Kip didn&#8217;t see &#8220;Into the Wild&#8221; so he could realize how lame his stunt is.</p>
<p>Hopefully raising yourself from poverty through the dint of hard work, a good education, good health and the knowledge of a safety net should help you gain a sense of empathy for those less fortunate. Instead, it seems to be an excuse to indulge in the meanest of Scrooge-like impulses (&#8220;Have we no workhouses?&#8221;)</p>
<p>Being beaten as a child encourages some people to say, &#8220;I will never do that to my child.&#8221; Others say, &#8220;My parents did it to me and <i>I</i> turned out okay.&#8221; Similar sweeping prognoses accompany poverty, illness, family size, race, educational deprivation, and the results of natural disaster. For a country that claims to value individualism, we are remarkably certain about how others can live their lives. </p>
<p>&#8220;Kip&#8221; (as opposed to Rasheed, Juan, or even plain old Joe) wrote this book because his &#8220;peers&#8221; feel deprived. Quell fromage! No trip to Goa for Spring break &#8211; just boring old Lauderdale! So now Kip has realized that broke people should eat cake when they are hungry. </p>
<p>Yes, this is how to get out of poverty &#8211; write a book about how easy poverty is to escape. Guaranteed lucrative  publishing contract from Regnery.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Ragan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455788</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Ragan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely with the general response of the above posts.  What this kid claims is terribly shortsighted to the point of being offensive.  And what&#039;s really infuriating is you&#039;d probably never be able to convince him that his experiment is not meaningful.  Not really novel, either.   Bourgeois youths have been &quot;walking away&quot; from their birthrights for decades, and many of them actually succeed in building themselves (all the way) up from nothing, again.  Heck, it&#039;s a cliche, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely with the general response of the above posts.  What this kid claims is terribly shortsighted to the point of being offensive.  And what&#8217;s really infuriating is you&#8217;d probably never be able to convince him that his experiment is not meaningful.  Not really novel, either.   Bourgeois youths have been &#8220;walking away&#8221; from their birthrights for decades, and many of them actually succeed in building themselves (all the way) up from nothing, again.  Heck, it&#8217;s a cliche, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Geekazoid</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455757</link>
		<dc:creator>Geekazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurelhel&#039;s post says it all.  It&#039;s all about the book deals and speaking engagements.  Maybe the talk show circuit too when CNN notices.  What&#039;s next, 50,000 dollar speaking fees for corporate leadership meetings?

Yea I&#039;m a cynic at heart but let&#039;s not make this guy out to be some noble saint over what is just another method of people wanting their 15 minutes of fame (and money).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurelhel&#8217;s post says it all.  It&#8217;s all about the book deals and speaking engagements.  Maybe the talk show circuit too when CNN notices.  What&#8217;s next, 50,000 dollar speaking fees for corporate leadership meetings?</p>
<p>Yea I&#8217;m a cynic at heart but let&#8217;s not make this guy out to be some noble saint over what is just another method of people wanting their 15 minutes of fame (and money).</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455746</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really cannot believe anyone would take this boy&#039;s endeavor seriously. 

Too bad he isn&#039;t grinning in that picture; you&#039;d be able to see his straight, sparkling white teeth to go along with the rest of the package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really cannot believe anyone would take this boy&#8217;s endeavor seriously. </p>
<p>Too bad he isn&#8217;t grinning in that picture; you&#8217;d be able to see his straight, sparkling white teeth to go along with the rest of the package.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455736</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, if you&#039;ve listened carefully, you&#039;ll notice that there are some things that demonstrate how this experiment is flawed, such as his having a bachelor&#039;s degree.  Just because he doesn&#039;t tell anybody about it doesn&#039;t mean his education didn&#039;t help him out immensely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, if you&#8217;ve listened carefully, you&#8217;ll notice that there are some things that demonstrate how this experiment is flawed, such as his having a bachelor&#8217;s degree.  Just because he doesn&#8217;t tell anybody about it doesn&#8217;t mean his education didn&#8217;t help him out immensely.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455719</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe how judgemental many of you are. This project of his seems to demonstrate what I have known my whole life, America is the land of oppurtunity, the land of second, third, infinite chances. I LOVE AMERICA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how judgemental many of you are. This project of his seems to demonstrate what I have known my whole life, America is the land of oppurtunity, the land of second, third, infinite chances. I LOVE AMERICA!</p>
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		<title>By: Pol x</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455718</link>
		<dc:creator>Pol x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similarly I as a white Scotsman can eaily test race relations in the US by arrivving in the JFK in full black minstrel face.

