Comments on: Pirate Lore: 7 Myths and Trrrrruths About Pirates! http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/ The Neat Side of the Web Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:58:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: 76 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-1875942 76 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:39:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-1875942 not piarate lore not piarate lore

]]> By: mung http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-668268 mung Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:39:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-668268 RE: ivan Ye be dead wrong me bucko. You're thinking of privateers which were scum in service to various monarchies and used as a patsy. Pirates answered to none but themselves and their crewmates. The Cap'n was even elected by popular vote and could be voted out at any time if considered incompetent. And I'm not referring to mutiny which is what happened on mercahnt and navy ships when underpaid and overworked sailors got fed up and decided to give the heirachy what they deserve. Do your homework and quit spreading lies ye scurvy dog. RE: ivan
Ye be dead wrong me bucko. You're thinking of privateers which were scum in service to various monarchies and used as a patsy. Pirates answered to none but themselves and their crewmates. The Cap'n was even elected by popular vote and could be voted out at any time if considered incompetent. And I'm not referring to mutiny which is what happened on mercahnt and navy ships when underpaid and overworked sailors got fed up and decided to give the heirachy what they deserve. Do your homework and quit spreading lies ye scurvy dog.

]]> By: mung http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-668264 mung Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:24:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-668264 RE: seriously You're right mate. Early pirate flags were a white flag dyed red which signified that surrender was expected or blood would be shed. The French dubbed this "Le Joli Rouge" or "the pretty red" as you said. The name caught on and when the skull and crossbones came into use he became the Jolly Roger. As for the vicious reputation that pirates were given, well, most merchant ships upon seeing pirates surrendered immediately without the slightest struggle. Upon returning home they made up tall tales of the alledged atrocities they faced in order to avoid being called cowards, kind of like a guy telling his friends he got beat up buy six guys instead of one. This suited pirates just fine since it facillitated the process of plundering. Pirates were given a bad rap. They were simply free spirits that were sick of the system. Sick of watching the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. They were the forerunners of democracy. Read up on them and speak out in their defence. Give them the honor that they deserve. Edward "Blackbeard" Teach's only wish wasn't to be rich, but to be remembered. RE: seriously
You're right mate. Early pirate flags were a white flag dyed red which signified that surrender was expected or blood would be shed. The French dubbed this "Le Joli Rouge" or "the pretty red" as you said. The name caught on and when the skull and crossbones came into use he became the Jolly Roger.
As for the vicious reputation that pirates were given, well, most merchant ships upon seeing pirates surrendered immediately without the slightest struggle. Upon returning home they made up tall tales of the alledged atrocities they faced in order to avoid being called cowards, kind of like a guy telling his friends he got beat up buy six guys instead of one. This suited pirates just fine since it facillitated the process of plundering.
Pirates were given a bad rap. They were simply free spirits that were sick of the system. Sick of watching the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. They were the forerunners of democracy. Read up on them and speak out in their defence. Give them the honor that they deserve. Edward "Blackbeard" Teach's only wish wasn't to be rich, but to be remembered.

]]> By: Ajan http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-554072 Ajan Fri, 16 May 2008 12:55:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-554072 @ Ivan So, we can also assume that Bin Laden is a puppet of Bush who would help him to get some cookin oil in Iraq?? @ Ivan
So, we can also assume that Bin Laden is a puppet of Bush who would help him to get some cookin oil in Iraq??

]]> By: ivan http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-345026 ivan Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:59:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-345026 a good, but tiny start to demystifying pirates. They were paid mercenaries for the English and possibly others. I wouldn't be surprised if they were an unofficial part of the Royal Navy, much like paramilitaries in Colombia. They would steal gold and silver from the Spanish, who killed and enslaved natives to get it. There were safe ports in the English colonies, so the pirates could hide when the Spanish came after them. I don't see any romance to pirates. Returning to the comparison of the paramilitaries, I wouldn't think of bunch of mercenaries that go around doing the dirty work for their master something to romanticize. a good, but tiny start to demystifying pirates. They were paid mercenaries for the English and possibly others. I wouldn't be surprised if they were an unofficial part of the Royal Navy, much like paramilitaries in Colombia. They would steal gold and silver from the Spanish, who killed and enslaved natives to get it. There were safe ports in the English colonies, so the pirates could hide when the Spanish came after them. I don't see any romance to pirates. Returning to the comparison of the paramilitaries, I wouldn't think of bunch of mercenaries that go around doing the dirty work for their master something to romanticize.

