Comments on: Death in Church Couldn’t Stop Mass http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/ The Neat Side of the Web Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:03:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jerry http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-443250 Jerry Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:19:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-443250 If the other people were fine with it, leave them be. Hey NiteWhite, get off your high horse, arrogant bastard. If the other people were fine with it, leave them be.

Hey NiteWhite, get off your high horse, arrogant bastard.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-425609 ted Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:58:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-425609 Kind of a prolonged last rites. Of course, some folks take the opportunity to grind their axes here. I wonder how many people were really paying attention to the mass by that point. Kind of a prolonged last rites.
Of course, some folks take the opportunity to grind their axes here.

I wonder how many people were really paying attention to the mass by that point.

]]> By: priscilla http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-424922 priscilla Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:46:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-424922 Im not too religious but I see how this is OK. They called the ambulance and prayed for the man who had died. To me that seems very respectful. They might not be physically moving the man but they are... I guess mentally... helping him in the best and only way they could have. As Fazia said...they're not at a rock concert. Theyre at church where the body probably would have ended up at a later time for the same kind of prayer. Im not too religious but I see how this is OK. They called the ambulance and prayed for the man who had died. To me that seems very respectful. They might not be physically moving the man but they are… I guess mentally… helping him in the best and only way they could have. As Fazia said…they’re not at a rock concert. Theyre at church where the body probably would have ended up at a later time for the same kind of prayer.

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-424780 Christophe Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:48:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-424780 Wow. Dying during the Mass. Straight line to heaven I guess. Wow. Dying during the Mass. Straight line to heaven I guess.

]]> By: skreidle http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-424501 skreidle Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:38:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-424501 Fazia: Yes, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. :) http://www.venganza.org/ Fazia: Yes, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. :) http://www.venganza.org/

]]> By: biltmore http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423892 biltmore Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:52:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423892 Ahhh, the joys of religion in a modern society. Ahhh, the joys of religion in a modern society.

]]> By: Fazia http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423869 Fazia Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:44:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423869 The Flying Spaghetti Monster??? The Flying Spaghetti Monster???

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423863 Sid Morrison Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:42:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423863 @NiteWhite- FYI. The "old woman" was a man. If the name Pio (not "Pia") wasn't a tip, the article (which you read, right) called him "Mr." a whole bunch of times. @NiteWhite-

FYI. The “old woman” was a man. If the name Pio (not “Pia”) wasn’t a tip, the article (which you read, right) called him “Mr.” a whole bunch of times.

]]> By: NiteWhite http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423809 NiteWhite Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:15:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423809 Fazia, I worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so I am not against religion. Regardless if they are praying, playing bingo, or roasting smores, if someone dies in the immediate vicinity, they should leave out of respect for the dead. There doesn't have to be excrement for you to understand my point - though it certainly highlights a possible scenario. Fazia, I worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so I am not against religion.

Regardless if they are praying, playing bingo, or roasting smores, if someone dies in the immediate vicinity, they should leave out of respect for the dead. There doesn’t have to be excrement for you to understand my point - though it certainly highlights a possible scenario.

]]> By: Fazia http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423743 Fazia Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:06:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423743 NiteWhite, not all dead bodies expel urine or feces. You can't just assume that it occurred in this instance and that they continued to worship around that. Doesn't it make more sense to believe that it didn't? Or are you so determined to point a finger merely because religion is involved? NiteWhite, not all dead bodies expel urine or feces. You can’t just assume that it occurred in this instance and that they continued to worship around that. Doesn’t it make more sense to believe that it didn’t? Or are you so determined to point a finger merely because religion is involved?

]]> By: NiteWhite http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423712 NiteWhite Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:38:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423712 They should've sent everyone home to give the old woman her privacy. If it had been you (FSM forbid!), and you happened to be full of urine and feces, which properly emptied onto the floor posthumously, would you like everyone around you to witness/smell that? Where is the dignity in that? Just because it's religion doesn't mean everyone should understand it's reasoning behind the disrespectful act. It's just like when religious zealots scream to the high heavens when science supports their mythology, but if when it doesn't they cry and whine that religion must be respected! Oh, the hypocrisy. They should’ve sent everyone home to give the old woman her privacy. If it had been you (FSM forbid!), and you happened to be full of urine and feces, which properly emptied onto the floor posthumously, would you like everyone around you to witness/smell that? Where is the dignity in that?