This guy brings so much to the situation that will assist him that need not be mentioned.

His accent will be educated white upper/middle class from Raleigh North cArolina. That alone will help.

he&#039;s a presentable WHUITE guy, with a preppy haircut and absolutely no history in the circles in which he moves.

And most importantly of all, he can step away back into the luxury of his Mum and Dad&#039;s house at a MOMENTS NOTICE.

The real story is that if you are homeless, or even just piss poor, there is no magic ejector seat.

The real story isn;&#039;t the existance of the american dream but the stark reality of the death of hope.

But gosh he&#039;ll dine out on how great he is and how crap the poor are,and doubly so when he inevitably tries his hand at politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similarly I as a white Scotsman can eaily test race relations in the US by arrivving in the JFK in full black minstrel face.</p>
<p>This guy brings so much to the situation that will assist him that need not be mentioned.</p>
<p>His accent will be educated white upper/middle class from Raleigh North cArolina. That alone will help.</p>
<p>he&#8217;s a presentable WHUITE guy, with a preppy haircut and absolutely no history in the circles in which he moves.</p>
<p>And most importantly of all, he can step away back into the luxury of his Mum and Dad&#8217;s house at a MOMENTS NOTICE.</p>
<p>The real story is that if you are homeless, or even just piss poor, there is no magic ejector seat.</p>
<p>The real story isn;&#8217;t the existance of the american dream but the stark reality of the death of hope.</p>
<p>But gosh he&#8217;ll dine out on how great he is and how crap the poor are,and doubly so when he inevitably tries his hand at politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455683</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there are a lot of very poor people out there who do have mental illnesses and other problems holding them back.  That is very true!  MOST homeless people seem to suffering from mental illness, in my experience (I&#039;ve worked with the homeless for about five years now).

BUT any able-bodied person should be able to pull themselves up from abject poverty.  Black, white, male, female, whatever.  I did it myself and I have seen many others do the same.  One thing that is so misunderstood by some &quot;crusaders for poverty&quot; is that long-term poverty is NOT the norm.  Most people are only below the poverty line for a short period of time unless there are extenuating circumstances of some sort (or there are a very few people really do choose poverty), so any able-bodied person or family with at least one able-bodied adult should be able to make it out.  That&#039;s what government assistance is for... to help people through temporary rough patches until they can get back on their feet again.  

I have seen several &quot;social experiments&quot; done by people who started out upper class, and I have to say that those people are by and large a bunch of naive idiots.    So many have an agenda going in and almost seem to sabotage the whole affair.  One couple went into their experiment without cash and bought a bunch of furniture on credit, went to the doctor several times for stuff like a little cold (poor people don&#039;t do that), ate out every day, and didn&#039;t even rent the cheapest apartment they could find (they said this was due to safety, but if you are living in abject poverty, you should primarily be looking for a roof over your head).  Those things seem minor, but can add up to hundreds of dollars very quickly.  You don&#039;t &quot;need&quot; a couch, or even a table for that matter, especially when you are struggling to eat. They did so many things wrong... of course it failed.  Nickel and Dimed was a ridiculous book; the author seemed to intentionally get herself fired, at one point complaining about how oh-so-terrible it was to be fired for being late constantly and smoking pot.  

