Comments on: Jeongmee Yoon’s Pink and Blue Project http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:33:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Ken http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-460519 Ken Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:44:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-460519 I don't think it's really cross-cultural. I wonder if cultures that aren't exposed to a dominant American culture have similar selections. I don’t think it’s really cross-cultural. I wonder if cultures that aren’t exposed to a dominant American culture have similar selections.

]]> By: king20878 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434930 king20878 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:13:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434930 TwoDragons, that's fantastic. :) I'm curious, Modeling clay? Bubblegum? Sillyputty? TwoDragons, that’s fantastic. :)
I’m curious, Modeling clay? Bubblegum? Sillyputty?

]]> By: marieissah http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434669 marieissah Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:03:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434669 Oh my! Oh my!

]]> By: Denita TwoDragons http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434358 Denita TwoDragons Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:32:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434358 I hated pink as a baby, and I still don't care much for it. Most of my stuff ran to either blue or green, and still does. And while I played with dolls, well...I also tended to "correct" their lack of appropriate anatomy. In proper proportion. With full 3-D shading. And matching, um, carpet. (Reading Grey's Anatomy and medical textbooks at age 6 will do that to ya... :-) ) --TwoDragons I hated pink as a baby, and I still don’t care much for it. Most of my stuff ran to either blue or green, and still does. And while I played with dolls, well…I also tended to “correct” their lack of appropriate anatomy.

In proper proportion.

With full 3-D shading.

And matching, um, carpet.

(Reading Grey’s Anatomy and medical textbooks at age 6 will do that to ya… :-) )

–TwoDragons

]]> By: Skipweasel http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434225 Skipweasel Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:01:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-434225 The good news is they do grow out of it. Unless they're Barbara Cartland, of course, for whom the phrase "Cruelty without Beauty" was coined. The good news is they do grow out of it. Unless they’re Barbara Cartland, of course, for whom the phrase “Cruelty without Beauty” was coined.

]]> By: king20878 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433954 king20878 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:18:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433954 Yes it does have an "effect" on them, but for Pete's sake, if the kid needs sneakers and pink sneakers will make them happy, buy the pink sneakers. You can lecture them on gender equality and stereotypes when they are old enough to understand. They can wear pink, Hello Kitty earmuffs and still grow up to be president. Yes it does have an “effect” on them, but for Pete’s sake, if the kid needs sneakers and pink sneakers will make them happy, buy the pink sneakers. You can lecture them on gender equality and stereotypes when they are old enough to understand. They can wear pink, Hello Kitty earmuffs and still grow up to be president.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433658 Sid Morrison Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:02:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433658 Von Skippy is da man. Thank you! Von Skippy is da man. Thank you!

]]> By: NeuroGirl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433160 NeuroGirl Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:37:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433160 What we surround children with has a huge affect on their adult interests. Surrounding your children in gender-specific materialism strikes me as a potentially handicapping behavior. My favorite childhood "toy" was Elle - a full-size skeletal model that I still have. It's been creeping my friends out since I was six. What we surround children with has a huge affect on their adult interests. Surrounding your children in gender-specific materialism strikes me as a potentially handicapping behavior.

My favorite childhood “toy” was Elle - a full-size skeletal model that I still have. It’s been creeping my friends out since I was six.

]]> By: su.wei http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433112 su.wei Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:14:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433112 interesting. most articles ive read on the subject say that it's a social thing... interesting. most articles ive read on the subject say that it’s a social thing…

]]> By: Jane http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433098 Jane Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:44:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433098 NeuroGirl, as much as the above is rather disgusting, I suspect the lack of educational toys is due to the fact that many of them are not predominately pink or blue, and therefore would not match the rest of the objects in the room. I still have many of my mostly gender-neutral/educational (and perhaps stereotypically male, because they're rather geeky/scientific) toys, and I often go shopping for toys for friends' kids, and they are always everything but pink or blue. NeuroGirl, as much as the above is rather disgusting, I suspect the lack of educational toys is due to the fact that many of them are not predominately pink or blue, and therefore would not match the rest of the objects in the room.

I still have many of my mostly gender-neutral/educational (and perhaps stereotypically male, because they’re rather geeky/scientific) toys, and I often go shopping for toys for friends’ kids, and they are always everything but pink or blue.

]]> By: NeuroGirl http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433082 NeuroGirl Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:24:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-433082 Nice to see parents fighting gender stereotypes... I can't find a single educational toy in either of those pictures Nice to see parents fighting gender stereotypes… I can’t find a single educational toy in either of those pictures

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432880 ted Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:36:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432880 Nice to see an example of over-the-top materialism that isn't North American, for a change. Nice to see an example of over-the-top materialism that isn’t North American, for a change.

]]> By: donna http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432693 donna Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:15:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432693 Note to parents: You don't actually have to indulge your children's obsessions. Really. Note to parents:

You don’t actually have to indulge your children’s obsessions.

Really.

]]> By: VonSkippy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432680 VonSkippy Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:52:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432680 Remember - Google is your friend: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733 Remember - Google is your friend:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432652 Sid Morrison Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/jeongmee-yoons-pink-and-blue-project/#comment-432652 The interesting thing is that (apparently) these color-based stereotype are really fairly modern. I've read that if you go back prior to a hundred years or so ago (I'll need to do some digging for the references...), you'll find that little girls' clothes & rooms tended to be blue and little boys' were more likely pink. It had something to do with pink being a red variant and red = heat = fire in the kid's demeanor, &c. Conversely, blue was cool and sedate and calm, just like little princess. Anybody have a reference to back this up? It's been some time since I last stumbled across it... The interesting thing is that (apparently) these color-based stereotype are really fairly modern. I’ve read that if you go back prior to a hundred years or so ago (I’ll need to do some digging for the references…), you’ll find that little girls’ clothes & rooms tended to be blue and little boys’ were more likely pink. It had something to do with pink being a red variant and red = heat = fire in the kid’s demeanor, &c. Conversely, blue was cool and sedate and calm, just like little princess.

Anybody have a reference to back this up? It’s been some time since I last stumbled across it…

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