This understanding culminates with the arrival of His son in spirit and flesh. He teaches us what is needed to be taught. Although many will disagree, the Old Testament is simply man’s words. As man is flawed, so may be the stories incorporated with it. It took the words of Jesus Christ to fully grasp the true meaning of the “CHRISTian” doctrine.

I believe we can read stories from the Old Testament as a reference to those who truly believed in God. Whether or not I believe that God let Satan get the best of him and attack his follower Job (which I don’t believe the true benevolent God would do), I believe that Job was a good man. Whether or not ancient scribes got the story right should not matter now. The fact that this man was willing to do whatever is needed to stay in faith is all that SHOULD matter.

If I truly believe in Jesus Christ and his words, then I must read his Sermon on the Mount in which (in referral to the days of the Old Testament) he repeats “you heard it used to be said.” The Old Testament should not be compared to the words of Jesus Christ himself. Why would you believe someone over the Son of God?

Trust Jesus and his Sermon on the Mount. Your relationship with Christ is unique. You don’t have to trust another’s relationship with Christ, as long as you trust yours. (I know this is way too long for a message board, but the next time someone wants to attack the Christian faith: understand that a true Christian does not have to believe in fire, brimstone, and the hatred of all mankind to be happy and live with faith.

SHAME ON YOU REVEREND FRED PHELPS AND YOUR STUPID CHURCH

As for the issue of homosexuality: Am I for it? No. Do I judge those that are? No. It is not my place. Being gay does not change the fact that they are STILL HUMAN. They have every right to choose what they want to do with their life. I wonder if the WBC would think that I deserve to die because I have gay friends, or, even worse, that I lie down with a man who has once laid down with other men. God and The Bible do not teach us to hate. God and The Bible do not teach us to judge or go out and kill others who stray from what we think is righteous and holy. The Bible teaches us to love. The Bible teaches tolerance.

Life’s too short to waste time on things that don’t exist.

God doesn’t exist.

We exist.

An ism is an ism is an ism… say that out loud a few times; it sounds really cool.

It wasn’t your ire I was objecting to. It was your self-righteous arrogance — which puts you in the same camp as everyone else out their touting their belief systems over others (and don’t kid yourself: atheism IS a belief system).

I’m sorry if you read exasperation as arrogant prosletising.

I was raised catholic and grew to loathe Christianity in all it’s forms as a death cult determined to leach the joy out of life.

If my ire at people who decide,with divine accord, that others should die because of what they do in the sack is too annoying for you I suggest you adjust your criteia.

to unknown: why is it a sin to be gay? no words can really capture how offensive you are. i don’t understand how you can describe something that is completely natural as wrong.

Being gay- none of your concern. Honestly I still cant figure out why people care. Who do gay people hurt? What is so horrible that they do that other human beings dont? Have sex, have lives? If it’s a religious thing, the rest of society is not under the umbrella of your religious beleifs (which are opinions- not facts). If it’s a science thing- there are plenty of cases where same sex animals do the humpty hump in nature. And we are certainely not on the verge of being an underpopulated planet- so just because Jill and Jill cant make a baby without Jack, doesn’t equal the end of the human race. Get over it.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

“But the tongue can NO man tame..it is a unruly evil full of deadly poison”
and
“It is not what goes into a man that defiles him….but what comes out” and also
any man among you seem to be religious, and bridles not his tongue….that mans religion is in vain”

Holy Valhalla! There really are alot of Christian apologists on this site. To each their own, I always say.

To each their own.

What if we were to go to their house or pickets with signs saying “God hates the Westboro Baptist Church Members”… I think that would be hilarious.

In other words, they’re getting exactly what they want: people hating them. That’s why they target the high-profile stuff. Were everyone to simply ignore them, they’d get very, very frustrated.

Why would you assume I’m Christian? I’m just someone with a strong distaste for arrogant proselytizing, yours included.

O.o

nor it does.

But best be on the safe side.

Death to seafood eating gay sunday workers.

Man it’s a bad week to be a gay Sushi chef this sunday.

That wasn’t very Christian of you now was it?

sparge.

Your point seems poorly formed.

Are you saying I have to believe everything, or was it an attempt at sarcasm?

If you are a Christian, then are you saying you don’t have to believe the LIVING WORD OF THE LORD?

If so that seems a bit Un Christian of you no?

Your god says in his No1 best seller that all Gays must die.

So if you are a X’ian, how do you cork screw your brain around to get any other message?

Ah but hey that’ll be me and my crazy ol’ narcissism again.

Not that this makes them any less despicable.

I’m an atheist and deplore the revisionist clap trap of the supposed “real Christians”.

If it’s the word of your God, then who the hell are you to second guess it?

See either go with the full crazy desert death cult or don’t but you don’t get to cherry pick the nice bits and deny the less appealling sections.

Ah the grand thing it is to be a rational atheist.

I don’t need an imaginary friend on a cloud to tell me how to behave, and I don’t need to use double think to get me out of the moral bind this subject presents.

Since most of them are lawyers, they are sue happy. They have said that even though they know they’re getting bad press, they’re happy because they can say whatever they want once they’re on tv to further their agenda.

Phelps actually has stopped attending most of these activities, my theory is that he’s afraid someone will kill him. However, he doesn’t see anything wrong with sending small children to scream hateful slurs at people he deems “going to hell.”

Please believe me when I say, people in Kansas wish the ground would open up and swallow this ass.

Also, they consider themselves a Baptist church. I grew up a Baptist, and it pains me to think that this might be the way the general public views that particular faith…

In reality though, they are not associated in any way with any of the Baptist church organizations in the country.