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	<title>Comments on: Mass Effects: Game for the (Se)X-Box?</title>
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		<title>By: MoonCake</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-419847</link>
		<dc:creator>MoonCake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn i hate fox news... anyone see the &quot;fox attacks&quot; documentary?  it&#039;s exellent.

&#039;mass effect&#039; is for mature audiences, no?  i mean, it IS a first-person shooter, and the intricacies of the plot are probably a little more complicated then your average super mario bros... so why are people surprised that there is sex in it?  the only thing it&#039;s missing is alcoholic beverages and prostitutes!  but wait-- the GTA series and the Sims, even, have covered those.  but wait-- it objectifies women!  well, what about &#039;portal&#039; from the orange box series?  that one is about a woman trapped in an experimental maze in which the experimentor tries to kill her once her tasks have been fulfilled...  why wasn&#039;t that one targeted?  

here&#039;s the point: video games are just that.  GAMES.  they depict war scenes, criminal activity, crude violence, nudity, sword fights, and lots of death.  but you know what they also entail?  pure entertainment.  we do in games what we shouldn&#039;t do in real life.  plus, if &quot;researchers&quot; are scared these activities depicted in games will &quot;cause&quot; kids to copy the actions, they&#039;re wrong.  kids do bad things and get the wrong idea from bad parenting.  if kids can&#039;t distinguish between &quot;make-believe&quot; and reality, it&#039;s the fault of the person who taught them what reality is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn i hate fox news&#8230; anyone see the &#8220;fox attacks&#8221; documentary?  it&#8217;s exellent.</p>
<p>&#8216;mass effect&#8217; is for mature audiences, no?  i mean, it IS a first-person shooter, and the intricacies of the plot are probably a little more complicated then your average super mario bros&#8230; so why are people surprised that there is sex in it?  the only thing it&#8217;s missing is alcoholic beverages and prostitutes!  but wait&#8211; the GTA series and the Sims, even, have covered those.  but wait&#8211; it objectifies women!  well, what about &#8216;portal&#8217; from the orange box series?  that one is about a woman trapped in an experimental maze in which the experimentor tries to kill her once her tasks have been fulfilled&#8230;  why wasn&#8217;t that one targeted?  </p>
<p>here&#8217;s the point: video games are just that.  GAMES.  they depict war scenes, criminal activity, crude violence, nudity, sword fights, and lots of death.  but you know what they also entail?  pure entertainment.  we do in games what we shouldn&#8217;t do in real life.  plus, if &#8220;researchers&#8221; are scared these activities depicted in games will &#8220;cause&#8221; kids to copy the actions, they&#8217;re wrong.  kids do bad things and get the wrong idea from bad parenting.  if kids can&#8217;t distinguish between &#8220;make-believe&#8221; and reality, it&#8217;s the fault of the person who taught them what reality is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-417709</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News bulletin:

Women are objects. Men are objects. Sculptures are objects. Puppies are objects. There are times when it&#039;s simply pleasant to run your hands over an object, or just look at it, or... etc. It&#039;s fun to be an object sometimes. Trust me on this.

A little self-confidence and you, too, can enjoy the many roles we naturally play in day to day life, relationships, flirting, working, etc.

Or, you can indulge in political correctness, the endemic disease of the lame. Consequently, life will suck for you just that little bit more, and the rest of us will have to listen to you whine about it. sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News bulletin:</p>
<p>Women are objects. Men are objects. Sculptures are objects. Puppies are objects. There are times when it&#8217;s simply pleasant to run your hands over an object, or just look at it, or&#8230; etc. It&#8217;s fun to be an object sometimes. Trust me on this.</p>
<p>A little self-confidence and you, too, can enjoy the many roles we naturally play in day to day life, relationships, flirting, working, etc.</p>
<p>Or, you can indulge in political correctness, the endemic disease of the lame. Consequently, life will suck for you just that little bit more, and the rest of us will have to listen to you whine about it. sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: biltmore</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-416834</link>
		<dc:creator>biltmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an update to the story :

http://kotaku.com/349296/ea-vs-fox-lawrence-recants-mass-effect-judgement

She doesn&#039;t apologize at all, just says that she regrets making those comments about the sexism &amp; such. If you ask me, she made a statement so people would quit trashing her books because all those negative reviews won&#039;t result in sales for her. Her statement to the New York Times was short, and she really didn&#039;t apologize for anything ... she&#039;s not really admitting fault with herself and her ways of researching. I see no &quot;I&#039;m sorry, I should&#039;ve done my research before going on National TV and making an ass out of myself&quot;. She&#039;s just as pathetic now as she was before the NYT statement.

