Comments on: Dumbledore Pride T-Shirt http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:22:00 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-261703 ted Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:29:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-261703 No probs, Alex. It just threw me off. I didn't see that "moderating" comment like before. As for this post, I left out Captain Ahab's name. Oops. No probs, Alex. It just threw me off. I didn't see that "moderating" comment like before.

As for this post, I left out Captain Ahab's name. Oops.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-261302 Alex Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:15:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-261302 @ted - sorry about the filter! It's a built-in Wordpress function that works pretty well in trapping nonsense comments, but every now and then got a valid comment put into moderation. I try to clear the moderation queue several times a day (less the past couple of days due to the fire business). @ted - sorry about the filter! It's a built-in Wordpress function that works pretty well in trapping nonsense comments, but every now and then got a valid comment put into moderation.

I try to clear the moderation queue several times a day (less the past couple of days due to the fire business).

]]> By: Q http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-261139 Q Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:47:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-261139 Now I am going through every character in every book I ever read wondering was that one gay -was that one gay? Now I am going through every character in every book I ever read wondering was that one gay -was that one gay?

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-261013 ted Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:26:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-261013 Man, this filter business. So the original comment DID go through. "wat r u talking about ted? j.k rowling is a great writer, and ur stereotyping gays!! and u not having an inkling about dumbledore being gay doesn’t really say much, as u dont seem that smart" Thanks for your insight, alexa. I'm devastated that I don't appear that smart to you, of course, but I'll try to live on. How am I stereotyping gays? By assuming that not every relationship between two (fictional, of course) people of the same gender is sexual? I just didn't get that from any of the books, and if the allusions were there (as some people say, NOW, after the announcement), they were too subtle for me. Not that we need to be hit over the head with sledgehammers, but it really wasn't that obvious. Why is JK Rowling not great? Well, that's a subject for another book. She's not a bad author, but she's not "great". She tends to waste pages on useless stuff in the middle, then pack things in towards the end. I say Captain was gay - he was chasing after that big Moby Dick. Man, this filter business. So the original comment DID go through.

"wat r u talking about ted?
j.k rowling is a great writer, and ur stereotyping gays!!
and u not having an inkling about dumbledore being gay doesn’t really say much, as u dont seem that smart"

Thanks for your insight, alexa. I'm devastated that I don't appear that smart to you, of course, but I'll try to live on.

How am I stereotyping gays? By assuming that not every relationship between two (fictional, of course) people of the same gender is sexual? I just didn't get that from any of the books, and if the allusions were there (as some people say, NOW, after the announcement), they were too subtle for me. Not that we need to be hit over the head with sledgehammers, but it really wasn't that obvious.

Why is JK Rowling not great? Well, that's a subject for another book. She's not a bad author, but she's not "great". She tends to waste pages on useless stuff in the middle, then pack things in towards the end.

I say Captain was gay - he was chasing after that big Moby Dick.

]]> By: Chris http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-260780 Chris Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:06:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-260780 I'm a man without any concerns for sexual inuendos, especially gay inuendos. Qualify me basic, I'm totally not on the bashing side, more on the WGAS side, everybody is free. When I read the books, it really did not cross my mind : you have good wizards, dark wizards, good turning bad, etc, like the force thing in Star Wars. I didn't feel there was more to understand. Anyway, he's gay now. Whatever. Good story. Now I wonder : is Yoda gay? ;) I'm a man without any concerns for sexual inuendos, especially gay inuendos. Qualify me basic, I'm totally not on the bashing side, more on the WGAS side, everybody is free. When I read the books, it really did not cross my mind : you have good wizards, dark wizards, good turning bad, etc, like the force thing in Star Wars. I didn't feel there was more to understand. Anyway, he's gay now. Whatever. Good story.

Now I wonder : is Yoda gay? ;)

]]> By: Armadiller http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-260724 Armadiller Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:50:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-260724 I don't know about you, Ted but I got *more* than an inkling, at least in Book 7. And I know a lot of people who said the same thing (though we just thought we were being pervy initially--turns out we were right). If she'd come out and said this after Book 6, I'd be going WTF right with you (purple cloaks, high-heeled boots and love of knitting patterns aside) but there were anvils throughout Book 7. I wasn't shocked that he was gay; I was shocked (and pleased) that she said it out loud. I don't know about you, Ted but I got *more* than an inkling, at least in Book 7. And I know a lot of people who said the same thing (though we just thought we were being pervy initially--turns out we were right).

If she'd come out and said this after Book 6, I'd be going WTF right with you (purple cloaks, high-heeled boots and love of knitting patterns aside) but there were anvils throughout Book 7. I wasn't shocked that he was gay; I was shocked (and pleased) that she said it out loud.

