Comments on: Clinton, McCain Won New Hampshire Primaries http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/ The Neat Side of the Web Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:22:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Rob http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-383350 Rob Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:18:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-383350 We really don't know who won that primary and probably never will. Why? 81% of the votes were cast on old Diebold machines. You can (and probably should) watch them (these exact same machines) being hacked on YouTube. It takes about a minute or two. I don't blame people like Anthony (above) for wanting to hide their heads in the sand. It's a very scary thing to face up to. Whenever we hear the words like "surprise" and "unexpected upset" in an election with electronic voting machines and no paper trail it's time to take a closer look. We really don't know who won that primary and probably never will. Why? 81% of the votes were cast on old Diebold machines. You can (and probably should) watch them (these exact same machines) being hacked on YouTube.
It takes about a minute or two.
I don't blame people like Anthony (above) for wanting to hide their heads in the sand. It's a very scary thing to face up to.
Whenever we hear the words like "surprise" and "unexpected upset" in an election with electronic voting machines and no paper trail it's time to take a closer look.

]]> By: VonSkippy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-383118 VonSkippy Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:17:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-383118 Isn't McCain like 112 years old or something close to that? Did I miss the memo where they actually made the Futurama "head in a jar" thing a reality? Isn't McCain like 112 years old or something close to that?

Did I miss the memo where they actually made the Futurama "head in a jar" thing a reality?

]]> By: Cindy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382684 Cindy Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:30:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382684 Um, you can drive into new Hampshire, tell them you intend on "living there, someday" and get a ballot to vote...at as many precincts as you would like. They ran out of Democrat ballots by 2 p.m. in most areas. Can't wait for the Presidential election. Um, you can drive into new Hampshire, tell them you intend on "living there, someday" and get a ballot to vote...at as many precincts as you would like.

They ran out of Democrat ballots by 2 p.m. in most areas.

Can't wait for the Presidential election.

]]> By: Josh http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382497 Josh Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:39:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382497 Clinton cries in a video and gets more votes. People really need to learn who they are voting for. Clinton cries in a video and gets more votes. People really need to learn who they are voting for.

]]> By: Anthony http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382411 Anthony Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:11:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382411 Oh yeah, the candidate I supported didn't win. IT MUST HAVE BEEN RIGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CLINTON AND THE (space) ALIENS STOLE THE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!! Since you can't see my face I'm rolling my eyes at you, John K. Oh yeah, the candidate I supported didn't win. IT MUST HAVE BEEN RIGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CLINTON AND THE (space) ALIENS STOLE THE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since you can't see my face I'm rolling my eyes at you, John K.

]]> By: mindysan http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382410 mindysan Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:10:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382410 FYI- Andrew Sullivan, who is a big Obama supporter, shows that Obama actually got one more delegate than Clinton got in NH, and as that is what matters, he technically won: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/obama-actually.html That being said, Hilary has a total of 183 vs Obama's 78 as she has more Superdelegates, which are handed out in some way outside the caucus/primary system- if anyone understands how they arrive at the number of superdelegates promised and if that # can be changed, let me know. I think this will come down to the wire on the democratic side, frankly. Delegates score card is up at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D Mindysan FYI- Andrew Sullivan, who is a big Obama supporter, shows that Obama actually got one more delegate than Clinton got in NH, and as that is what matters, he technically won:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/obama-act ually.html

That being said, Hilary has a total of 183 vs Obama's 78 as she has more Superdelegates, which are handed out in some way outside the caucus/primary system- if anyone understands how they arrive at the number of superdelegates promised and if that # can be changed, let me know. I think this will come down to the wire on the democratic side, frankly. Delegates score card is up at CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D

Mindysan

]]> By: johnk http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382384 johnk Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:21:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382384 This smells real funny. Either rigged, or people believed President Clinton's speach full of lies about Obama, taking his quotes out of context. The Clintons need to hang it up and go the philanthropic route. Make way for the new generation of democrats the everyday American can relate to. Obama/Webb 08!! This smells real funny.

Either rigged, or people believed President Clinton's speach full of lies about Obama, taking his quotes out of context.

The Clintons need to hang it up and go the philanthropic route. Make way for the new generation of democrats the everyday American can relate to.

Obama/Webb 08!!

]]> By: Anthony http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382372 Anthony Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:03:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382372 Ride the Obama train to President town! Ride the Obama train to President town!

]]> By: Johnald_Chaffinch http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/comment-page-1/#comment-382369 Johnald_Chaffinch Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:58:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/09/clinton-mccain-won-new-hampshire-primaries/#comment-382369 rigged, no question. rigged, no question.

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