Just because it’s religion doesn’t mean everyone should understand it’s reasoning behind the disrespectful act. It’s just like when religious zealots scream to the high heavens when science supports their mythology, but if when it doesn’t they cry and whine that religion must be respected! Oh, the hypocrisy.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423690 Sid Morrison Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:56:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423690 @Tim- Did you read the article or even the short blurb? 1. The ambulance crew was called. 2. They declared the guy dead. (apparently they had authority to do so -- in the US, you need a doctor I think) 3. Apparently the local law is that once the guy is declared dead, the ambulance crew cannot legally move them w/o the local magistrate arriving. He wasn't there, so they couldn't move him. 4. Life went on for the living as they prayed for the departed and they waited for the magistrate to OK moving the body. 5. The dead guy's son thought his father (a devoted Catholic & faithful Mass attender) would have wanted it that way and had no problems with the way things went down. So, what's the big deal? @Tim-
Did you read the article or even the short blurb?
1. The ambulance crew was called.
2. They declared the guy dead. (apparently they had authority to do so — in the US, you need a doctor I think)
3. Apparently the local law is that once the guy is declared dead, the ambulance crew cannot legally move them w/o the local magistrate arriving. He wasn’t there, so they couldn’t move him.
4. Life went on for the living as they prayed for the departed and they waited for the magistrate to OK moving the body.
5. The dead guy’s son thought his father (a devoted Catholic & faithful Mass attender) would have wanted it that way and had no problems with the way things went down. So, what’s the big deal?

]]> By: Fazia http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423659 Fazia Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:00:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423659 Tim, it's not the religion preventing the ambulance crew from removing the corpse. It's Italian law. They can't move it until the magistrate gives the okay. As for continuing Mass, it's not like it was a concert. They were praying. It seems insensitive, like they're ignoring the deceased, but they're praying. There's nothing better they could've done. Tim, it’s not the religion preventing the ambulance crew from removing the corpse. It’s Italian law. They can’t move it until the magistrate gives the okay.

As for continuing Mass, it’s not like it was a concert. They were praying. It seems insensitive, like they’re ignoring the deceased, but they’re praying. There’s nothing better they could’ve done.

]]> By: Tim http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423621 Tim Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:43:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423621 Mass or not I think common decency would permit that the ambulance crew could remove the corpse from the church and deal with it appropriately. Man some religions are bizaar... Mass or not I think common decency would permit that the ambulance crew could remove the corpse from the church and deal with it appropriately.

Man some religions are bizaar…

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423578 Sid Morrison Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:07:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423578 Well the Mass is a prayer itself, so it makes sense that it would continue with the participants keeping the deceased's soul in their minds as they are waiting for the local magistrate to arrive (per teh law apparently). I've been in a Mass when an older person collapsed in unconsciousness. An EMT person happened to be there, so he contacted the local ambulance squad and administered to the victim himself, whilst everyone else continued praying and the Mass went on. The ambulance crew came in and got the guy out and to the hospital unimpeded within minutes, but the Mass continued on throughout. At some point the priest interjected some words asking everyone to pray for so & so's recovery as well. What else are you going to do... send everyone home to watch football? It's prayer ... you continue praying and remember the sick/deceased person in those prayers. Well the Mass is a prayer itself, so it makes sense that it would continue with the participants keeping the deceased’s soul in their minds as they are waiting for the local magistrate to arrive (per teh law apparently).

I’ve been in a Mass when an older person collapsed in unconsciousness. An EMT person happened to be there, so he contacted the local ambulance squad and administered to the victim himself, whilst everyone else continued praying and the Mass went on. The ambulance crew came in and got the guy out and to the hospital unimpeded within minutes, but the Mass continued on throughout. At some point the priest interjected some words asking everyone to pray for so & so’s recovery as well. What else are you going to do… send everyone home to watch football? It’s prayer … you continue praying and remember the sick/deceased person in those prayers.

]]> By: James http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423504 James Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:31:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/30/death-in-church-couldnt-stop-mass/#comment-423504 Couldn't God just have beamed him outside? Couldn’t God just have beamed him outside?

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