]]> By: Seriously http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-335252 Seriously Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:37:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-335252 quote[the term jolly roger likely stems from the fact that pirates enjoyed taking part in rape, and a “roger” in old english was sometimes meant as “fucker” so “jolly roger” was a “happy fucker”]quote Don't make stuff up. "Jolly Roger" comes from the French "joli rouge" (meaning "pretty red"), a reference to the red flags. It could also just be a reference to the grinning skull, or, as the article says, a corruption of the name of the pirate Ali Raja. quote[the term jolly roger likely stems from the fact that pirates enjoyed taking part in rape, and a “roger” in old english was sometimes meant as “fucker” so “jolly roger” was a “happy fucker”]quote

Don't make stuff up. "Jolly Roger" comes from the French "joli rouge" (meaning "pretty red"), a reference to the red flags. It could also just be a reference to the grinning skull, or, as the article says, a corruption of the name of the pirate Ali Raja.

]]> By: Tyler K http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-328559 Tyler K Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:49:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-328559 I think Half Bottom L his AO a little too much there, Chris. I think Half Bottom L his AO a little too much there,
Chris.

]]> By: drummerforpeace http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-326917 drummerforpeace Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:27:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-326917 pastafarianism heaven has weed forests right? pastafarianism heaven has weed forests right?

]]> By: Sigg3 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-317031 Sigg3 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:10:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-317031 Interesting that the article fails to mention that most pirates practiced homosexuality by rank, and that women were not allowed on board whatsoever. Interesting that the article fails to mention that most pirates practiced homosexuality by rank, and that women were not allowed on board whatsoever.

]]> By: Lindsay http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-313515 Lindsay Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:56:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-313515 "If at any time you meet with a prudent Woman, that Man that offers to meddle with her, without her Consent, shall suffer Death." Wait... I thought... "meddling" with women was what pirates did best? "If at any time you meet with a prudent Woman, that Man that offers to meddle with her, without her Consent, shall suffer Death."

Wait... I thought... "meddling" with women was what pirates did best?

]]> By: Jolly Bloger http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-313054 Jolly Bloger Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:44:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-313054 Ah, I always love to see pirate blogging. Check out the Jolly Bloger every Wednesday for pirate news and classic (true!) pirate histories. www.jollybloger.blogspot.com Ah, I always love to see pirate blogging. Check out the Jolly Bloger every Wednesday for pirate news and classic (true!) pirate histories.
http://www.jollybloger.blogspot.com

]]> By: Cate http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-301001 Cate Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:35:55 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-301001 Actually, 300 was a fictionalization of a real story. Frank Miller took an actual historical event and added some stuff to it, and then they made a movie from that. So, yes, yes it did happen. The movie, and graphic novels, weren't entirely accurate, but there really was a battle between the Persian army and 300 Spartans led by King Leonidus. Actually, 300 was a fictionalization of a real story. Frank Miller took an actual historical event and added some stuff to it, and then they made a movie from that.
So, yes, yes it did happen. The movie, and graphic novels, weren't entirely accurate, but there really was a battle between the Persian army and 300 Spartans led by King Leonidus.

]]> By: Best homes http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-280022 Best homes Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:52:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-280022 I think that image of pirate we have now is far from real one. Writers just made it romantic and this image is unlikely to change in our minds. I think that image of pirate we have now is far from real one. Writers just made it romantic and this image is unlikely to change in our minds.

]]> By: daathian http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-269159 daathian Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:17:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-269159 Interesting article but it mainly focuses on the British pirates. I'm guessing there were a lot of Spanish, French, Portuguese and other pirates that did things a lot differently, and thats only in Europe. There are probably a lot more pirates around the world that used different methods and seeing as they didn't leave many records its hard to tell whether the myths are true or not. Interesting article but it mainly focuses on the British pirates. I'm guessing there were a lot of Spanish, French, Portuguese and other pirates that did things a lot differently, and thats only in Europe. There are probably a lot more pirates around the world that used different methods and seeing as they didn't leave many records its hard to tell whether the myths are true or not.

]]> By: Santos http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-262780 Santos Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:50:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-262780 Raja is an indian word for king, not arabic. Raja is an indian word for king, not arabic.

]]> By: Jason http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260842 Jason Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:19:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260842 This is a lame article. This is a lame article.

]]> By: Chris http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260791 Chris Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:37:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260791 @Mark: 300 was based on a graphic novel by Frank Miller wich is totaly fiction.. @Mark:

300 was based on a graphic novel by Frank Miller wich is totaly fiction..