]]> By: alexa http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-260369 alexa Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:11:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-260369 wat r u talking about ted? j.k rowling is a great writer, and ur stereotyping gays!! and u not having an inkling about dumbledore being gay doesn't really say much, as u dont seem that smart wat r u talking about ted?
j.k rowling is a great writer, and ur stereotyping gays!!
and u not having an inkling about dumbledore being gay doesn't really say much, as u dont seem that smart

]]> By: Perceive http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-260169 Perceive Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:13:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-260169 I must be one of the very few people on Earth to get Rowling's message in the book, and not from her meeting with fans. It was perfectly clear (perfectly queer?) to me that Dumbledore was gay in book 7. He was passionately in love with the then handsome Grindelwald. In fact, that bit of unrequited love was foil for another in the book: that of Snape and Lily Potter. In Dumbledore's case, his love of someone so unscrupulous made Dumbledore forsake all the good things he stood for. For Snape, his love of Lily inspired him to be a far better person. Those were the two most poignant centerpieces of the book, both largely told in flashbacks when the people involved were dead. Dumbledore basically gave up on romantic love after that, and focused on redeeming himself. Thus, he never had any reason to say he's gay. By the same token, Snape never said he was in love with Lily Potter, or anybody else, but he didn't need to. I must be one of the very few people on Earth to get Rowling's message in the book, and not from her meeting with fans. It was perfectly clear (perfectly queer?) to me that Dumbledore was gay in book 7. He was passionately in love with the then handsome Grindelwald. In fact, that bit of unrequited love was foil for another in the book: that of Snape and Lily Potter. In Dumbledore's case, his love of someone so unscrupulous made Dumbledore forsake all the good things he stood for. For Snape, his love of Lily inspired him to be a far better person. Those were the two most poignant centerpieces of the book, both largely told in flashbacks when the people involved were dead.

Dumbledore basically gave up on romantic love after that, and focused on redeeming himself. Thus, he never had any reason to say he's gay. By the same token, Snape never said he was in love with Lily Potter, or anybody else, but he didn't need to.

]]> By: Michael Parkatti http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-260088 Michael Parkatti Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:39:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-260088 This whole story is pretty ridiculous, I mean it's just totally inconsequential to make some wizard gay after the fact. Why don't we just assume that more classic characters are gay, like the Merlin from The Old Man and the Sea? http://www.humblenarrator.com/2007/10/23/hemingways-estate-admits-giant-merlin-from-the-old-man-and-the-sea-is-gay/ This whole story is pretty ridiculous, I mean it's just totally inconsequential to make some wizard gay after the fact. Why don't we just assume that more classic characters are gay, like the Merlin from The Old Man and the Sea?

http://www.humblenarrator.com/2007/10/23/hemingways-estate-admits-gian t-merlin-from-the-old-man-and-the-sea-is-gay/

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-259919 Alex Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:22:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-259919 @aware: I think it means "Who gives a sh*t" @aware: I think it means "Who gives a sh*t"

]]> By: Sid Morrison http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-259631 Sid Morrison Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:54:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-259631 Oh man, those are funny! But how long before Rowling or her publishers sue to stop the one with Dumbledore's name on it? Oh man, those are funny! But how long before Rowling or her publishers sue to stop the one with Dumbledore's name on it?

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-259557 ted Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:53:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-259557 Oops, my comment got deleted. Darn filters! And it was really witty, too. I love the Dumbledore's Army one. Perfectly illustrates my comment in the the original one. If Rowlings really had him in mind as a gay character, she sure didn't include it in the story. I never once got even an inkling that he could be involved in a relationship like that, and I thought the first SpiderMan movie was heavily homoerotic. Get ready for the Harry Potter/ Brokeback Mountain mashups - wait, I think we already have a few. I guess this just further goes to show how poor a writer Rowlings is, if everybody in the world missed her point about this character. Oops, my comment got deleted. Darn filters! And it was really witty, too.

I love the Dumbledore's Army one. Perfectly illustrates my comment in the the original one.

If Rowlings really had him in mind as a gay character, she sure didn't include it in the story. I never once got even an inkling that he could be involved in a relationship like that, and I thought the first SpiderMan movie was heavily homoerotic. Get ready for the Harry Potter/ Brokeback Mountain mashups - wait, I think we already have a few.

I guess this just further goes to show how poor a writer Rowlings is, if everybody in the world missed her point about this character.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-259551 ted Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:45:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-259551 I love the "don't ask, don't tell". It perfectly illustrates my comment in the original article. In JK Rowling's universe, the only good gay wizard is a dead gay wizard. Never, ever got even a sense that she writing him as a gay character (and I thought the first SpiderMan movie was heavily homoerotic). This indicates that maybe she was an even worse writer than people think, if the entire world missed her point. I love the "don't ask, don't tell". It perfectly illustrates my comment in the original article. In JK Rowling's universe, the only good gay wizard is a dead gay wizard.

Never, ever got even a sense that she writing him as a gay character (and I thought the first SpiderMan movie was heavily homoerotic). This indicates that maybe she was an even worse writer than people think, if the entire world missed her point.

]]> By: aware http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-259521 aware Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:11:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-259521 WGAS = ? WGAS = ?

]]> By: John J. http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-259272 John J. Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:43:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/23/dumbledore-pride-t-shirt/#comment-259272 Strike while the iron is hot. Or: WGAS? Strike while the iron is hot. Or: WGAS?

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