Comments on: A Short History of Women Inventors and Scientists http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:54:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Sol Lederman http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-298649 Sol Lederman Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:32:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-298649 Nice article. Thank you for writing it. There's a nice book with vignettes from Math history that features lots of women. My blog has a review of the book: http://wildaboutmath.com/2007/11/14/math-history-made-fun/ Nice article. Thank you for writing it.

There’s a nice book with vignettes from Math history that features lots of women. My blog has a review of the book:

http://wildaboutmath.com/2007/11/14/math-history-made-fun/

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-293602 Alex Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:39:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-293602 Thanks Sid - I knew about the UK version of the Iggulden bros' book. I don't know if there's a UK version of The Daring Book for Girls. Thanks Sid - I knew about the UK version of the Iggulden bros’ book. I don’t know if there’s a UK version of The Daring Book for Girls.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-293113 Sid Morrison Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:15:40 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-293113 @Alex: 1. Thanks for the answer on the tie-in to the Iggulden boy's book. It looks like they gave permission, probably after a lot of £ changed hands. 2. The *version* of the book being promoted, is the US edition. There is also at least a UK version as well & maybe more. If it is like the Iggulden "DBfB", the heroes listed are biased toward the target country. Nothing wrong with this -- it's a fine idea for the young readers to read about heroes they can more easily personally identify with. Some, like Marie Curie, are big enough "stars" that they will be in EVERY edition of course... @Alex:
1. Thanks for the answer on the tie-in to the Iggulden boy’s book. It looks like they gave permission, probably after a lot of £ changed hands.
2. The *version* of the book being promoted, is the US edition. There is also at least a UK version as well & maybe more. If it is like the Iggulden “DBfB”, the heroes listed are biased toward the target country. Nothing wrong with this — it’s a fine idea for the young readers to read about heroes they can more easily personally identify with. Some, like Marie Curie, are big enough “stars” that they will be in EVERY edition of course…

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-290257 Alex Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:54:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-290257 @C #6: This post is an excerpted article with the same title from a book that is sold in the United States. Naturally, the title simply said Women Inventors while listing mostly US women. I'll try to remember that Neatorama has international readers - but the bulk of the blog's audience remains from the US. @C #6: This post is an excerpted article with the same title from a book that is sold in the United States. Naturally, the title simply said Women Inventors while listing mostly US women.

I’ll try to remember that Neatorama has international readers - but the bulk of the blog’s audience remains from the US.

]]> By: Doug http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289816 Doug Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:44:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289816 Hedy Lamarr also worked on an elegant torpedo guidance system too. As someone working in the sciences, I'm always glad to see something come out that will inspire anyone to go into science. Still, as for daring... I don't know if I see it. In the absence of a truly oppressive milieu, what is there to 'dare' against other than self challenge or personally imposed limitations? While there still are a few hold out of the "old boys club" in Science, to paraphase the Simpsons "I don't like it, but they'll be dead soon, so it's ok." Hedy Lamarr also worked on an elegant torpedo guidance system too.

As someone working in the sciences, I’m always glad to see something come out that will inspire anyone to go into science. Still, as for daring… I don’t know if I see it. In the absence of a truly oppressive milieu, what is there to ‘dare’ against other than self challenge or personally imposed limitations? While there still are a few hold out of the “old boys club” in Science, to paraphase the Simpsons “I don’t like it, but they’ll be dead soon, so it’s ok.”

]]> By: TL http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289755 TL Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:57:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289755 This list has at least 3 woman not American. Marie Curie born in Warsaw, Poland. Not American. Hedy Lamarr born Vienna Austria. Not America. Sybilla Masters was an American colonist yes, but, born in England. Methinks thou speaks to quickly. Check your facts. Neatorama did just right. This list has at least 3 woman not American.
Marie Curie born in Warsaw, Poland.
Not American.

Hedy Lamarr born Vienna Austria.
Not America.

Sybilla Masters was an American colonist yes, but, born in England.

Methinks thou speaks to quickly. Check your facts.

Neatorama did just right.

