Comments on: New Symbol for European Elite Force: Castrated Lion! http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/ The Neat Side of the Web Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:38:36 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: JB http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-389429 JB Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:49:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-389429 > Yes, so why does it also need an anatomically incorrect, human like penis and scrotum? I believe the inclusion of said equipment (anatomically correct or otherwise) is more true to the specific artistic style chosen for the lion. If you look up images of Medieval heraldry, you'll find that a lot of critters have been rendered with their "junk" in view, some of which is also anatomically incorrect. The reason for including genitalia in heraldic designs is anyone's guess, but I suppose my point is that the artist who made the original lion for The Nordic Battlegroup was likely trying to keep with the style of art that was chosen for reference. > Yes, so why does it also need an anatomically incorrect, human like penis and scrotum?

I believe the inclusion of said equipment (anatomically correct or otherwise) is more true to the specific artistic style chosen for the lion. If you look up images of Medieval heraldry, you'll find that a lot of critters have been rendered with their "junk" in view, some of which is also anatomically incorrect. The reason for including genitalia in heraldic designs is anyone's guess, but I suppose my point is that the artist who made the original lion for The Nordic Battlegroup was likely trying to keep with the style of art that was chosen for reference.

]]> By: LB http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-368985 LB Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:28:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-368985 I know a bit late but, um, Kate, do a google image search on 'lion passant' and 'lion rampant' and you'll see that the article is *correct*. I know a bit late but, um, Kate, do a google image search on 'lion passant' and 'lion rampant' and you'll see that the article is *correct*.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-351940 Sid Morrison Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:55:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-351940 accidently hit 'submit'... What I was getting at in the prior post is that maybe this Nordic Battlegroup needs more Finns and fewer Swedes. Finland has some pretty liberal gun laws -- their citizenry is armed and not afraid to protect itself from aggression. Just a thought... accidently hit 'submit'...
What I was getting at in the prior post is that maybe this Nordic Battlegroup needs more Finns and fewer Swedes. Finland has some pretty liberal gun laws -- their citizenry is armed and not afraid to protect itself from aggression. Just a thought...

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-351938 Sid Morrison Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:52:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-351938 I dunno ... the basic image strikes me as bogus. The naughty bits look like an afterthought added by a 14 year old with Photoshop. The story smells of phoniness. That said, a fighting force primarily composed of Swedes doesn't instill a bunch of confidence in me. Sweden seriously wussied out during WWII, maintaining an official policy of neutrality, yet in reality generally collaborating with the Nazis a lot. They sold them tons of critical ballbearing & raw materials and also permitted the Wehrmacht to use their roads and railways to move troops back and forth between forcibly occupied Norway and Finland. The Finns for their part had some nominal alliance with the Germans, but it was really only to help fend off the communist Russians (Finland was pretty good on its own at this though!), who had serious design on Finland's territory and were the more imminent threat. I dunno ... the basic image strikes me as bogus. The naughty bits look like an afterthought added by a 14 year old with Photoshop. The story smells of phoniness.

That said, a fighting force primarily composed of Swedes doesn't instill a bunch of confidence in me. Sweden seriously wussied out during WWII, maintaining an official policy of neutrality, yet in reality generally collaborating with the Nazis a lot. They sold them tons of critical ballbearing & raw materials and also permitted the Wehrmacht to use their roads and railways to move troops back and forth between forcibly occupied Norway and Finland. The Finns for their part had some nominal alliance with the Germans, but it was really only to help fend off the communist Russians (Finland was pretty good on its own at this though!), who had serious design on Finland's territory and were the more imminent threat.

]]> By: Lars Westergren http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-351618 Lars Westergren Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:46:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-351618 >It’s STILL a very male lion. It has a freakin’ MANE. Yes, so why does it also need an anatomically incorrect, human like penis and scrotum? >I would be embarrassed by this, too - for the fact that they caved to a couple of petty, uppity whiners. ...who are risking their lives in combat situations. >It’s STILL a very male lion. It has a freakin’ MANE.

Yes, so why does it also need an anatomically incorrect, human like penis and scrotum?

>I would be embarrassed by this, too - for the fact that they caved to a couple of petty, uppity whiners.

...who are risking their lives in combat situations.

]]> By: Arto Peltomäki http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-351526 Arto Peltomäki Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:18:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-351526 Get your facts right! It's not "Northern Europe's Elite Force", it's only the Swedish Army that changed their herald!! Don't get the rest of Scandinavia involved in this stupidity.. >:P Get your facts right! It's not "Northern Europe's Elite Force", it's only the Swedish Army that changed their herald!!

Don't get the rest of Scandinavia involved in this stupidity.. >:P

]]> By: Denita TwoDragons http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-351407 Denita TwoDragons Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:30:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-351407 *gasp* How dare a MALE lion have that...that...that...THINGY there?! Oh, I shall faint now! I need therapy! I'm traumatized by that lion's P-P-P-PEEEEENISSSS!! Sheesh. --TwoDragons *gasp* How dare a MALE lion have that...that...that...THINGY there?! Oh, I shall faint now! I need therapy! I'm traumatized by that lion's P-P-P-PEEEEENISSSS!!