]]> By: Sebek http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260788 Sebek Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:24:40 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260788 the term jolly roger likely stems from the fact that pirates enjoyed taking part in rape, and a "roger" in old english was sometimes meant as "fucker" so "jolly roger" was a "happy fucker" hence the name Roger the Shrubber, in Monty Python and the Holy Grail the term jolly roger likely stems from the fact that pirates enjoyed taking part in rape, and a "roger" in old english was sometimes meant as "fucker" so "jolly roger" was a "happy fucker"

hence the name Roger the Shrubber, in Monty Python and the Holy Grail

]]> By: Mark http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260764 Mark Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:46:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260764 "Now that I think about it, they didn’t mention the Spartan habit of gang raping captured armies in ‘300? either." Too bad they didn't mention the fact that most Spartans were Bi, and would have sex with their fellow soldiers in order to create a stronger bond between each other. "Now that I think about it, they didn’t mention the Spartan habit of gang raping captured armies in ‘300? either."

Too bad they didn't mention the fact that most Spartans were Bi, and would have sex with their fellow soldiers in order to create a stronger bond between each other.

]]> By: BLONDEBEARD http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260710 BLONDEBEARD Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:31:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260710 "bathroom reader" LOL "bathroom reader" LOL

]]> By: Jiminy Rickets http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260645 Jiminy Rickets Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:24:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260645 Pirates are awesome. At PiratesWanted.com, they buried a real treasure chest worth $250,000 and they're giving it away. A pretty cool idea! Pirates are awesome. At PiratesWanted.com, they buried a real treasure chest worth $250,000 and they're giving it away.

A pretty cool idea!

]]> By: Monster http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260159 Monster Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:58:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260159 Thank you for bringing to my attention the painting above, "The Capture of the Pirate Blackbeard". It's incredible and I can't wait to own a print of it! Thank you for bringing to my attention the painting above, "The Capture of the Pirate Blackbeard". It's incredible and I can't wait to own a print of it!

]]> By: Paula http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-260082 Paula Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:25:40 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-260082 YEAH!! i really liked this one!! uhu! YEAH!! i really liked this one!! uhu!

]]> By: Malik Al-Bahr :P http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-259664 Malik Al-Bahr :P Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:20:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-259664 --8<-- Ali Raja, the Arabic words for "King of the Sea." --8<-- *Bzzt*! As an Arab I can tell you that "Raja" is not an arabic word (if I'm not mistaken it's Hindi), and "Ali" is just a name (literally means high). If you want the Arabic words for "King of the Sea." it is "Malik Al-Bahr" (Malik:King, Al:The, Bahr: Sea). --8<--
Ali Raja, the Arabic words for "King of the Sea."
--8<--

*Bzzt*!

As an Arab I can tell you that "Raja" is not an arabic word (if I'm not mistaken it's Hindi), and "Ali" is just a name (literally means high).

If you want the Arabic words for "King of the Sea." it is "Malik Al-Bahr" (Malik:King, Al:The, Bahr: Sea).

]]> By: L.B. Jeffries http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-258836 L.B. Jeffries Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:49:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-258836 They left out the part of when a pirate ship raided someone there was a decent chance they would rape anyone on-board. That includes men. In fact, it mainly focused on the men. Now that I think about it, they didn't mention the Spartan habit of gang raping captured armies in '300' either. Good times! They left out the part of when a pirate ship raided someone there was a decent chance they would rape anyone on-board. That includes men. In fact, it mainly focused on the men.

Now that I think about it, they didn't mention the Spartan habit of gang raping captured armies in '300' either.

Good times!

]]> By: phyreblade http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-258726 phyreblade Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:52:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-258726 And this is why Ninjas pwn pirates. They don't need any of these silly rules and regulations. They would rather die than run away or fail a mission, they don't need to be coerced or threatened into doing their job, and they can do whatever they need to get the job done. Pure Pwnage. And this is why Ninjas pwn pirates. They don't need any of these silly rules and regulations. They would rather die than run away or fail a mission, they don't need to be coerced or threatened into doing their job, and they can do whatever they need to get the job done. Pure Pwnage.

]]> By: Andewdoane http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-258704 Andewdoane Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:16:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-258704 I'm not satisfied with those answers. Just because walking the plank or boarding a ship by force didn't happen all of the time doesn't mean it didn't happen some of the time. Even if something only happened a few, memorable times, it's not a myth. That's like saying "most websites don't post articles about pirates. Thus, if someone told you that you saw an article about pirates on Neatorama, they were lying." I'm not satisfied with those answers. Just because walking the plank or boarding a ship by force didn't happen all of the time doesn't mean it didn't happen some of the time. Even if something only happened a few, memorable times, it's not a myth.

That's like saying "most websites don't post articles about pirates. Thus, if someone told you that you saw an article about pirates on Neatorama, they were lying."

]]> By: Chris http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-258673 Chris Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:42:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/22/pirate-lore-7-myths-and-trrrrruths-about-pirates/#comment-258673 Half Bottom? LMAO! Not worth a good ninja. Half Bottom? LMAO!

Not worth a good ninja.

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