I&#039;m all about forgiving people, if they say they&#039;re sorry. Clearly, she did not apologize for anything. She just &quot;regrets&quot; saying those stupid things ... but she&#039;s not sorry for her crappy research skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update to the story :</p>
<p><a href="http://kotaku.com/349296/ea-vs-fox-lawrence-recants-mass-effect-judgement" rel="nofollow">http://kotaku.com/349296/ea-vs-fox-lawrence-recants-mass-effect-judgem ent</a></p>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t apologize at all, just says that she regrets making those comments about the sexism &amp; such. If you ask me, she made a statement so people would quit trashing her books because all those negative reviews won&#8217;t result in sales for her. Her statement to the New York Times was short, and she really didn&#8217;t apologize for anything &#8230; she&#8217;s not really admitting fault with herself and her ways of researching. I see no &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, I should&#8217;ve done my research before going on National TV and making an ass out of myself&#8221;. She&#8217;s just as pathetic now as she was before the NYT statement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all about forgiving people, if they say they&#8217;re sorry. Clearly, she did not apologize for anything. She just &#8220;regrets&#8221; saying those stupid things &#8230; but she&#8217;s not sorry for her crappy research skills.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-416697</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, Xenu loves you. Accept the fact, and get over it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, Xenu loves you. Accept the fact, and get over it already.</p>
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		<title>By: Orjans Morjan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-416686</link>
		<dc:creator>Orjans Morjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t take this out on psychologists and psychology!!!
They are needed and save lives when!!

SHE ISN&#039;T ONE! She is a &quot;psychology specialist&quot;, i.e. a quacker that doesn&#039;t know jack sh*t just POP-PSYCHOLOGY.

A rule of thumb: If they have are marketing a book with a full cover picture of themselves, YOU CAN DISREGARD THEM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t take this out on psychologists and psychology!!!<br />
They are needed and save lives when!!</p>
<p>SHE ISN&#8217;T ONE! She is a &#8220;psychology specialist&#8221;, i.e. a quacker that doesn&#8217;t know jack sh*t just POP-PSYCHOLOGY.</p>
<p>A rule of thumb: If they have are marketing a book with a full cover picture of themselves, YOU CAN DISREGARD THEM!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-416328</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAUXNews sucks anyway.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-416302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just makes me scared/sad/mad about the world that we live in.  If a simple sci-fi adventure is lied and generalized about in this manner then just imagine the spin that they put on &quot;important&quot; news stories (and they do!).  Pathetic.