]]> By: Vickie http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289738 Vickie Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:46:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289738 For that matter, why isnt there a headline with "American Female Scientistswith no Native American Heritage", "Australian Female Scientist whos name begins with the letter A", "African Female Scientists who are over 5 foot 8 inches tall", "Female Scientists who have brownish hair but changes color in the sunshine NOT names Frances or Mary".... all with supporting information? Women are women regardless ..... why is it when I read this stuff I dont dont say "Where did those deer under the trampoline come from?" Why doesnt it say "Tanish deer under the trampoline made in Taiwan with springs manufactured in Idaho and frame put together in Sidney" instead of "Deer under the trampoline" HOLY COW get over yourself..everything doesnt have to be PC and everything is NOT offensive.. sheesh For that matter, why isnt there a headline with “American Female Scientistswith no Native American Heritage”, “Australian Female Scientist whos name begins with the letter A”, “African Female Scientists who are over 5 foot 8 inches tall”, “Female Scientists who have brownish hair but changes color in the sunshine NOT names Frances or Mary”…. all with supporting information?

Women are women regardless ….. why is it when I read this stuff I dont dont say “Where did those deer under the trampoline come from?” Why doesnt it say “Tanish deer under the trampoline made in Taiwan with springs manufactured in Idaho and frame put together in Sidney” instead of “Deer under the trampoline”

HOLY COW get over yourself..everything doesnt have to be PC and everything is NOT offensive..

sheesh

]]> By: C http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289423 C Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:14:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289423 Once again - you American's have no sense of how much of the world does NOT involve you. You create a headline "A Short History of Women Inventors and Scientists" and then only included women in or of the US? You know there are many, many non-American woman scientists. Perhaps your headline should have been, "A Short History of U.S Women Inventors and Scientists". Once again - you American’s have no sense of how much of the world does NOT involve you. You create a headline “A Short History of Women Inventors and Scientists” and then only included women in or of the US?

You know there are many, many non-American woman scientists. Perhaps your headline should have been, “A Short History of U.S Women Inventors and Scientists”.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289413 Alex Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:11:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289413 @Sid Morrison #4: I don't know the details about the intellectual property to the concept/design, but The Daring Book for Girls does have this inscription: <em>The publisher and authors acknowledge the inspiration of The Dangerous Book for Boys for the concept and design for this book and are grateful to Conn and Hal Iggulden for their permission.</em> @Sid Morrison #4: I don’t know the details about the intellectual property to the concept/design, but The Daring Book for Girls does have this inscription:

The publisher and authors acknowledge the inspiration of The Dangerous Book for Boys for the concept and design for this book and are grateful to Conn and Hal Iggulden for their permission.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289335 Sid Morrison Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:21:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-289335 Bingo. Our credo: If you like it, TAKE IT... If you don't, BREAK IT! Seriously, I hope the girlie book is as nicely done as the one the Iggulden brothers did for boys. Given the different set of authors, apparently the publishers and not the Igguldens own the intellectual property to the concept, design, &c.... it looks to pretty much a female version in exactly the same mold (not a bad thing, but interesting). Considering how good their book is (I bought the UK version before a US one was even out ... it's for my infant son to have someday and I couldn't wait), I was a little surprised they weren't involved in the girlie one as well (are they behind the scenes?). Whose idea was the original? Did the publisher hire the Iggulden brothers or did they write it first and shop for a publisher? Bingo. Our credo: If you like it, TAKE IT… If you don’t, BREAK IT!

Seriously, I hope the girlie book is as nicely done as the one the Iggulden brothers did for boys. Given the different set of authors, apparently the publishers and not the Igguldens own the intellectual property to the concept, design, &c…. it looks to pretty much a female version in exactly the same mold (not a bad thing, but interesting). Considering how good their book is (I bought the UK version before a US one was even out … it’s for my infant son to have someday and I couldn’t wait), I was a little surprised they weren’t involved in the girlie one as well (are they behind the scenes?). Whose idea was the original? Did the publisher hire the Iggulden brothers or did they write it first and shop for a publisher?

]]> By: Mishele http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-288770 Mishele Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:46:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-288770 Yes, we all know you boys aren't happy unless you're breaking something and making a lot of noise. Yes, we all know you boys aren’t happy unless you’re breaking something and making a lot of noise.

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-288522 Sid Morrison Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-288522 Oh, I am SO glad this is coming out. I've grown rather tired of the criticism the "Dangerous Book for Boys" took from lefties on account of its lack of inclusiveness for girls. Here's your book, chicks, now go away and let us climb rocks and burn things. Oh, I am SO glad this is coming out. I’ve grown rather tired of the criticism the “Dangerous Book for Boys” took from lefties on account of its lack of inclusiveness for girls. Here’s your book, chicks, now go away and let us climb rocks and burn things.

]]> By: orgaqualia http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-288455 orgaqualia Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:36:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/12/a-short-history-of-women-inventors-and-scientists/#comment-288455 where is Ada? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace where is Ada?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

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