Comments on: Advanced Civilizations and Mastery of Galactic Forms of Energy http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/ The Neat Side of the Web Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:25:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-279960 Alex Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:16:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-279960 That's a good point, ivan - advancement in technology without advancement in societal value/political maturity is surely a death sentence for any society. That’s a good point, ivan - advancement in technology without advancement in societal value/political maturity is surely a death sentence for any society.

]]> By: ivan http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-279017 ivan Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:40:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-279017 I also wonder whether it is possible for any civilization to achieve the more advanced levels before annihilating themselves from existence. Possible, but quite improbable. Sent from my mobile using FeedM8 I also wonder whether it is possible for any civilization to achieve the more advanced levels before annihilating themselves from existence. Possible, but quite improbable.

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]]> By: L.B. Jeffries http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-278410 L.B. Jeffries Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:44:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-278410 Olaf Stapledon - Star Maker We'll be lucky if we last the billions of years it takes to get to any of these stages. Olaf Stapledon - Star Maker

We’ll be lucky if we last the billions of years it takes to get to any of these stages.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-278197 ted Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:15:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-278197 How can he breathe with his head sticking out like that? How can he breathe with his head sticking out like that?

]]> By: Johnald_Chaffinch http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-278103 Johnald_Chaffinch Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:13:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-278103 *Carl Saga_n_ also 'harnessing the energy equivalent to that of a blackhole' is'nt really saying anything because as far as i've read - they can conceivably be any size and therefore contain even the smallest amount of info/energy. *Carl Saga_n_

also ‘harnessing the energy equivalent to that of a blackhole’ is’nt really saying anything because as far as i’ve read - they can conceivably be any size and therefore contain even the smallest amount of info/energy.

]]> By: Vonskippy http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-277871 Vonskippy Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:58:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-277871 I find it puzzling that authors like Kaku can easily assume that civilizations can and will master energy in every larger quantities (i.e. planetary, solar system, galactic levels) yet can't imagine that the physics of the universe as we understood them since the early 20th century just might not be the whole picture, and therefore they may indeed be a way around the speed of light limit. There certainly is an almost endless precedence on "laws of nature" we just knew were an absolute only to have them turn into myth and alchemy as science progressed over time. I find it puzzling that authors like Kaku can easily assume that civilizations can and will master energy in every larger quantities (i.e. planetary, solar system, galactic levels) yet can’t imagine that the physics of the universe as we understood them since the early 20th century just might not be the whole picture, and therefore they may indeed be a way around the speed of light limit.

There certainly is an almost endless precedence on “laws of nature” we just knew were an absolute only to have them turn into myth and alchemy as science progressed over time.

]]> By: Carruthers http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-277847 Carruthers Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:29:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/05/advanced-civilizations-and-mastery-of-galactic-forms-of-energy/#comment-277847 Fascinating, as Spock would say... Sorry, but the Heikenwaelder version seems to be a poor, colorized version of the original, and doesn't seem to illuminate the scientific article or the subject in any way. The concept is compelling though, and makes sense. We can't do any more than the power we possess affords. That works as an existential tenet or a modus operandi. Food for thought, not just on the planetary, etc. level but on the personal level - as a way to live your life. Get more power!!! Fascinating, as Spock would say…

Sorry, but the Heikenwaelder version seems to be a poor, colorized version of the original, and doesn’t seem to illuminate the scientific article or the subject in any way.

The concept is compelling though, and makes sense. We can’t do any more than the power we possess affords. That works as an existential tenet or a modus operandi. Food for thought, not just on the planetary, etc. level but on the personal level - as a way to live your life.

Get more power!!!

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