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32 comments to "Blue Angels Over San Francisco Bay: How Low Can You Go?"
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RumorsDaily
October 16th, 2007 at
1:58 pm
When I’ve seen pictures of that effect in the past, I’ve heard that it’s what happens when a plane passes the speed of sound (which is also what creates the sonic boom). I don’t know if this is accurate, it’s just what I’ve read/heard in the past.
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L
October 16th, 2007 at
2:45 pm
Cool, but definitely fake. I have been there every year and they don’t go nearly that low, and they don’t exceed the sound barrier during the show.
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NORAN
October 16th, 2007 at
2:50 pm
been there for fleet week and seen them practice before 9/11. i saw them do daring things throughout the city, including close to the water. i cannot speak for this photo. watching them that week was amazing- and i heard several sonic booms then. i had not heard them since i was i a child–grew up near a nike missle base.
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Cluck
October 16th, 2007 at
3:02 pm
That is the moment the aircraft crossed the sound barrier (explaination with this photo: http://www.aerofiles.com/boom2.jpg) but I would have to agree that that is a fake photo. Such a move even by the best trained puts too great a risk to the public.
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Paul
October 16th, 2007 at
3:20 pm
There’s no way this could be real.
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BGG
October 16th, 2007 at
3:24 pm
I was certain this was a photoshop job at first (for the same reason as Cluck) but I searched and found examples of them doing this over water with boats near the area. Other pictures I found did not look photoshopped, they just weren’t that good.
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Geekazoid
October 16th, 2007 at
3:28 pm
Could be real, could be fake, don’t know for sure. One thing I do know is that there was a bit of controversy over the Blue Angels being in Fleet Week at all, some San Fran supervisor did not want them there because he felt they posed a safety risk to people on the ground and around the area. After that kind of unwanted attention, I highly doubt the Blue Angels would risk doing anything like this; to them it may be totally safe and as risk free as it can be but that doesn’t mean it isn’t any less dangerous than other maneuvers, and impressions are everything my friends.
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Darrell Cadwallader
October 16th, 2007 at
3:32 pm
Invariable? Er, uh, don’t you mean inevitable?
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Sniperman
October 16th, 2007 at
3:35 pm
i saw the video of this, and the video look real.
although it did not create a sonic boom, would have shattered a lot of windows if it did. it did however create that vapor cone because it was flying about 25-50 ft above the water. -
Alex
October 16th, 2007 at
3:50 pm
Erh, yes! Thanks Darrell Cadwallader - my brain wasn’t working properly earlier today. No, scratch that, it hasn’t been working properly for years.
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Jesse
October 16th, 2007 at
4:20 pm
It’s not photoshopped, nor is it a sonic boom. It is a vapor formation that happens when jets fly close to the surface of the water.
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ted
October 16th, 2007 at
4:29 pm
Nike has a missile base?
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K
October 16th, 2007 at
4:43 pm
Wankers.
What a total fucking nuisance that is. Dangerous, irresponsible and a complete waste of time.
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CS
October 16th, 2007 at
5:14 pm
It’s not fake, I’ve seen numerous photos of this effect. And they DO fly that low - I know it seems crazy but I’ve watched them in person. The vapor cone effect CAN occur when breaking the sound barrier but ALSO occurs at lower speeds:
http://wilk4.com/misc/soundbreak.htm
I love how ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN people are that this is fake when they really don’t know for sure.
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Kristian Twombly
October 16th, 2007 at
6:58 pm
Not fake and not breaking the sound barrier. The Blue Angels routinely fy close to the speed of sound very low as it generates a wake and small rooster tail over the water. What you see is the Prandtl-Glauert condensation cloud, something that you can see on any airplane at any altitude. It helps greatly if it is humid out, and if there is a fairly significant pressure differential, so you are likely to see it from military aircraft in a steep turn or at a high rate of speed, or from your local airliner coming in to land (with the flaps down). It also has a tendency to “flash” - appearing and disappearing very quickly.
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Eric Monse
October 16th, 2007 at
7:08 pm
Yeah, I’m guessing it’s not breaking the sound barrier, though it looks like it. The wake is pretty cool.
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Chris A
October 16th, 2007 at
7:33 pm
Kristian Twombly said what I woulda said if I wasn’t being responsible and working and got here sooner.
It’s probably a camera trick, but I don’t think the plane should be flying that close to the boats. Other than that, the picture is 100% possible and doesn’t have to be a fake.
