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	<title>Comments on: Israeli Defense Force Dreidels</title>
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		<title>By: Webtrekker</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329535</link>
		<dc:creator>Webtrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Doc,
     I salute you. I have been trying for years to figure out how to put the words braying, perfidy and yammer together in one short and coherent paragraph, but you pulled it off with great aplomb. 

     BTW, I didn&#039;t mention Arab perfidy-only intransigence. As for my &quot;uber-patriotic&quot; &quot;braying&quot; about the heroic work of the IDF, perhaps you are familiar with the expression &quot;Ein Breira&quot; If not, you should be.

     I don&#039;t mind debate. I just don&#039;t think there&#039;s much of a chance of resolving the problems of the Middle East in this comments section. 
     
     The reason I responded to Fish&#039;s caution -that some might take umbrage at the inclusion of an IDF dreidel- is, however, something I&#039;m willing to discuss. Fish&#039;s need (again I&#039;m assuming he is Jewish because he talks of his menorah) to add a disclaimer to his comments -that some might find this an &quot;openly aggressive statement&quot;  is emblematic of the overly sensitive, PC attitude that pervades our culture. We&#039;re not permitted to express our opinions without an apology or a precondition, lest someone&#039;s feelings be hurt (God forbid!) It was particularly galling for me to sense Fish&#039;s instinctive and reflexive need to (hopefully) preempt any criticism leveled at the inclusion of this article by demonstrating his empathy with the plight of those who take issue with the IDF. Believe me, Fish, we all know and appreciate that there are those who don&#039;t like  Israel and the IDF, but you are a good person for feeling their pain. 

Ready for the flames as ever,

Web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Doc,<br />
     I salute you. I have been trying for years to figure out how to put the words braying, perfidy and yammer together in one short and coherent paragraph, but you pulled it off with great aplomb. </p>
<p>     BTW, I didn't mention Arab perfidy-only intransigence. As for my "uber-patriotic" "braying" about the heroic work of the IDF, perhaps you are familiar with the expression "Ein Breira" If not, you should be.</p>
<p>     I don't mind debate. I just don't think there's much of a chance of resolving the problems of the Middle East in this comments section. </p>
<p>     The reason I responded to Fish's caution -that some might take umbrage at the inclusion of an IDF dreidel- is, however, something I'm willing to discuss. Fish's need (again I'm assuming he is Jewish because he talks of his menorah) to add a disclaimer to his comments -that some might find this an "openly aggressive statement"  is emblematic of the overly sensitive, PC attitude that pervades our culture. We're not permitted to express our opinions without an apology or a precondition, lest someone's feelings be hurt (God forbid!) It was particularly galling for me to sense Fish's instinctive and reflexive need to (hopefully) preempt any criticism leveled at the inclusion of this article by demonstrating his empathy with the plight of those who take issue with the IDF. Believe me, Fish, we all know and appreciate that there are those who don't like  Israel and the IDF, but you are a good person for feeling their pain. </p>
<p>Ready for the flames as ever,</p>
<p>Web</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Slack</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329173</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Slack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m not writing this to start a debate about the Middle East here.&lt;/i&gt;

No, you&#039;d rather just get in some uber-patriotic braying and skip the debate, I&#039;m sure. But I don&#039;t suppose it&#039;s occurred to you that people like yourself are precisely the reason for Fish&#039;s caution. Not everyone wants to be taken for the sort who yammers about Arab perfidy and the brave work of the IDF at the drop of a hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m not writing this to start a debate about the Middle East here.</i></p>
<p>No, you'd rather just get in some uber-patriotic braying and skip the debate, I'm sure. But I don't suppose it's occurred to you that people like yourself are precisely the reason for Fish's caution. Not everyone wants to be taken for the sort who yammers about Arab perfidy and the brave work of the IDF at the drop of a hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329162</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they would look better if they didn&#039;t add the little cartoon people in each picture. It makes them look a cheezy, like something you&#039;d see in the 1970s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they would look better if they didn't add the little cartoon people in each picture. It makes them look a cheezy, like something you'd see in the 1970s.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Morrison</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329133</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel, I made you out of claymore mines!

Take that you terrorist bastards! 
KABOOM!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel, I made you out of claymore mines!</p>
<p>Take that you terrorist bastards!<br />
KABOOM!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329111</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still kicking myself for not buying the Dick Tracy yarmulke I saw back in 1990.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm still kicking myself for not buying the Dick Tracy yarmulke I saw back in 1990.</p>
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		<title>By: Webtrekker</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329101</link>
		<dc:creator>Webtrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Fish..I&#039;m &quot;Just Sayin&#039;&quot; that I am proud of the men and women who stand between the people of Israel and many of its neighbors who after 60 years still won&#039;t recognize the right of a Jewish State to exist. I&#039;m assuming you are Jewish since you  possessed a menorah. Shame on you for worrying that acknowledging support for the IDF is an &quot;aggressive statment.&quot; Would you prefer that the IDF be weaker or perceived as such? If it were, then you&#039;d see some aggression--believe me. 

BTW, I&#039;m not writing this to start a debate about the Middle East here. What I objected to was Fish&#039;s worry that someone might be offended by a dreidel cover. Let them be offended. I&#039;m offended by people wanting to execute a school teacher over a teddy bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Fish..I'm "Just Sayin'" that I am proud of the men and women who stand between the people of Israel and many of its neighbors who after 60 years still won't recognize the right of a Jewish State to exist. I'm assuming you are Jewish since you  possessed a menorah. Shame on you for worrying that acknowledging support for the IDF is an "aggressive statment." Would you prefer that the IDF be weaker or perceived as such? If it were, then you'd see some aggression--believe me. </p>
<p>BTW, I'm not writing this to start a debate about the Middle East here. What I objected to was Fish's worry that someone might be offended by a dreidel cover. Let them be offended. I'm offended by people wanting to execute a school teacher over a teddy bear.</p>
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		<title>By: Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2007/12/03/israeli-defense-force-dreidels/comment-page-1/#comment-329060</link>
		<dc:creator>Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have a menorah that had a image of Judith holding the head of Holofernes with a blood dripping sword on it. It was truly strange.

Also it should be noted that there are people who consider IDF tags and the like to be an openly aggressive statement.

Just Sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have a menorah that had a image of Judith holding the head of Holofernes with a blood dripping sword on it. It was truly strange.</p>
<p>Also it should be noted that there are people who consider IDF tags and the like to be an openly aggressive statement.</p>
<p>Just Sayin'.</p>
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