Comments on: The Simpul Spelling Moovment http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:51:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: sunil kumar http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-359963 sunil kumar Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:31:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-359963 as a non english language person, i find english very illogical. i would welcome a more phonetic and logical spellings and pronounciation, hindi language of india is much more, totally logical with no exceptions. sunil as a non english language person, i find english very illogical. i would welcome a more phonetic and logical spellings and pronounciation, hindi language of india is much more, totally logical with no exceptions.

sunil

]]> By: Rohin http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-352398 Rohin Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:44:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-352398 I was about to shout at you silly Americans and say "only in the States", but damn you Sid Morrison, you spoiled my fun. I was about to shout at you silly Americans and say “only in the States”, but damn you Sid Morrison, you spoiled my fun.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-350931 Alex Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:19:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-350931 Thanks for the fix, Corrine! The idea of simple spellings may have died off, but that doesn't mean the English language won't change. The next big change will come from texting and web-speak. Thanks for the fix, Corrine!

The idea of simple spellings may have died off, but that doesn’t mean the English language won’t change. The next big change will come from texting and web-speak.

]]> By: Skipweasel http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-350907 Skipweasel Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:50:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-350907 Welsh allegedly has phontic spelling, but since the accent differs from North Wales to South Wales - the spelling differs too! Hardly an ideal situation. Welsh allegedly has phontic spelling, but since the accent differs from North Wales to South Wales - the spelling differs too! Hardly an ideal situation.

]]> By: Paavo Ojala http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-350697 Paavo Ojala Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:20:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-350697 I think it would have been a great idea. At least I'm very happy with the phonetic writing system finnish has. It makes learning to read much easier and is one of the reasons why finnish school kids do well in international level. carnegie was wrong thinking that it would be especially useful to foreigners because: "The foreigner has the greatest difficulty in acquiring it because of its spelling." spelling is easy for foreigners. we learn words from dictionaries and textbooks. pronouncing the words is difficult tho. phonetic alfabets would probably lessen the differences between accents (or dialects) only problem is that which accent would we choose for the phonetical basis of this great simplified spelling. I think it would have been a great idea. At least I’m very happy with the phonetic writing system finnish has. It makes learning to read much easier and is one of the reasons why finnish school kids do well in international level.

carnegie was wrong thinking that it would be especially useful to foreigners because: “The foreigner has the greatest difficulty in acquiring it because of its spelling.”
spelling is easy for foreigners. we learn words from dictionaries and textbooks. pronouncing the words is difficult tho.

phonetic alfabets would probably lessen the differences between accents (or dialects) only problem is that which accent would we choose for the phonetical basis of this great simplified spelling.

]]> By: alm http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-349839 alm Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:10:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-349839 There is a simplified "spelling" system, and you can see it represented on the IPA chart (http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/course/chapter1/chapter1.html). Instead of using letters, each individual sound has its own symbol (some of which happen to be just like the letters we usually assign them to). Instead of having to worry about how to pronounce the different "a" sounds in words like "hat" vs. "cape" vs. "mall", each of those sounds has its own symbol. It's also universal, so you could read a word in, say, Chinese, "spelled" using IPA transcription, and you would be able to pronounce it (as opposed to reading something in a language using their symbols and having no clue how to say it out loud). You won't be able to figure out what it means (it is still a foreign language!), but you can see how it is meant to be pronounced. There is a simplified “spelling” system, and you can see it represented on the IPA chart (http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/course/chapter1/chapter1.html). Instead of using letters, each individual sound has its own symbol (some of which happen to be just like the letters we usually assign them to). Instead of having to worry about how to pronounce the different “a” sounds in words like “hat” vs. “cape” vs. “mall”, each of those sounds has its own symbol. It’s also universal, so you could read a word in, say, Chinese, “spelled” using IPA transcription, and you would be able to pronounce it (as opposed to reading something in a language using their symbols and having no clue how to say it out loud). You won’t be able to figure out what it means (it is still a foreign language!), but you can see how it is meant to be pronounced.

]]> By: Corrine http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-349224 Corrine Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:21:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-349224 {gasp} *MELVIL* Dewey, not "Melvin". (Librarians everywhere are sobbing). He did to his own name what he was trying to do with words. {gasp} *MELVIL* Dewey, not “Melvin”. (Librarians everywhere are sobbing). He did to his own name what he was trying to do with words.

]]> By: Patricio http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-349007 Patricio Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:09:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-349007 This is like old-timey ebonics. This is like old-timey ebonics.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348790 Sid Morrison Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:29:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348790 This was a rage at that time, not only in the US, but also Britain. A bunch of period titles on it are availble free at book.google.com... Enter in (no quotes) [simplified spelling] and you'll find a bunch. Here's a good one: http://books.google.com/books?id=yxlMAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=simplified+spelling This was a rage at that time, not only in the US, but also Britain. A bunch of period titles on it are availble free at book.google.com… Enter in (no quotes) [simplified spelling] and you’ll find a bunch.

Here’s a good one:
http://books.google.com/books?id=yxlMAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=s implified+spelling

]]> By: Skipweasel http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348611 Skipweasel Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:46:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348611 Trouble with "standardised" spelling is it take no account of accent. My son says tooth with a long oo, kids in his school mostly say tuth with a short u like put. He says clothes, they say clowers. He says shoes, they say shoowers. How could you standardise that? Trouble with “standardised” spelling is it take no account of accent. My son says tooth with a long oo, kids in his school mostly say tuth with a short u like put. He says clothes, they say clowers. He says shoes, they say shoowers. How could you standardise that?

]]> By: Melissa http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348457 Melissa Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:39:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348457 2 bad he didnt stk arnd long enuf 2 c txtng. 2 bad he didnt stk arnd long enuf 2 c txtng.

]]> By: xayzer http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348420 xayzer Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:02:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/the-simpul-spelling-moovment/#comment-348420 Nais pis uv informayshon. Good thing they decided against it. Nais pis uv informayshon.
Good thing they decided against it.

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