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1. Carruthers
   November 6th, 2007 at 1:29 am

   Fascinating, as Spock would say…

   Sorry, but the Heikenwaelder version seems to be a poor, colorized version of the original, and doesn’t seem to illuminate the scientific article or the subject in any way.

   The concept is compelling though, and makes sense. We can’t do any more than the power we possess affords. That works as an existential tenet or a modus operandi. Food for thought, not just on the planetary, etc. level but on the personal level - as a way to live your life.

   Get more power!!!

2. Vonskippy
   November 6th, 2007 at 1:58 am

   I find it puzzling that authors like Kaku can easily assume that civilizations can and will master energy in every larger quantities (i.e. planetary, solar system, galactic levels) yet can’t imagine that the physics of the universe as we understood them since the early 20th century just might not be the whole picture, and therefore they may indeed be a way around the speed of light limit.

   There certainly is an almost endless precedence on “laws of nature” we just knew were an absolute only to have them turn into myth and alchemy as science progressed over time.

3. Johnald_Chaffinch
   November 6th, 2007 at 5:13 am

   *Carl Saga_n_

   also ‘harnessing the energy equivalent to that of a blackhole’ is’nt really saying anything because as far as i’ve read - they can conceivably be any size and therefore contain even the smallest amount of info/energy.

4. ted
   November 6th, 2007 at 6:15 am

   How can he breathe with his head sticking out like that?

5. L.B. Jeffries
   November 6th, 2007 at 8:44 am

   Olaf Stapledon - Star Maker

   We’ll be lucky if we last the billions of years it takes to get to any of these stages.

6. ivan
   November 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pm

   I also wonder whether it is possible for any civilization to achieve the more advanced levels before annihilating themselves from existence. Possible, but quite improbable.

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7. Alex
   November 7th, 2007 at 2:16 am

   That’s a good point, ivan - advancement in technology without advancement in societal value/political maturity is surely a death sentence for any society.

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