Sheesh.

--TwoDragons

]]> By: CM http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-350860 CM Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:38:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-350860 It's STILL a very male lion. It has a freakin' MANE. I would be embarrassed by this, too - for the fact that they caved to a couple of petty, uppity whiners. It's STILL a very male lion. It has a freakin' MANE. I would be embarrassed by this, too - for the fact that they caved to a couple of petty, uppity whiners.

]]> By: Lars Westergren http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-350029 Lars Westergren Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:57:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-350029 >Now the Nordic Battlegroup, a force of 2,400 soldiers, is looking deeply embarrassed. Hardly. They have important peace keeping missions to care about, and I think the male members are secure enough in their masculinity not to care about a few pixels on an image somewhere. >Now the Nordic Battlegroup, a force of 2,400 soldiers, is looking deeply embarrassed.

Hardly. They have important peace keeping missions to care about, and I think the male members are secure enough in their masculinity not to care about a few pixels on an image somewhere.

]]> By: Kerozene http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-349423 Kerozene Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:07:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-349423 like Cks2996 said, an accurate male lion's "junk" dosn't look like a humans. if you have a pet cat, its similar. located in the back so they can easily spray territory, and tiny. Best to just remove it because it looks like a guy with a weenie fetish just had to slap a human joystick on the lion. like Cks2996 said, an accurate male lion's "junk" dosn't look like a humans. if you have a pet cat, its similar. located in the back so they can easily spray territory, and tiny.

Best to just remove it because it looks like a guy with a weenie fetish just had to slap a human joystick on the lion.

]]> By: Kate http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-349331 Kate Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:44:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-349331 questions of anatomy aside, that lion's position is passant, not rampant. questions of anatomy aside, that lion's position is passant, not rampant.

]]> By: raincoaster http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-349232 raincoaster Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:29:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-349232 It's not so much emasculated as "Bobbitted". Perhaps it will go on to a long, sleazy career of bad porn flicks and celebrity appearances opening dive bars? It's not so much emasculated as "Bobbitted". Perhaps it will go on to a long, sleazy career of bad porn flicks and celebrity appearances opening dive bars?

]]> By: CKS2996 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-349093 CKS2996 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:04:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-349093 To be truly anatomically correct, a lion's junk isn't there anyhow. To be truly anatomically correct, a lion's junk isn't there anyhow.

]]> By: Vonskippy http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-349081 Vonskippy Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:59:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-349081 Whats with the tongue and the toenail polish? Whats with the tongue and the toenail polish?

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348981 Sid Morrison Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:53:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348981 European Court of Justice huh? Sounds like where the Superfriends hang out when they are on holiday. European Court of Justice huh? Sounds like where the Superfriends hang out when they are on holiday.

]]> By: Abestar http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348952 Abestar Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:28:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348952 Yay for political correctness ruining another harmless tradition. If I was a guy in that outfit, I'd be pissed. Yay for political correctness ruining another harmless tradition.

If I was a guy in that outfit, I'd be pissed.

]]> By: ryan http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348916 ryan Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:10:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348916 @ted I think if they drew the loin anatomically correct it would have trouble holding the sword, lacking opposable thumbs and all. @ted

I think if they drew the loin anatomically correct it would have trouble holding the sword, lacking opposable thumbs and all.

]]> By: Dave http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348789 Dave Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:26:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348789 I think the word should be "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emasculation" rel="nofollow">emasculated</a>" instead of "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration" rel="nofollow">castrated</a>"; there is a difference. I think the word should be "emasculated" instead of "castrated"; there is a difference.

]]> By: ImageGag http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348558 ImageGag Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:52:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348558 Our Wall Street Bull is next. Our Wall Street Bull is next.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348430 ted Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:15:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348430 Sounds like Urban Legend material to me. If they were to draw the lion anatomically correct, I doubt they would also draw a scrotum. Sounds like Urban Legend material to me.

If they were to draw the lion anatomically correct, I doubt they would also draw a scrotum.

]]> By: fz http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348415 fz Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:52:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348415 No big loss No big loss

]]> By: Jeff http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348377 Jeff Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:09:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348377 Newsflash ladies, the lion has a mane, it's obviously male. Cutting off his frank and beans doesn't make it a lady. Newsflash ladies, the lion has a mane, it's obviously male. Cutting off his frank and beans doesn't make it a lady.

]]> By: Liz McRae http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/comment-page-1/#comment-348300 Liz McRae Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:02:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/17/new-symbol-for-european-elite-force-castrated-lion/#comment-348300 I think my husband said it best when he saw this: "I've heard of gilding the lily, but never gelding the lion!" I think my husband said it best when he saw this:

"I've heard of gilding the lily, but never gelding the lion!"

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