&quot;...and I&#039;m definatly not gonna let Mass Effect in my house.&quot; - fascist a**hole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just makes me scared/sad/mad about the world that we live in.  If a simple sci-fi adventure is lied and generalized about in this manner then just imagine the spin that they put on &#8220;important&#8221; news stories (and they do!).  Pathetic.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and I&#8217;m definatly not gonna let Mass Effect in my house.&#8221; &#8211; fascist a**hole</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-416151</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fox = bullsh*t</description>
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		<title>By: Steohawk</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415930</link>
		<dc:creator>Steohawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Tim said is pretty much in-line with what I blogged about today. Psychology is nothing more than a modern, &quot;scientific&quot; version of leech-craft and witch-hunting. Even the gathering of statistics is prone to bias, not to mention the conclusions drawn from them. If you look at psychological studies from periods in which there was lots of discrimination against women, blacks, gays, Jews, etc., you&#039;ll find that such biases were reflected in the results. It isn&#039;t any different today, except that there are different biases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Tim said is pretty much in-line with what I blogged about today. Psychology is nothing more than a modern, &#8220;scientific&#8221; version of leech-craft and witch-hunting. Even the gathering of statistics is prone to bias, not to mention the conclusions drawn from them. If you look at psychological studies from periods in which there was lots of discrimination against women, blacks, gays, Jews, etc., you&#8217;ll find that such biases were reflected in the results. It isn&#8217;t any different today, except that there are different biases.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415865</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one popular game that DOESN&#039;T objectify women or alienate female gamers it is definitely Mass Effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one popular game that DOESN&#8217;T objectify women or alienate female gamers it is definitely Mass Effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415845</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not even going to bother to even say what is wrong with her except that she is way up there with Hilary Clinton and Jack Thompson which are complete idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not even going to bother to even say what is wrong with her except that she is way up there with Hilary Clinton and Jack Thompson which are complete idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: biltmore</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415753</link>
		<dc:creator>biltmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They wouldn&#039;t even*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They wouldn&#8217;t even*</p>
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		<title>By: biltmore</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415752</link>
		<dc:creator>biltmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faux News = Sensationalism at it&#039;s best

They would&#039;ve even give Geoff more than 10 seconds to talk before they cut him off. And the fact that she talks about the game being sexist, then proceeds to call him &quot;darling&quot; (talk about condescending) on National TV is just screwed up. Geoff quickly informed them that you can play the game as a woman too, and that you can&#039;t just have sex with the characters ... you have to build a relationship with them, then you see 20 seconds of the most soft core day time TV soap opera sex you&#039;ve ever seen in your life. I&#039;m talking side boob here, and that&#039;s it. Not &quot;sex from many positions, and graphic nudity&quot;. There is no nudity at all. Freaking ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faux News = Sensationalism at it&#8217;s best</p>
<p>They would&#8217;ve even give Geoff more than 10 seconds to talk before they cut him off. And the fact that she talks about the game being sexist, then proceeds to call him &#8220;darling&#8221; (talk about condescending) on National TV is just screwed up. Geoff quickly informed them that you can play the game as a woman too, and that you can&#8217;t just have sex with the characters &#8230; you have to build a relationship with them, then you see 20 seconds of the most soft core day time TV soap opera sex you&#8217;ve ever seen in your life. I&#8217;m talking side boob here, and that&#8217;s it. Not &#8220;sex from many positions, and graphic nudity&#8221;. There is no nudity at all. Freaking ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415685</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psychologists are idiots.  They observe and lie about their observations.  They are qualified to opine about nothing and they are overpaid in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psychologists are idiots.  They observe and lie about their observations.  They are qualified to opine about nothing and they are overpaid in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415676</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Faux News strikes again! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Faux News strikes again! <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: skreidle</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415667</link>
		<dc:creator>skreidle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I was seriously disappointed when I heard about all the graphic sex and nudity in Mass Effect, and went to YouTube to have a look.. hell, they could broadcast that in the middle of the afternoon and the FCC wouldn&#039;t bat a lash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I was seriously disappointed when I heard about all the graphic sex and nudity in Mass Effect, and went to YouTube to have a look.. hell, they could broadcast that in the middle of the afternoon and the FCC wouldn&#8217;t bat a lash.</p>
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		<title>By: Retrokatze</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415658</link>
		<dc:creator>Retrokatze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*snerk* If they get their panties in a twist over &quot;Mass Effect&quot;, I want to see their reactions to &quot;The Witcher&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*snerk* If they get their panties in a twist over &#8220;Mass Effect&#8221;, I want to see their reactions to &#8220;The Witcher&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415591</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is playing video games?
http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who is playing video games?<br />
<a href="http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geekazoid</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415580</link>
		<dc:creator>Geekazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Fox news, well what do y&#039;all expect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Fox news, well what do y&#8217;all expect</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/25/mass-effects-game-for-the-sex-box/comment-page-1/#comment-415559</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least everybody is uninformed on all sides.

&gt;.&lt;</description>
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<p>&gt;.&lt;</p>
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