So of course it&#039;s impossible for some people... people who have debilitating mental illnesses or handicaps.  But as someone who has honestly lived through it, I will forever believe that it is entirely possible for anyone of normal intelligence and aptitude.  And, of course, just a little bit of common sense to save money and stretch a dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are a lot of very poor people out there who do have mental illnesses and other problems holding them back.  That is very true!  MOST homeless people seem to suffering from mental illness, in my experience (I&#8217;ve worked with the homeless for about five years now).</p>
<p>BUT any able-bodied person should be able to pull themselves up from abject poverty.  Black, white, male, female, whatever.  I did it myself and I have seen many others do the same.  One thing that is so misunderstood by some &#8220;crusaders for poverty&#8221; is that long-term poverty is NOT the norm.  Most people are only below the poverty line for a short period of time unless there are extenuating circumstances of some sort (or there are a very few people really do choose poverty), so any able-bodied person or family with at least one able-bodied adult should be able to make it out.  That&#8217;s what government assistance is for&#8230; to help people through temporary rough patches until they can get back on their feet again.  </p>
<p>I have seen several &#8220;social experiments&#8221; done by people who started out upper class, and I have to say that those people are by and large a bunch of naive idiots.    So many have an agenda going in and almost seem to sabotage the whole affair.  One couple went into their experiment without cash and bought a bunch of furniture on credit, went to the doctor several times for stuff like a little cold (poor people don&#8217;t do that), ate out every day, and didn&#8217;t even rent the cheapest apartment they could find (they said this was due to safety, but if you are living in abject poverty, you should primarily be looking for a roof over your head).  Those things seem minor, but can add up to hundreds of dollars very quickly.  You don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; a couch, or even a table for that matter, especially when you are struggling to eat. They did so many things wrong&#8230; of course it failed.  Nickel and Dimed was a ridiculous book; the author seemed to intentionally get herself fired, at one point complaining about how oh-so-terrible it was to be fired for being late constantly and smoking pot.  </p>
<p>So of course it&#8217;s impossible for some people&#8230; people who have debilitating mental illnesses or handicaps.  But as someone who has honestly lived through it, I will forever believe that it is entirely possible for anyone of normal intelligence and aptitude.  And, of course, just a little bit of common sense to save money and stretch a dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: K!P</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455674</link>
		<dc:creator>K!P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lauredhel.

ah sorry, missed that..early morning.

well..than, not so nice. education helps big time, still attidude is also important!</description>
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<p>ah sorry, missed that..early morning.</p>
<p>well..than, not so nice. education helps big time, still attidude is also important!</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Cellania</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455661</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Cellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad every poor person can&#039;t bail out when a family member gets sick.</description>
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		<title>By: thegiantsnail</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455621</link>
		<dc:creator>thegiantsnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try again, this time without using literacy.</description>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455619</link>
		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K!P, from the introduction to his book:

 &quot;I am really, really frustrated with the poor attitudes that seem to have swept over my peer group. Frustrated with hearing “I don’t have” rather than “Let’s see what I can do with what I do have.” So, I have decided to demonstrate that it doesn&#039;t have to be that way.&quot;

and

&quot;my story is a rebuttal to Barbara Ehrenreich&#039;s Nickel and Dimed and Bait and Switch&quot;

He has published a book, and is now touting for speaking engagements. 

His speaking-engagements page includes sidebar soundbites like

&quot;Why he is prepared to stand by his proclamation that opportunity exists for everyone.&quot;

and

&quot;Why the book Nickel and Dimed was flawed from the beginning.&quot;

and

&quot;Why raising the minimum wage does not stimulate the economy of the lower class.&quot;

and

&quot;Why he succeeded, while many people make the decision to steer clear of the opportunities in front of them.&quot;

How is that about proving something quietly to himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K!P, from the introduction to his book:</p>
<p> &#8220;I am really, really frustrated with the poor attitudes that seem to have swept over my peer group. Frustrated with hearing “I don’t have” rather than “Let’s see what I can do with what I do have.” So, I have decided to demonstrate that it doesn&#8217;t have to be that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;my story is a rebuttal to Barbara Ehrenreich&#8217;s Nickel and Dimed and Bait and Switch&#8221;</p>
<p>He has published a book, and is now touting for speaking engagements. </p>
<p>His speaking-engagements page includes sidebar soundbites like</p>
<p>&#8220;Why he is prepared to stand by his proclamation that opportunity exists for everyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;Why the book Nickel and Dimed was flawed from the beginning.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;Why raising the minimum wage does not stimulate the economy of the lower class.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;Why he succeeded, while many people make the decision to steer clear of the opportunities in front of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>How is that about proving something quietly to himself?</p>
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		<title>By: K!P</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455586</link>
		<dc:creator>K!P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why all the negativity, he din&#039;t do it to prove something for us, he jsut wanted to see if HE could. not annyone. HE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why all the negativity, he din&#8217;t do it to prove something for us, he jsut wanted to see if HE could. not annyone. HE.</p>
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		<title>By: bun</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455582</link>
		<dc:creator>bun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How precious. I&#039;m going to guess he didn&#039;t have to contend with a trauma history or addictive genealogy, either. 

