Comments on: Hieronymus Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delight Papercraft http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:19:15 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: coynehead http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-1848803 coynehead Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:52:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-1848803 bad wheat & grain = brilliant art. bad wheat & grain =
brilliant art.

]]> By: kebabs http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-1841567 kebabs Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:59:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-1841567 yeah i wouldn't be surprised if bosch did dream a little wildy, but its honestly not to difficult to draw weird stuff like that if you don't begin drawing with anything in mind. give it a try, and give the "great" artists a run for their money some time yeah i wouldn't be surprised if bosch did dream a little wildy, but its honestly not to difficult to draw weird stuff like that if you don't begin drawing with anything in mind. give it a try, and give the "great" artists a run for their money some time

]]> By: hieronymus squash http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-1839899 hieronymus squash Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:53:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-1839899 Daemon: Aggressive much? The "what was he on?" comment is far too prevalent and tiresome. Tummler was just making the point that some folks have an imagination that doesn't require chemical stimulation. Yes DMT is a chemical and external of the body it is considered a controled substance but that is just semantics. Suplementing your body's natural production of DMT is taking drugs to stimulate creativity. Dreaming is not taking drugs regardless of your clever arguments. So no, you didn't actually correct anything. He is correct. Not every piece of abstract art comes from drug usage. Arguing that dreaming is technically drug usage is like arguing that masturbating is technically sex. "it would be significantly less beneficial for you to continue such a line, because the large majority of avant garde artists of any time are/were effected enormously by substance use." 1. the line he was arguing was that not all abstract art comes from drug use. 2. affected, not effected 3. You appear to suffer from an A+ education and a C- mind. You have big words and strong subject knowledge but you can't create a cogent argument. You were arguing against a point that tummler did not make. You were just pushing your own agenda. I have no formal education past the 11th grade. However, I know how to think. Daemon:
Aggressive much? The "what was he on?" comment is far too prevalent and tiresome. Tummler was just making the point that some folks have an imagination that doesn't require chemical stimulation. Yes DMT is a chemical and external of the body it is considered a controled substance but that is just semantics. Suplementing your body's natural production of DMT is taking drugs to stimulate creativity. Dreaming is not taking drugs regardless of your clever arguments. So no, you didn't actually correct anything. He is correct. Not every piece of abstract art comes from drug usage. Arguing that dreaming is technically drug usage is like arguing that masturbating is technically sex.
"it would be significantly less beneficial for you to continue such a line, because the large majority of avant garde artists of any time are/were effected enormously by substance use."
1. the line he was arguing was that not all abstract art comes from drug use.
2. affected, not effected
3. You appear to suffer from an A+ education and a C- mind. You have big words and strong subject knowledge but you can't create a cogent argument. You were arguing against a point that tummler did not make. You were just pushing your own agenda.
I have no formal education past the 11th grade. However, I know how to think.

]]> By: Daemon http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-1692344 Daemon Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:52:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-1692344 Tummler, Let me correct you on one thing--dreaming is instigated by a chemical in your brain called DMT, DMT when ingested in extract form causes almost immediate REM cycles for 10-15 min in the consumer, DMT is a substance put into the most serious of all drug schedules in the US and is in the same tryptamine family group as Magic mushrooms and LSD. So, at least in the definition of the state, anything you derive from dreaming (visions, inspirations, forsight, or even material for a masterpiece painting) can be attributed at least in small part to this illegal chemical. If you are going to make a comment on how sober artists are just as talented and strange as drug induced artists, then I thought you might build a slightly less hol(e)y argument. Although, it would be significantly less beneficial for you to continue such a line, because the large majority of avant garde artists of any time are/were effected enormously by substance use. This group's output of importance far outweighs the straight and sober method that I assume you stick to. No drinks to lube up imagination, a cup of coffee to keep going, maybe a joint or two when no one is looking? Tummler,

Let me correct you on one thing--dreaming is instigated by a chemical in your brain called DMT, DMT when ingested in extract form causes almost immediate REM cycles for 10-15 min in the consumer, DMT is a substance put into the most serious of all drug schedules in the US and is in the same tryptamine family group as Magic mushrooms and LSD. So, at least in the definition of the state, anything you derive from dreaming (visions, inspirations, forsight, or even material for a masterpiece painting) can be attributed at least in small part to this illegal chemical. If you are going to make a comment on how sober artists are just as talented and strange as drug induced artists, then I thought you might build a slightly less hol(e)y argument. Although, it would be significantly less beneficial for you to continue such a line, because the large majority of avant garde artists of any time are/were effected enormously by substance use. This group's output of importance far outweighs the straight and sober method that I assume you stick to. No drinks to lube up imagination, a cup of coffee to keep going, maybe a joint or two when no one is looking?

]]> By: tummler http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-1632062 tummler Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:15:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-1632062 He didn't smoke anything, James. Not every piece of abstract or surreal art comes from drug usage. Hell, I've had dreams that blow apart anything thought up while on drugs. He didn't smoke anything, James.

Not every piece of abstract or surreal art comes from drug usage. Hell, I've had dreams that blow apart anything thought up while on drugs.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-409407 ted Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:28:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-409407 I loved reading the English on the site. The bird with the letter is from Bosch's "The Temptation of St Anthony". I loved reading the English on the site.

The bird with the letter is from Bosch's "The Temptation of St Anthony".

]]> By: b°b http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-409216 b°b Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:32:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-409216 that's really awesome. that's really awesome.

]]> By: James http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/comment-page-1/#comment-409146 James Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:53:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/22/hieronymus-boschs-the-garden-of-earthly-delight-papercraft/#comment-409146 Very cool. But what did Bosch smoke to get the inspiration to draw those creatures? :) Very cool. But what did Bosch smoke to get the inspiration to draw those creatures? :)

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