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SlappyInSF
October 16th, 2007 at
8:41 pm
Not fake. The phrase I’ve heard used is a rooster tail, saw it from Aquatic Park near the Maritime Museum a couple of years ago, it is not sonic boom, it may be the condensation cloud, the way it was explained to me was the exhaust from the jet pushing the water down and making it spray back up. It wasn’t supersonic when I saw them do it, in fact it seemed to be moving rather slowly.
Cheers!
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Rich
October 16th, 2007 at
9:54 pm
Your tax dollars at work…
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Chris A
October 16th, 2007 at
10:34 pm
My tax dollars are giving me and millions of others great entertainment. I support it!
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Cluck
October 16th, 2007 at
11:48 pm
That is not a rooster tail, not even close to being one. Here is an example of a rooster tail: http://www.teshio.com/JetBoat/images/Beismeyer_Rooster_tail.jpg
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Chris
October 17th, 2007 at
5:30 am
Double debate combo:
- it’s photoshopped!
- it’s not neat!
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Nacho
October 17th, 2007 at
5:42 am
I think it is real… F18 Hornet Creates Vapor Cone (VIDEO)
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Mitch
October 17th, 2007 at
8:02 am
The first thing I was reminded of was when Richard
Ashby flew a military plane under a gondola cable
in Italy and killed 20 people when he miscalculated
slightly and his plane cut the cable.A cool stunt at the expense of human life.
If the pilot of this plane lost control, even
a little bit, people in boats would be killed.It isn’t worth it.
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NORAN
October 17th, 2007 at
1:16 pm
in the 50’s and 60′ there were missile bases throughout the country guarding key cities and vital areas–these missiles were called nike. they were capable of being armed with nuclear warheads. i live in northwest indiana.
the base 10 miles from me, did have nuclear capability. guarded the gary/east chicago steel works–vital to the country, plus the oil refrineries. also covered chicago.
if you know what you are looking for, you can find remains for 2-3 of them in chicago public parks. when the us closed the bases, they kept one open as a museum–in san fran–in the marin head lands—. took the tour , my hubby a geek, amazing how many were around us. mine finally going to me torn down for a subdivision–young people never believe when i tell them what it was, but we old timers still use it, when we give direction–it isn’t tofar past the old nike base. -
L
October 17th, 2007 at
1:26 pm
Maybe you didn’t read my comment. I was THERE. they DO NOT get this close to the deck. If they did, I’d be thrilled, but this photo is ridiculous. It shows the Angel clearly below the top of a tug boat, even if this angel was twice as high as in the photo, they STILL didn’t get that low. There were coast guard boats in the channel that were taller than that tug. The issue is not whether the vapor is real, it may be, but the angels did not get this low, period.
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greg
October 17th, 2007 at
2:09 pm
looks like its pretty figured out, i think its real but not a sonic boom, when planes fly from about mach .95-1.05 control surfaces so i doubt they would fly so low with pretty much no control. im pretty confident its real though. those things are amazing.
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Fleet Week Witness
October 17th, 2007 at
2:10 pm
I was at aquatic park for this years fleet week Blue Angels exhibition, the photo is real. I’ve seen the blue angels all over the country and this maneuver is a standard part of their routine. That being said, I think this was the lowest I’d ever seen it performed. Here’s a video of the same pass as the photo.
http://jumpcut.com/view?id=C009AF72755211DC9F89000423CF037A&u_id=&them =1
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Mike Warot
October 17th, 2007 at
2:50 pm
Oh yeah… looks real to me… the compression shock from the wing causes the water in the air to condense momentarily until the atmosphere rushes back in… and makes a cloud trailing the plane.
Here’s another example from the web: http://wohba.com/2005/06/visible-sound-barrier.html
–Mike–
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T
October 20th, 2007 at
3:37 am
Fake. The real thing was tried once before. This is what happened….
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Johnkdkdkdkdkdkdkd
December 4th, 2007 at
11:05 pm
Haha reading the responses from everyone on here makes me laugh so hard. There is one person on here that is right, i am a chemical engineer and an USAF pilot. This is not Photo shopped, It is not fake, It is not anything to do with breaking the sound barrier or the resulting sonic boom, it is approx 25ft above the water, it is not during the show, and there is an extremely simple explanation for THIS particular vapor cone. I, however, will not explain it because a very simple google search and less than 10 minutes of reading can inform anyone, who takes the time to read, how and why this phenomenon occurs. I ran across this forum while collecting pictures for a presentation and couldn’t help but make a comment. Use your resources folks, thats why we have them.
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Nike Dunks
May 20th, 2008 at
4:50 am
Cool, but definitely fake. I have been there every year and they don’t go nearly that low, and they don’t exceed the sound barrier during the show.
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