With any luck, he&#039;ll soon be pontificating on how everyone could have x-ray vision and a pet unicorn if they just applied themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How precious. I&#8217;m going to guess he didn&#8217;t have to contend with a trauma history or addictive genealogy, either. </p>
<p>With any luck, he&#8217;ll soon be pontificating on how everyone could have x-ray vision and a pet unicorn if they just applied themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455534</link>
		<dc:creator>Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Step 1: Be white.

Sorry it had to be said. This whole &#039;you can have anything if you simply work for it&#039; has been a huge myth in our society that works for certain few. It&#039;s also been tested by many others in numerous ways, e.g. Morgan Spurlock. He and his partner lived in Ohio on minimum wage for his series &#039;30 Days&#039;..it was a horrible 30 days. I will say that these experiments are good at getting your name mentioned. If he gets a book or movie deal he will be a success but I doubt his experience will have anything interesting to reveal. There are countless homeless out there perfectly capable of labor whose stories are plenty and rarely ever told..and when they are they&#039;re horrific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step 1: Be white.</p>
<p>Sorry it had to be said. This whole &#8216;you can have anything if you simply work for it&#8217; has been a huge myth in our society that works for certain few. It&#8217;s also been tested by many others in numerous ways, e.g. Morgan Spurlock. He and his partner lived in Ohio on minimum wage for his series &#8217;30 Days&#8217;..it was a horrible 30 days. I will say that these experiments are good at getting your name mentioned. If he gets a book or movie deal he will be a success but I doubt his experience will have anything interesting to reveal. There are countless homeless out there perfectly capable of labor whose stories are plenty and rarely ever told..and when they are they&#8217;re horrific.</p>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455527</link>
		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So - young educated English-speaking able-bodied white male citizen with no mental illness, no kids to look after, no debt, and a credit card in his back pocket manages to keep his head above water for a few months, with the help of a whole lot of government and/or charity assistance?

And then bails out when somebody gets sick, and calls himself a &quot;success&quot;?

And now he knows all about what it&#039;s like to actually be poor, with no escape hatch, none of his demographic advantages, carer responsibilities, and thousands of dollars worth of medical bills? 

Now he turns around and claims that anyone could do it, and that they&#039;re all just making excuses?

I hope he is pumping a good proportion of his book earnings back into the homeless shelter and food programmes that he took up unnecessarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; young educated English-speaking able-bodied white male citizen with no mental illness, no kids to look after, no debt, and a credit card in his back pocket manages to keep his head above water for a few months, with the help of a whole lot of government and/or charity assistance?</p>
<p>And then bails out when somebody gets sick, and calls himself a &#8220;success&#8221;?</p>
<p>And now he knows all about what it&#8217;s like to actually be poor, with no escape hatch, none of his demographic advantages, carer responsibilities, and thousands of dollars worth of medical bills? </p>
<p>Now he turns around and claims that anyone could do it, and that they&#8217;re all just making excuses?</p>
<p>I hope he is pumping a good proportion of his book earnings back into the homeless shelter and food programmes that he took up unnecessarily.</p>
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		<title>By: Geekazoid</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/22/testing-the-american-dream-the-homeless-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-455504</link>
		<dc:creator>Geekazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright when&#039;s his book coming out?  Looks like &#039;social experiments&#039; are the new way to achieve fame and stardom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright when&#8217;s his book coming out?  Looks like &#8216;social experiments&#8217; are the new way to achieve fame and stardom.</p>
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